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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    I exchanged emails with Bill Benson and found out he was a Dane. I chided him for mispelling his name as a proper Dane uses "sen" instead of "son". Now all good Scandinavians know we have to keep these name spellings straight so we know who to believe. Benson = Norsk, Bensen = Dansk, Bensson = Svensk.

    I believe he and Red Beckman went around the country tracking down the 16th amendment.
    Yep, he wrote a book about it and called it "The Law That Never Was"
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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    I exchanged emails with Bill Benson and found out he was a Dane. I chided him for mispelling his name as a proper Dane uses "sen" instead of "son". Now all good Scandinavians know we have to keep these name spellings straight so we know who to believe. Benson = Norsk, Bensen = Dansk, Bensson = Svensk.

    I believe he and Red Beckman went around the country tracking down the 16th amendment.
    I think there are still Red Beckman videos on youtube. I am Dane, my grandmother and grandfather were both Jensens.

    My late cousin married a Norwegian, Farstveet from North Dakota. Another Danish cousin married an Ostergard
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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    Yep, Anna seems to post a lot of stuff that can't be found in the online record.

    I have read that in order to really read the real record one has to go to one of these regional law library's, where they have all the books from the time they were first published. Sort of like once published they don't disappear. Unless someone replaces the book with a new one.
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    There are multiple Congressional Records-- Congressional Record of the United States Congress and United States Congressional Record and Congressional Record of the United States of America in Congress Assembled and so on. Keep looking and you will find it.
    The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
    “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a freeState”
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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    she can't just provide the link?

    the only references I can find are references to her stuff and people who have filed court documents referencing her statement but no actual congressional citation.
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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

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    Re: United States Citizen - dead entity

    There are multiple Congressional Records-- Congressional Record of the United States Congress and United States Congressional Record and Congressional Record of the United States of America in Congress Assembled and so on. Keep looking and you will find it.
    I would respond back, that's not what I asked for. I'm telling you your citation is inaccurate. You made the citation, and the citation does not exist in the source you specified.
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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    I would respond back, that's not what I asked for. I'm telling you your citation is inaccurate. You made the citation, and the citation does not exist in the source you specified.
    I was just thinking that and insist that she provide me a link to one of the other records she claims exist.

    In the meantime I have found several web pages with the following, but no identity of the author:

    On December 6, 1865, the 14th Amendment was proclaimed as ratified (even though it never properly was, see below). The 14th Amendment, which is private Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical Trust Law, constitutes a constructive, cestui que trust, a public charitable trust (PCT) that was expressly designed to bring every corporate franchise artificial person called a "citizen of the United States" into an inseparable merging with the government until the two are united (with power held by the government, not the people). A cestui que trust is fundamentally different from a regular trust, which is express [clear, definite, explicit] in nature and consists of a contractual indenture involving three (3) parties: Grantor (Creator or Trustor), Trustee, and Beneficiaries. In an express trust, legal ownership is transferred by written contract between Grantor and Trustee in which the Grantor surrenders ownership of property to the legal person, the Trust, to be managed by the Trustee on behalf of those who are to benefit from the arrangement, the Beneficiaries. A cestui que trust, on the other hand, differs from an express trust in several crucial ways:

    a. It is not formed by express contract, i.e. overt agreement expressed in writing, but by legal construction, i.e. fiat.


    b. A cestui que trust has no Grantor, but, being a constructive trust created by operation of law, i.e. by make-believe, has only co-trustees and co-beneficiaries. The co-trustees are the parties with the duties for managing property for the "public good," i.e. for the benefit of those designated as co-beneficiaries.
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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    You make your own record.

    Face it. There are lots of dead people out there and they really wrote a lot. They acted when they shouldn't have and didn't act when they should have. Are you bound by any of them?

    How to make a record? LEGAL NOTICE. http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...t=LEGAL+NOTICE

    That entire thread is about people making their record.

