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Here is exhibit F
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Thanks!

Now consider this:
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MIchael
July 16, 2011 at 6:24 AM

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Dennis seems to believe what I posted above is all BS and let me know in an email. The Constitution for The United States of America at Article 1 Section 7 cls 2&3 state the following:

Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large on their journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the bill, it shall be sent, together with the objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a law. But in all such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the persons voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journal of each House respectively. If any bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a law.

Every order, resolution, or vote to which the concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the same shall take effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the rules and limitations prescribed in the case of a bill.

Notice in the above quote it states “if he approve he shall sign it [the bill], but if not he shall return it.” If he signs a bill it is NOT returned but it becomes law. Read the Pocket Veto case.

http://supreme.justia.com/us/279/655/case.html that discusses how bills are returned.

Dennis has misread the Pocket Veto case and the Constitution believing Truman had to return the bill signed before Congress adjourned in order for it to be law; not true. If he signed a bill within ten days of receiving it, whether Congress is adjourned or not, it becomes law. The only reason for returning a bill is so that Congress can reconsider it, the president having objected to it. In the case of a bill being returned Congress must be in session, but in the case of him signing and approving the bill Congress does not have to be in session for it to become law.
What is happening here is, in my opinion, Dennis is stating in his documents that if the president had signed the bill into law, as he believed it should have been done, with Congress in session, it would have become law. Does this mean Dennis would have recognized it as law? Since it was not signed the way Dennis believes, it did not become law. Unfortunately, Dennis’ belief is not supported in the Constitution or the Pocket Veto case linked above.

This whole argument is moot anyway. The laws in question only pertain to the appearance of reality. It is my opinion the issue should never be given the light of day in Dennis docs or anywhere else. They are enacted in the United States for the United States only, not The United States of America. If I am in error, I welcome any corrections that can be brought to my attention.