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    Paedophilia

    Sick sick sick sick sick. uke


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    Charity's anger at proposal to make child porn legal 'to protect children from abusers'

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    A charity has hit out at proposals to legalise child pornography in a bid to cut the number of child sex abuse cases.

    The proposal, by Professor Milton Diamond from the University of Hawaii, follows a study which shows that child sex crimes fell when child pornography was legalised in the Czech Republic.



    Milton Diamond
    http://hawaii.edu/about/awards/images/2009/diamond.jpg

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    Pope’s child porn 'normal' claim sparks outrage among victims

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    In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.

    “In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.

    “It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”

    The Pope said abuse revelations in 2010 reached “an unimaginable dimension” which brought “humiliation” on the Church.



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    Not condemnation, but humiliation. Implying a regret that is was made public. Not regret for committing evil, which the pope claims, no longer exists.

    We are all on the train to crazy town and I would like to get off please.






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    Re: Paedophilia

    I wont even comment on this thread other than God help you if I find you first and know what you did.


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    Re: Paedophilia

    hmmmm.....

    Milton Diamond, eh?


    wonder what tribe....


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    Re: Paedophilia

    What I would like to see legal, would be an "Open hunting season" for these bastards that prey
    on children! Sick bastards.
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    Re: Paedophilia

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman
    What I would like to see legal, would be an "Open hunting season" for these bastards that prey
    on children! Sick bastards.
    Just find a Catholic church, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel.

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    Re: Paedophilia

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe King

    It's only pedo if the law of the land in question says it is. If it was, the police would have surely done something, right? Did they, or didn't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMac

    A charity has hit out at proposals to legalise child pornography in a bid to cut the number of child sex abuse cases.

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    Re: Paedophilia

    Quote Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
    hmmmm.....

    Milton Diamond, eh?


    wonder what tribe....


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    Buddist? :dunno












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    I usually get suspicious when a news article won't post a link to a full statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by DMac
    Pope’s child porn 'normal' claim sparks outrage among victims
    In the context of the speech he seems to be complaining about it increasingly becoming normal.

    In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.
    That's true.
    “In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”
    And he was blaming the church for allowing moral relativism to creep in, and I agree. This evil of moral relativism is destroying us. Look at the German castration thread.

    Not condemnation, but humiliation. Implying a regret that is was made public. Not regret for committing evil, which the pope claims, no longer exists.
    Read the section where he quotes St. Hildegard's vision of the church defile by the sins of the priests. I'm not a fan of Pope B, but I dislike "news" strories taking quotations out of context even more.
    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/be...auguri_en.html
    Excita, Domine, potentiam tuam, et veni: amid the great tribulations to which we have been exposed during the past year, this Advent prayer has frequently been in my mind and on my lips. We had begun the Year for Priests with great joy and, thank God, we were also able to conclude it with great gratitude, despite the fact that it unfolded so differently from the way we had expected. Among us priests and among the lay faithful, especially the young, there was a renewed awareness of what a great gift the Lord has entrusted to us in the priesthood of the Catholic Church. We realized afresh how beautiful it is that human beings are fully authorized to pronounce in God’s name the word of forgiveness, and are thus able to change the world, to change life; we realized how beautiful it is that human beings may utter the words of consecration, through which the Lord draws a part of the world into himself, and so transforms it at one point in its very substance; we realized how beautiful it is to be able, with the Lord’s strength, to be close to people in their joys and sufferings, in the important moments of their lives and in their dark times; how beautiful it is to have as one’s life task not this or that, but simply human life itself – helping people to open themselves to God and to live from God. We were all the more dismayed, then, when in this year of all years and to a degree we could not have imagined, we came to know of abuse of minors committed by priests who twist the sacrament into its antithesis, and under the mantle of the sacred profoundly wound human persons in their childhood, damaging them for a whole lifetime.

    In this context, a vision of Saint Hildegard of Bingen came to my mind, a vision which describes in a shocking way what we have lived through this past year. “In the year of our Lord’s incarnation 1170, I had been lying on my sick-bed for a long time when, fully conscious in body and in mind, I had a vision of a woman of such beauty that the human mind is unable to comprehend. She stretched in height from earth to heaven. Her face shone with exceeding brightness and her gaze was fixed on heaven. She was dressed in a dazzling robe of white silk and draped in a cloak, adorned with stones of great price. On her feet she wore shoes of onyx. But her face was stained with dust, her robe was ripped down the right side, her cloak had lost its sheen of beauty and her shoes had been blackened. And she herself, in a voice loud with sorrow, was calling to the heights of heaven, saying, ‘Hear, heaven, how my face is sullied; mourn, earth, that my robe is torn; tremble, abyss, because my shoes are blackened!’