    How do you make your record with respect to the XIV amendment? https://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwsllink.html

    Go to volume 15 .. page 223 ... and read ch 249.. It is a short act but requires some interpretation. It concerns the rights of American citizens in foreign states. What most don't comprehend is that the foreign states they are permitting expatriation from are only states that they create as they cannot actually speak for other foreign states. The next day they enter the XIV amendment on their record and have created a foreign state expressly for you to get the h...e... double toothpicks out of.

    Just cite this act in a public notice and give a notary address for responses to be directed to. Record same at the county level.

    Now the State department will tell you that you must expatriate at some U.S. consulate in some foreign country and that this is the ONLY way to expatriate. They could be right but there is no need to expatriate from something that never existed and unless you have some document from a U.S. judge stating that your status is set in stone you make your notice NUNC PRO TUNC then what never was did not ever exist.

    p.s. The system is more afraid of due process from YOU than you should be concerned of due process from THEM.

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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
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    There are multiple Congressional Records-- Congressional Record of the United States Congress and United States Congressional Record and Congressional Record of the United States of America in Congress Assembled and so on. Keep looking and you will find it.
    When we look at what the lieyers have done is it any wonder that they don't want us to know. Everything they do is a lie. They write laws in code meant to deceive us, where it sounds acceptable when interpreted in its English grammar context, but when translated using their code it means something quite different.

    So, to me the idea that the record has been scrubbed or buried should be no surprise to us. As that is the record they have left us, one of deceit and treachery.

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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    I exchanged emails with Bill Benson and found out he was a Dane. I chided him for mispelling his name as a proper Dane uses "sen" instead of "son". Now all good Scandinavians know we have to keep these name spellings straight so we know who to believe. Benson = Norsk, Bensen = Dansk, Bensson = Svensk.

    I believe he and Red Beckman went around the country tracking down the 16th amendment.
    The edit button went awol, so here I am replying to my little bit of Norwegian trivia.
    The current crop of Norwegians all use bokmal which is Danish and spell their names like the Danes. Fathers name with "sen" added or the patronymic name system.

    All good Norwegians who came to America in the 18 hundreds had been under Danish rule and no self-respecting Norwegian wanted to be misidentified as being a Dane so they used "son". That is the version my mother taught me.

    I'll reply here instead of adding this off topic item below:

    The only people who use old Norse today are the Icelanders and the Faroe islands and they use "son".

    I would guess that mom's explanation did not take into account that the western Norwegians were still probably using Norsk instead of the Danish derived bokmal.

    Swedes have alway used the possessive s or PAPA'sson.

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    Re: Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    The edit button went awol, so here I am replying to my little bit of Norwegian trivia.
    The current crop of Norwegians all use bokmal which is Danish and spell their names like the Danes. Fathers name with "sen" added or the patronymic name system.

    All good Norwegians who came to America in the 18 hundreds had been under Danish rule and no self-respecting Norwegian wanted to by misidentified as being a Dane so they used "son". That is the version my mother taught me.
    Ben is not a Scandinavian name though. Benson is probably British in origin, as you have the British cigarette brand Benson & Hedges. He or his ancestors may have Americanized the old Danish surname like Berndtsen or Bendtsen into Benson.

    Norway was in union with Sweden during most of the 1800's btw... So sorry to say your mothers version wasn't completely correct. However could be that Norway de facto was more independent during the Swedish union than during Danish rule, that people preferred to abandon the old Danish spellings of surnames, the slave names.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_...den_and_Norway

    Funny how Sweden was awarded Norway from Denmark in 1814, because Sweden had been on the sides of Britain-Russia during the Napoleonic wars. While Denmark-Norway was on Napoleons side. Especially since the new King of Sweden was the French General Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, who actually bought the crown of Sweden in 1814 with warloot from the Napoleonic wars where he made his fortune. That guy was the Lucky Larry Silverstein of his time I suppose. If he had stayed with Napoleon and France until Waterloo, he would have probably lost everything. Still this usurpers family has the throne of Sweden.

    Interesting stuff. I didn't know of these circumstances regarding the creation of Swedish Norwegian union.

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