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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    Gonzo, that is an absolutely amazing article. Thanks for that. Wow! I totally understand the income tax scam now. I really appreciate that article. Seriously, thanks.

    ...but it is really talking about that USA, not Canada. I have found that Canadian law quotes are much harder to find than American ones.
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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

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    So then, based on that post, every person who uses fiat currency is a Corporation?

    So then how can a living man use fiat dollars, and still not be a corporation?
    Fiat money to a living breathing man is death by slow strangulation. Avoid them entirely. You may be forced to accept them but you commit fraud when you pass them on to another.

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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    Quote Originally Posted by Awoke View Post
    Gonzo, that is an absolutely amazing article. Thanks for that. Wow! I totally understand the income tax scam now. I really appreciate that article. Seriously, thanks.

    ...but it is really talking about that USA, not Canada. I have found that Canadian law quotes are much harder to find than American ones.
    You're welcome.

    About the best I can do for you regarding Canada, of the top of my head, is to refer you the Bank of Canada Act... I posted a picture of a pertinent part. The picture points out that you can "endorse" (or non-endorse, if you make/record a demand for "lawful money") however you like, although they will try to push their "uniform system".

    Here's something else that may shed some light on Canada:

    http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/3...quirements.pdf

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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    OK so I just read the other article you linked, and it seemingly contradicts the first one.

    So in the first one, it makes it plain and clear that people are obligated to pay income tax because they are voluntarily (Unknowingly) using private credit, via exchanging FRNs.

    However the other link (This one: http://freedom-school.com/money/nod.htm) expressly states that when you have a "Pay Cheque" given to you in return for your labour, you are receiving "Worthless Securities", and therefore are not obligated to pay income tax because you are not receiving income.

    What am I missing?
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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    Quote Originally Posted by Awoke View Post
    OK so I just read the other article you linked, and it seemingly contradicts the first one.

    So in the first one, it makes it plain and clear that people are obligated to pay income tax because they are voluntarily (Unknowingly) using private credit, via exchanging FRNs.

    However the other link (This one: http://freedom-school.com/money/nod.htm) expressly states that when you have a "Pay Cheque" given to you in return for your labour, you are receiving "Worthless Securities", and therefore are not obligated to pay income tax because you are not receiving income.

    What am I missing?
    Ok. The income is received (or not) when the check is deposited or CASHED.

    So I suppose a "paycheck" is a worthless security because you never know if your boss has the funds in his account to cover it.

    Anyway, if you "endorse" a paycheck, then you claim to receive "Dollars" as stated on the face of the check, and are presumed to be voluntarily using private credit. If you non-endorse (by putting something like "DEPOSITED FOR CREDIT ON ACCOUNT OR EXCHANGED FOR NON-NEGOTIABLE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES OF FACE VALUE. By: Given Name" or "REDEEMED IN LAWFUL MONEY"), then you are making known your intent to separate yourself from the private credit system, and making a demand for lawful money.

    The idea is to demand lawful money from the initial transaction.

    This whole system was not designed to be clear to the common man... quite the contrary....

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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    Thanks Gonzo.

    One last question I have is the statment he stamps onto the cheques: "DEPOSITED FOR CREDIT ON ACCOUNT OR EXCHANGED FOR NON-NEGOTIABLE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES OF FACE VALUE"

    This is saying two damning things:

    1) Will accept Credit on account (Private credit, that is IRS taxable)
    2) Will accept FRNs of face value (Private credit, that is IRS taxable)

    So how is that a Non-endorsement?
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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    Is everyone who operates as a "freeman", "sovereign" either....

    A. A homesteader living off grid with barterable skills?

    B. Someone who has set up a corporation to function through?

    C. Both?
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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    Quote Originally Posted by Awoke View Post
    Thanks Gonzo.

    One last question I have is the statment he stamps onto the cheques: "DEPOSITED FOR CREDIT ON ACCOUNT OR EXCHANGED FOR NON-NEGOTIABLE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES OF FACE VALUE"

    This is saying two damning things:

    1) Will accept Credit on account (Private credit, that is IRS taxable)
    2) Will accept FRNs of face value (Private credit, that is IRS taxable)

    So how is that a Non-endorsement?
    "non-negotiable federal reserve notes" are not the same as FRNs, because they have ALREADY been negotiated into a higher form of currency (USNs) by the demand.

    and credit as it is normally thought of is not taxed... like a credit limit on a credit card.

    It is a NON-ENDORSEMENT because you are making the check into a bill of exchange in which you receive NON-NEGOTIABLE FRN's of face value, and not "dollars" (which are regular old FRNs that are endorsed by your failure to make and record your demand for "lawful money").


    make any sense?

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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertytree View Post
    Is everyone who operates as a "freeman", "sovereign" either....

    A. A homesteader living off grid with barterable skills?

    B. Someone who has set up a corporation to function through?

    C. Both?
    if you "know who you are" and your relationship to "your" (not really) birth certificate and things of that nature, you can function at arm's length and keep yourself separated somewhat.

    That being said, I'd still love to get off the grid and be a homesteader with barterable skills for many reasons.

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    Re: A Lawyer Disbarred For Digging Too Deeply

    I've always found this fascinating and a worthy goal. I seem though to hit major roadblocks trying to fully understand it all, wishing there was a book for dummies on the topic. I've read all the threads here and other places and am still as much in the dark as I ever was. Maybe I'm just too damn dumb to be truly free of their system? But I still dig what you guys have accomplished even though when the day comes I don't think they'll be worried what our status is and it's just a matter if we bow down or fight, leaving us all in the same boat.
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