150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

[Joshua01]

It sounds like to me that these guys are federal officers, and believed they had probable cause, and thus they have an implicit "probable cause" warrant (i.e., the federal courts always have supported them in these cases, and thus they can expect support in the near future) to do what they deem proper. Those words caught my attention too, but now that you question it, it sounds like wordplay.

So that means they have a license to 'probable cause' the shit out of anyone at any time !

[Jewboo]

Jewboo, I have not heard of a "federal probably cause arrest warrant" before. What is that? What I learned growing up (watching Perry Mason - ok, me and 100 million other americans got our legal education from ole Perry) was that a judge has to hear the rational from the sheriff (or one of his deputies), or, an official with the township police, as to the primae facae case against the target. This is called a "warrant". But the phrase, "federal probable cause arrest warrant", it suggests to me that this is something less than an honest to goodness warrant (requiring evidence of a primae facae nature), and, I wonder does it even require review, agreement, and a signature by their county judge. Or does it merely need to be signed by a supervisor with the FBI or some official with whatever Fed group comes in guns-a-blazing?...

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I'm a few years younger than you JL and we are both geezers on Social Security Retirement. 2016 is nothing like what we were taught to believe. Where to begin? Federal Reserve isn't federal and has no reserves. USA drones murder people from the sky without trial. IRS can instantly freeze our bank account on a whim. No limits on anonymous Congressional "contributions" according to the Supreme Court. Federal Debt Limit automatically raised now. Nobody voted for this. None of this is Constitutional and yet this is our Reality now.

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Lobbyists literally write the legislation and our so-called "elected representatives" admit to not even being able to read them before signing. Only naive people still believe there is a Constitution and the Rule Of Law. I finally stopped being naive only a couple of years ago.

My takeaway from this Oregon thingie is that the FBI is even more capable then I imagined. Helicopters with zoom video cameras. Listening to every word spoken on cell phones. Must have been at least a hundred agents planning and manning that Oregon road trap. They even provided us public with a Youtube movie of how it went down.

Lesson learned: When a cop points a gun at you do exactly what they say. They have radios. They have backup. They can use a Drone and bomb you from the sky if need be.

The two Bundy boys peacefully surrendered, did not resist arrest, and are now sipping coffee with their lawyers...

[Cebu_4_2]

Why did he get out of the truck?

[Jewboo]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploa...y-brothers.jpg
Didn't resist arrest...now sipping coffee with their lawyers

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...g-standoff.jpg
Sped away from same traffic stop then crashed into roadblock...now dead

[JohnQPublic]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploa...y-brothers.jpg
Didn't resist arrest...now sipping coffee with their lawyers

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...g-standoff.jpg
Sped away from same traffic stop then crashed into roadblock...now dead

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post813404

[palani]

Helicopters with zoom video cameras.

What evidence do you have that a helicopter took the images and videos shown?

Are you sure that those images did not come from a satellite 150 miles above the surface of the earth?

[Shami-Amourae]

What evidence do you have that a helicopter took the images and videos shown?

Are you sure that those images did not come from a satellite 150 miles above the surface of the earth?

That's possible, but it was implied. ImmaCanin said she black helicopters flying over her home, which is near where it happened.

[Shami-Amourae]

It does look more and more like Finicum was murdered.

[Joshua01]

It does look more and more like Finicum was murdered.

I never underestimate the ability of the government to lie then prove it.

Edit: if you look closely the zoomed in video clearly shows this guy was shot in the back

[Ares]

It does look more and more like Finicum was murdered.

That's what the video looked like to me. I slowed it down, zoomed it in, and went back and forward with it. It does look like he's holding his side so I really do think he was holding his side due to a bullet wound. The autopsy report will say for sure.