Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[Uncle Salty]

So Cliven is wondering if blacks are better off not being property of slave owners, who had the right to buy and sell them, rape, beat them?

Hmmm. Dude is a big thinker.

[Tumbleweed]

If he happens to mention Jews were running the slave business and owned the majority of the slaves on plantations things will really go to hell for him.

[Ares]

So Cliven is wondering if blacks are better off not being property of slave owners, who had the right to buy and sell them, rape, beat them?

Hmmm. Dude is a big thinker.

You seem to have a habit of not actually reading the article before posting. I highly recommend going back and reading Cebu's post again. It seems the New York times didn't quote him correctly. He didn't say they were better off as slaves. Even recounts how 20 years ago during the Watts riots he was escorted by a black man out of there and calls him his guardian angel. So doesn't appear he's a racist. It's the media we all know and hate that twisted his words and is trying to paint him as a racist to cover up the crimes of the BLM. We should of all seen that coming.

[Ares]

Bundy communist edited video to make him look like a racist exposed..

Link to video:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D4poA3YcRaY

[madfranks]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/04/f...be-you-and-me/

[Ares]

African-American Bodyguard Would Take Bullet For Clive Bundy



Link to video: http://youtu.be/vu_YKgGRFZ8

Let's not fall for the divide that the media is trying to distract us from the real issue here. They are playing the same tired game of distraction and division. Recognize it for what it is.

[Horn]

Is making quite the stink, looks like a harsh reality address to Obama.

"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do."And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" he asked. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton.

And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/polit...cause-20140424

[Tumbleweed]

Pastor Manning on Cliven Bundy. This is good :-)

[mick silver]

Attacking Bundy Won't Solve Larger Problem of Fedgov Perception

By Staff Report - April 24, 2014 Bundy Standoff Is A Fox News Costume Drama ... One thing about that mangy posse of anti-government crackpots camped out at Cliven Bundy's place in the Nevada desert: Most don't know a thing about cattle ranching. See, it's calving season across most of the country ... While the BLM was wise not to confront the mob, the current triumphalism among far-right zealots can't be seen as anything but ominous. One wonders, however, how the armies of April will react to a Las Vegas TV station's revelation that much of Bundy's personal saga is make-believe. – The National MemoDominant Social Theme: This Bundy fellow is a crackpot.Free-Market Analysis: There's been a lot of pushback regarding Cliven Bundy and most recently in the article above, Bundy comes in for direct criticism as a serial liar.Yet it is not difficult to understand the disapproval people feel when confronted with what seems to be another heavy-handed action by US authorities. We keep in mind the following when it comes to US government actions in the 20th and 21st century:

• Both the federal income tax and Federal Reserve were implemented under false pretenses. Voters were assured that the income tax would affect only a tiny percentage of the very wealthy. And Congress was assured that the Fed would be bound by a stringent gold-to-bill ratio. Neither of these assurances remains in force today.
• The management of the US economy by appointed government and quasi-government officials has left the US with a national debt of US$200 TRILLION as well as a much reduced middle class, 50 million on food stamps and cities and infrastructure in virtual ruin due to invasive regulations and treaties that have pushed employment off shore.
• The US serially has been involved with ever-increasing frequency in overt and covert wars that benefit an extremely small power elite while reducing prosperity for hundreds of millions and ruining the lives caught up in the combat.
• The military-industrial complex has been joined by an Intel-industrial complex (of some 16 separate security agencies) and a penal-industrial complex that when observed in aggregate terrorizes tens of millions, incarcerates millions at a time and spies literally on billions through the use of modern communications technology.
• As has been pointed out recently, the US more resembles an oligarchy in its current configuration than the Jeffersonian republic of its beginnings.
• Over time, in various instances, fedgov has revealed its authoritarian impulses more nakedly. Operation Gladio reportedly saw US Intel determinedly whip-up violent anti-government sentiment in Europe in order to increase tensions between Europe and Moscow. Operation Paperclip saw the US import, wholesale, Hitler's Nazi brain trust to staff NASA. Today, US civil policing is awash with incidents of brutality and corruption, and the trend seems to be toward an expansion of aggression rather than a diminution.
• Fedgov reportedly owed Native Americans hundreds of billions in compensation for lands and resources. But a recently settled court case will only provide the tribes with a pittance of what they likely were due. At the same time, fedgov land administration has grown more onerous – with endangered species providing a rationale for Draconian confiscations and regulatory abuses.

