He's the CEO of his own firm and travels a lot to teach a software method he co-invented called Scrum, so he communicates only by email. He's in Paris yesterday and today. You can see his schedule here:
http://scrumtraininginstitute.com/about/jeff-sutherland (scroll to bottom). It may take him a day or two to get back to you. When I started, I sent the materials on a Thurs and he didn't get to it till the following Wed.
At 01:20 PM 12/14/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Wow fantastic information thank you very much
I sent in the release form for Dr Jeff, seems he is very difficult to get a hold of, any ideas how to contact him for an appointment or is it just via fax only. The contact phone number no longer works,
Thanks
Jim B
From: Mark Lipsman [ mailto:mark@lipsman.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:30 AM
To: James Brake
Subject: Re: do you still have the rife
Jim,
It's sold, but I put the following together to address the people who have contacted me about it:
Having used the GB4000, I have to say there are better machines for less money. This is old technology--it requires a lot of button pushing, and the software is rudimentary. Also, the units are noisy--each one has two small fans in it, so when both are running, it's like the noise from an older PC. Also, the GB makes a beep every time it starts and ends a frequency or group, which gets to be really annoying. I had to use earplugs before I modified mine with silent fans and a volume control for the beep--it was the only way to make it bearable--but you need some technical ability to do that. Personally, although some people like the GB, I would never recommend it.
If you want to buy a pad machine, the F100 series (
http://atelierrobin.net/index.php) is much better designed, the software is vastly better, and they're less expensive. If you feel you need more power, you can get a 10-watt amp for $200 at
http://www.pachealthonline.com/accessories.htm . You can also buy an F125 or F165 combo with the amp from that vendor, but it's cheaper to buy them separately from the manufacturers.
You can take a look at how the F100 software works here:
http://atelierrobin.net/docs/userGuides/3.0/guide.html
You can also download it from his site and see what it looks like.
The F100 models are popular, and I think the reason you don't see used ones for sale much is that people like them and hold onto them. Also, they haven't been around as long as the GB, so the latter has greater market share.
The only difference among the F100 models is the number of output channels:
F125: "2 internal channels that can run frequencies from 0 HZ to: A:1.5 MHZ, B:100 KHZ"
F165: "3 internal channels that can run freqiencies from 0 HZ to: A:3.9 MHZ, B:3.9 MHZ, C:50 MHZ"
F170: "6 internal channels that can run freqiencies from 0 HZ to: A:3.9 MHZ, B:3.9 MHZ, C:50 MHZ, D:50 MHZ, E: 50MHZ, F:3.9MHZ"
Jeff Garff (mfr. of the GB4000) uses as a sales feature the fact that his is the only one that can run 8 freqs simultaneously, but the fact is, 1) it does that only below 40kHz (above that it runs only 2 simultaneously), and 2), it's unclear whether running freqs simultaneously actually does any good. Jeff G, understandably, says yes; others aren't so sure. Nenah Sylver, in her new 700-page Rife Handbook (p. 362), points out the controversy, quoting Jeff G and referring to "rather consistent success stories from satisfied users" but also the reservations of engineers who doubt that it works ("some laboratory readings do not appear to support the claim").
The main problem with the GB, aside from the noise, is that everything you do is done in the hardware, which becomes repetitive and time-consuming. It also has a lot of limitations--too many to detail here. I had it for only a month and quickly got fed up with it. Personally, I'd forget about the GB (and I have no financial or other interest in any of these machines).
I also have an FSCAN, which is a more sophisticated machine (except for the software and manual, which are amateurish). However, the scanning feature is of limited use, for various reasons, and it adds quite a bit to the cost.
You may find, if you have a serious problem, that a pad unit won't take care of it. You may need a plasma unit or another alternative mentioned below. Bruce Stenulson makes some good ones, with no RF, very reasonable prices, and voluminous (though rather disorganized) info on his site (
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/em6c.htm). He takes calls weekday mornings.