    And she continued: ‘I lay hidden in the heart of the Father until the Son of Man, who was conceived and born in virginity, poured out his blood. With that same blood as his dowry, he made me his betrothed.

    For my Bridegroom’s wounds remain fresh and open as long as the wounds of men’s sins continue to gape. And Christ’s wounds remain open because of the sins of priests. They tear my robe, since they are violators of the Law, the Gospel and their own priesthood; they darken my cloak by neglecting, in every way, the precepts which they are meant to uphold; my shoes too are blackened, since priests do not keep to the straight paths of justice, which are hard and rugged, or set good examples to those beneath them. Nevertheless, in some of them I find the splendour of truth.’

    And I heard a voice from heaven which said: ‘This image represents the Church. For this reason, O you who see all this and who listen to the word of lament, proclaim it to the priests who are destined to offer guidance and instruction to God’s people and to whom, as to the apostles, it was said: go into all the world and preach the Gospel to the whole creation’ (Mk 16:15)” (Letter to Werner von Kirchheim and his Priestly Community: PL 197, 269ff.).

    In the vision of Saint Hildegard, the face of the Church is stained with dust, and this is how we have seen it. Her garment is torn – by the sins of priests. The way she saw and expressed it is the way we have experienced it this year. We must accept this humiliation as an exhortation to truth and a call to renewal. Only the truth saves. We must ask ourselves what we can do to repair as much as possible the injustice that has occurred. We must ask ourselves what was wrong in our proclamation, in our whole way of living the Christian life, to allow such a thing to happen. We must discover a new resoluteness in faith and in doing good. We must be capable of doing penance. We must be determined to make every possible effort in priestly formation to prevent anything of the kind from happening again. This is also the moment to offer heartfelt thanks to all those who work to help victims and to restore their trust in the Church, their capacity to believe her message. In my meetings with victims of this sin, I have also always found people who, with great dedication, stand alongside those who suffer and have been damaged. This is also the occasion to thank the many good priests who act as channels of the Lord’s goodness in humility and fidelity and, amid the devastations, bear witness to the unforfeited beauty of the priesthood.

    We are well aware of the particular gravity of this sin committed by priests and of our corresponding responsibility. But neither can we remain silent regarding the context of these times in which these events have come to light. There is a market in child pornography that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society. The psychological destruction of children, in which human persons are reduced to articles of merchandise, is a terrifying sign of the times. From Bishops of developing countries I hear again and again how sexual tourism threatens an entire generation and damages its freedom and its human dignity. The Book of Revelation includes among the great sins of Babylon – the symbol of the world’s great irreligious cities – the fact that it trades with bodies and souls and treats them as commodities (cf. Rev 18:13). In this context, the problem of drugs also rears its head, and with increasing force extends its octopus tentacles around the entire world – an eloquent expression of the tyranny of mammon which perverts mankind. No pleasure is ever enough, and the excess of deceiving intoxication becomes a violence that tears whole regions apart – and all this in the name of a fatal misunderstanding of freedom which actually undermines man’s freedom and ultimately destroys it.

    In order to resist these forces, we must turn our attention to their ideological foundations. In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with man and even with children. This, however, was part of a fundamental perversion of the concept of ethos. It was maintained – even within the realm of Catholic theology – that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a “better than” and a “worse than”. Nothing is good or bad in itself. Everything depends on the circumstances and on the end in view. Anything can be good or also bad, depending upon purposes and circumstances. Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist. The effects of such theories are evident today. Against them, Pope John Paul II, in his 1993 Encyclical Letter Veritatis Splendor, indicated with prophetic force in the great rational tradition of Christian ethos the essential and permanent foundations of moral action. Today, attention must be focussed anew on this text as a path in the formation of conscience. It is our responsibility to make these criteria audible and intelligible once more for people today as paths of true humanity, in the context of our paramount concern for mankind.

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    Re: Paedophilia

    pedophilia is one of those rare crimes that if i would king of the world would be immediately dealt with by a .22LR to the back of the head.

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    Re: Paedophilia

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too quick

    Gotta make a example and get creative
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