These are just a few points and more could surely be enumerated. One does not have to oppose the federal system itself to disapprove of its ruinous actions.here are "good" people in federal government and surely there are elements within the political system generally that mean well. But fedgov is awash with depreciating paper assets and increased tax revenue. The result has been an ever more aggressive expansion of federal power.Power corrupts ad absolute power corrupts absolutely. US fedgov today is in many ways a corrupted institution. This is obvious and much commented on.It is also the reason that many people instinctively support Bundy in his confrontation with BMS. It probably has less to do with the specifics of the case than with a general sentiment that fedgov is out of control and that many of its actions benefit an "oligarchical" few at the expense of the many.The article excerpted above is only one of many now appearing that attack Bundy and point out that his actions are "unlawful" whereas the actions of his peers in cooperating with BLM eschew unlawfulness. Here's more:No rancher worthy of the name is going to run off leaving his cows to fend for themselves while he fights somebody else's battles. Particularly not some deadbeat who refuses to pay his grazing fees, and who claims that the same laws that apply to every other rancher in the United States don't apply to him.... See, it's partly a costume drama Fox News is helping this con-man stage. Although my own little operation is more of a hobby than a business, I do try not to lose money. However, many of my Perry County, Arkansas friends and neighbors are cattle ranchers for real.It's damned hard making money on cows, but nobody around here imagines they can graze cattle in the Ouachita National Forest for nothing. Every single one pays for his own land, pays property taxes, pays the water bill and pays for any pasture he rents—all things Cliven Bundy takes for free from the U.S. government while styling himself a rugged individualist.... No way could Bundy or anybody like him afford to buy the vast acreage he's grazing for free. Many westerners only think they'd like to see the feds sell off their extensive properties in states like Nevada, where the U.S. government owns fully 87 percent of the land. But they might feel differently after the likes of Ted Turner, the Koch brothers and various international corporations bought up the range, cross-fenced it, and posted "No Trespassing" signs everywhere.See, it's a form of welfare the BLM oversees, but it helps sustain a way of life Americans are nostalgic about. The various "Sovereign Citizen" groups and armed militia types playing soldier in the desert, however, are something else.Again, we're not sure of the reason for the upsurge of anti-Bundy articles, though we have our suspicions. But what we are sure of is that pro-Bundy sentiment has more to do with anti-Fed sentiment than Bundy's own story.It is perhaps the endless and increasingly bold dissemination of dominant social themes that rubs people the wrong way. The Internet itself has increasingly revealed the lies authority tells to defend itself and to mislead. It is one reason we cover the memes of the elite, those globalists who stand behind the US government and its propaganda.Whether it is the phony war on terror, "climate change," or the continued Wall Street Party that the power elite is determined to keep throwing, it is important to understand the mechanisms of control and the rationale behind them.In the case of the Wall Street Party, one may have expected the stock market to have moved down long ago, and yet it still continues to defy gravity and may do so for months or even years.One can make a good deal of money by understanding elite memes; one can also educate oneself in order to better protect one's wealth, family security and even community prosperity.Those who wish to defend the BLM and to damn Bundy are probably faced with a difficult task. It is the history of the US fedgov that people are reacting to when they feel sympathy for Bundy – Bundy's actions and history may have little to do with it. Conclusion

Bundy is merely a metaphor in this case – a convenient vessel for larger, problematic actions. - See more at: http://www.thedailybell.com/news-ana....inYsBzrx.dpuf

[Bigjon]

Bundy is merely a metaphor in this case – a convenient vessel for larger, problematic actions. - See more at: http://www.thedailybell.com/news-ana....inYsBzrx.dpuf

I gave them one star, If I could I would have given a go to hell with a minus star.

Nothing about changing the terms of the contract and the fact that the federal govt does NOT own the land.

http://www.defendruralamerica.com/DRA/Jurisdiction.html

http://www.defendruralamerica.com/DRA/Public_Lands.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mddeW_1FxEs