Even Dan Bergman, a proponent of the GB on rifeforum.com, who has posted over 1000 times and has good advice (his wife has Lyme and he has Crohn's), recently bought a MOPA amp and plasma tube to use with the GB and says it's much better than just the GB. (Also a lot more expensive: well over $4k for the complete setup with a new GB. And since most people buy the GB with the SR4 amp, the latter becomes useless with the MOPA and plasma tube.) It also has an RF carrier, which he wanted, but which Bruce Stenulson maintains is unnnecessary and may even be counterproductive ("So from my perspective, statements that RF is 'necessary' reveal a simple lack of understanding of the nature of the magnetic component of the Resonant Radiant Plasma Dynamics.") See these 2 pages on his site:
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/discuss6.htm (this one has a "clouds" background--it may be easier to copy and paste the text into a Word doc to read it.)
http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/es-disc.htm
Bruce's machines are more versatile--besides the plasma, they offer the option to connect a magnetic pulser. He says the mag field appears to be more effective than the electrical one ("Due to the presence of the resonant *magnetic* component of the field radiated from a properly designed Resonant Radiant Plasma system, the plasma resonance created by the EM+ system has no problem or limitations in penetration; Therefore there really is NO NEED for *adding* any extra "RF carriers". Adding RF (either as a fixed frequency, or in the form of a spark gap generated wide spectrum RF chaotic noise component) is actually observed to *REDUCE* the results already being achieved by the EM+ designs- it actually impedes the effectiveness or reduces the body's receptiveness").
His units are well designed, have a lot of options, are reasonably priced (about half the cost of a GB and MOPA amp and of a couple of other plasma machines) and will run either standalone or with a variety of inputs--such as free FreX software on your PC or any of the F100 generators.
Among his units, the model 5 is the least expensive ($1000) and is standalone; i.e., you use only the internal generator and can't use an outside source or program it. Therefore, I wouldn't buy it. The next one, the model 6 ($1600), is his most popular unit and offers the ability to use a variety of inputs and outputs, including a magnetic wand he sells. (You'd also need a bulb; with the mag pulser, it would bring the cost to just over $2k. If you wanted an F125 to run it, that would be another $500.) The model 8 ($2000) has more inputs and outputs, but few people need them. I bought a model 6 but may be selling it without even using it, for reasons I explain below.
Before I go on, I want to point out that the main problem is not the machine but finding the correct frequencies. It can take a lot of time, esp. because the pathogens mutate--and then the frequencies change. The published frequencies are only a starting point. A fellow named Jeff Sutherland, PhD, has been doing distance healing using a type of radionics, but more powerful, for a decade or so and creating a database of frequencies. You don't need a machine--he sends out the frequencies remotely using an ABPA (Advanced Bio-Photon Analyzer) machine, which works at a distance and has no electromagnetic component. He has a good reputation (he posts at rifeforum.com) and an impressive background:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsutherland . His site is frequencyfoundation.com, and you can see an info sheet on what he does at
http://frequencyfoundation.com/forms/photoanalysis.pdf
Also see these blog posts of his:
What Frequency Device Should I Use to Kill Pathogens?
Determining precise frequencies for use with FSCAN or RIFE devices
I tried out this remote technique and was impressed. I had intestinal candida for six months and tried all the herbal stuff--it helped a little but didn't get rid of the problem. He got rid of it in an hour, though other strains returned over a period of weeks (which he also got rid of). He also points out that pathogens typically go through at least 4 and sometimes 7-8 stages, and you have to eliminate each stage. Also, sometimes the viruses hide in the bacteria (e.g., in Lyme), so they all have to be eliminated, and in the right order. He's got a frequency database he's assembled over the years (he sells subscriptions) and can do that.
He charges $200 for an initial consultation: frequencies broadcast once a week or so for a month--so you don't even need a machine. However, that's often not enough to prevent the problem from coming back in the interim, so he'll dedicate a machine for a week for $200. I recommend the latter. If you get good results, you can renew for another week. Also, he's able to control the herx reaction by using frequencies to neutralize proteins created by the destruction of the pathogens. The proteins are apparently what cause the herx.
As a result of what he did, I bought an ABPA machine (used)--though I don't necessarily recommend it to everyone. It will still take quite a bit of work to be able to use it anywhere near as effectively as he does. I bought it after buying an FSCAN and a Stenulson 6CE+ radiant machine, both of which I'll probably be selling. Jeff says he has several radiant machines but that they mostly sit on the shelf, which I can understand. I sort of felt intuitively that something like this had to be possible, because it was too hit or miss the other way for a supposedly sophisticated technology.
That's the rife situation as I've found it so far.
BUT: having gone through all these machines, I then came across something I've tried and found to be the best so far, since it doesn't require figuring out frequencies: the BioDisks and Wayback Water invented by Dan Nelson. You can read about the disks here:
http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/dan-n....html?pID=2811
and about the water here:
http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/dan-n...8.html?pID=409 and other links in the header on the page.
