High Ranking US Major General Exposes September 11 High

[Serpo]

911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/compare/jetcrashdebris.html

If the forces are enough to break steel, and hardened aluminum into tiny microscopic fragmented pieces, you can bet skin, and bone is going to be no contest by comparison. The forces involved are so immense it's hard to fully comprehend. Add fire to the mix, and there's very little/nothing left to find after the fact.

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[joboo]

Yeah sure - you're so damn smart. It's a good thing that Mohommad Atta's passport survived the impact in virtual pristine condition. Obviously, it was fabricated out of fire-resistent high-tensile paper and plastic.

Moron.

I'm talking out the missile scenario, and you're off comparing something totally unrelated to form a conclusion again. This is precisely the example of the type thinking I'm talking about.

What does the planted passport have to do with the pentagon?

[vacuum]

His experience, from what he described, is taking arial footage of landscapes for intelligence. He says says he's visual....well so am I, so are a lot of people, in fact most are.

He could be the most rational person in the world, but if he is forming conclusions with false information the whole thing is moot.

You can't read all kinds of data into an equation based on blind assumptions you think could/should be true.

What you are saying here is true, but it's pointing to the fundamental flaw both you and the guy in the video above appear to have. I don't believe you are a troll or a shill, but rather I think that you use an incompatible cognitive process from most others here.

From my observations, both you and the guy in the video above generally try to move toward a rational, proven, consensus about all the issues we discuss, including 911. That's why you are concerned with the image we as a group present to everyone else, and also why you attempt to de-emphasize things which are not considered proven.

The vast majority of people who support these rational consensuses are in the mainstream, with conspiracy theorists generally in the alternative. You (and the guy in the video above) however seem to be a growing group who are bringing the rational consensus to the alternative arena.

As I have shown, there is no such thing as a rational consensus. A rational consensus is a deductive reasoning paradigm where everyone must first hold common premises upon which deductive reasoning is applied to arrive at the rational consensus. I propose you are literally using a different cognitive process from the rest of us here, one which I have argued is inferior and flawed.

I wrote two threads describing these differences:
Confession: Inside the Mind of a Conspiracy Theorist
Thesis: Beyond the Scientific Method - Shifting into the New Age

I encourage everyone to consider the possibility that the person they are trying to talk to may be a deducivist/subscriber and literally use a different cognitive process than they use, in addition to the possibility of being a shill or troll. Obviously almost everyone you talk to in your daily life is neither a shill or troll...what they all have in common is rather the cognitive process they use. The need for a rational consensus.

[joboo]

^ That all sounds good, and all but you have to look at the evidence objectively regardless.

There are some users here that refuse to do it because it goes against what they have been subconsciously trained to believe, or simply just want to believe.

Most of these individuals are faith based religious types.

[mamboni]

I'm talking out the missile scenario, and you're off comparing something totally unrelated to form a conclusion again. This is precisely the example of the type thinking I'm talking about.

What does the planted passport have to do with the pentagon?

Oh excuse me, I didn't realize that missiles carry passengers to be disintegrated on impact, not planes. My bad. /sarc

[Serpo]

I'm talking out the missile scenario, and you're off comparing something totally unrelated to form a conclusion again. This is precisely the example of the type thinking I'm talking about.

What does the planted passport have to do with the pentagon?

It is related as you are saying everything was blown to tiny pieces just like this passport was meant too but didnt.

[Serpo]

^ That all sounds good, and all but you have to look at the evidence objectively regardless.

There are some users here that refuse to do it because it goes against what they have been subconsciously trained to believe, or simply just want to believe.

Most of these individuals are faith based religious types.

And how on earth would you know that

[joboo]

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Downloaded pictures are great and all, but how many passengers do you think you're going to find from that?

[mamboni]

It is related as you are saying everything was blown to tiny pieces just like this passport was meant too but didnt.

Are you kidding? Do you really believe this ass believes the total bullshit he spews here with impunity? Don't you see, a plane traveling at 600 mph isn't a missile at all - it's just a plane! After all, it has wings!

What transparent bullshit artistry. Another thread getting crapped all over by the resident ADL/SPLC interloper.

[joboo]

And how on earth would you know that

It's an observation that holds true. There is a distinct tendency, and direct correlation. Suppression of physical evidence over a belief system.