Dan gives seminars--I just attended one in Iowa, and the next ones will be in Michigan and Missouri, in March. You can find details here:
http://nancynotes.us/
There's usually an opportunity for a balancing session with the disks during the seminar days, so you can see how they work before buying (a full set is about the same cost as a rife machine: $2000). You can also try the water.
Another promising approach is Matrix Energetics (
www.matrixenergetics.com), invented by Richard Bartlett, a chiropractor. He's written an excellent book of the same name (and a sequel) and gives seminars, which you can find on his site, along with videos of what he does. It may seem hard to believe, but his success seems unquestioned.
I think the energy approach will soon supplant not only conventional medicine but things like rife that depend on an expensive machine and the correct (and possibly elusive) frequencies.
I should also mention the importance of nutrition. As some alternative health practitioners point out, most people now are sick for any or all of three reasons: nutritional deficiency, toxic overload, and stress.
A vegetarian whole-food diet is important, since animal foods (incl. dairy) are hard to digest and contain a lot of toxins. A raw food diet is probably best, though hard to stick to, esp. if you're not in a warm climate. Macrobiotics is also very good. But those who eat mostly cooked food get too few enzymes, which the body needs for digestion and health. An enzyme supplement, esp. pancreatic enzymes, is important, and I've seen the value of it myself. Same for amino acids and the usual vitamins and minerals. Take a look at Suzanne Somers's latest book, Knockout. This is one of those cases where we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. It looks like another lightweight celebrity vanity project, but it's actually quite substantial and informative. She interviews a number of integrative doctors and elicits a lot of good info.
Another thing I recommend is pancreatic enzymes. I read about them in Suzanne Somers's book Knockout (outstanding book) and found they make a big difference. They stimulate the pancreas to produce 2 cups of juice a day, which is necessary for digestion and also kills pathogens in the digestive tract. I noticed a definite improvement with the candida after starting it, though it didn't get rid of the candida completely. Most people don't get enough enzymes, except for those who eat a raw diet. Some docs consider this the most important factor in preventing/fighting cancer.
Commercial pancreatic supplements are usually made from hog pancreas, but vegetarian ones are available. But any brand is better than nothing to start with. More info at
http://www.myhealthmybody.com/trelli...reatic_Enzymes .
Keep in mind that the quality of holistic practitioners can vary as much as the conventional ones, in addition to personal compatibility.
I'd also suggest a complete blood test and a urine toxic metals test. The blood test will show, for example, if you're low in vitamin D, which many adults are, esp. in northern climates, since we get this from sunlight. It's important for immunity. The toxic metals test (available from directlab.com if your doctor doesn't do alternative) will show your toxic metals load, which can interfere with immunity and healing. You can get rid of heavy metals via chelation, either intravenous or using suppositories (cheaper and easier than going to a doc every week for 6 mos.):
https://www.drvitaminsolutions.com/index.php
Also, if you have mercury fillings, they can seriously degrade immunity and healing and cause numerous problems. Detox alone won't help--they'd need to be removed by a dentist who's set up for it.
Besides Knockout, another good book is You Did What? by Hollie and Patrick Quinn. She had breast cancer at 27, declined to go the conventional route, found a holistic clinic in Oregon that does advanced stuff, and 9 years later is still cancer-free. The place is
www.centrehealing.com , though there are good naturopaths and integrative docs all over the country.
To find an ND:
www.naturopathic.org . Some naturopaths go to a 4-year naturopathic school--those are the ones to see. Others get a degree by mail, which isn't as rigorous.
To find an integrative doc:
http://icimed.com ,
www.acamnet.org ,
www.aaemonline.org
Other holistic docs and practitioners:
www.cancercontrolsociety.com/directory.html
For used machines, besides royalrife.com, you can check rifeforum.com. It's worth querying older listings--sometimes they don't get sold.
Also take a look at ebay and craigslist nationwide. For CL, enter this in the search box on Google: site:craigslist.org nameofmachine . (Some results are listings that have expired and been deleted.)
Finally, if you do buy a machine, you can use escrow.com for the transaction. It's pretty much the only US escrow service that isn't a scam and the only one recommended by eBay, Consumer Reports, Bankrate.com, and the BBB:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/escrow.html
http://www.consumerwebwatch.org/dyna...ey-and-run.cfm
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/adv...20040517b1.asp
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Repor...ation-13132933
Regards,
Mark Lipsman
At 10:56 AM 12/14/2010 -0600, you wrote:
do you still have the db 4000
Jim
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