FBI Investigates Taped Beating By Tennessee Police.

[SLV^GLD]

Drunk is a generalized term. Common sense and experience shows that people who have consumed excessive amounts of alcohol act out in different ways. There's no need to give details about that unless someone here lives in a fishbowl at granny's house. Could this guy be good person, it's possible but not probable. Like i said before, the information is limited, do these cops 4-5 of them? Do they have a history of doing this? If not, then I'll side with them until more information is provided. I will not call them Nazi Pigs, or some other demeaning term trying to incite more hatred towards them. It's low class ghetto dweller behavior.

So, with limited information you will refrain from passing sweeping generalizations that may demean the gang of officers but won't let it stop you from passing sweeping generalizations that most certainly demean the single man being beaten and tazed by said gang of officers... and maintain that you are not being confrontational?

[learn2swim]

So, with limited information you will refrain from passing sweeping generalizations that may demean the gang of officers but won't let it stop you from passing sweeping generalizations that most certainly demean the single man being beaten and tazed by said gang of officers... and maintain that you are not being confrontational?

My aim was to explain where I'm coming from. You don't have to agree. The end....

[learn2swim]

Yes, but none of that justifies stripping a man naked, then laying him ine snow, beating him and tazering him for 20 minutes. (or even one minte)

That's not a matter of opinion, Swim, that's a matter of morality.

Morality is out the window these days. One thing I do know, if I'm tased and they order me to roll on my stomach, I'm doing what I'm told. Do you assume the cops stripped him naked? I'm not sure, it's not a regular procedure that I've ever witnessed. What's the depts taser policy? Is their a limited amount of times a person can be tasered? Tasers are usually employed on people who are non-complaint with police commands. If the person is tasered, and still doesn't follow commands, what are they to do? Shoot them? My main argument that started this who debate off was don't make a final judgement on what you see on tape. The Rodney King incident is a primary example. The media didn't bother explaining what lead to his beating. The only thing they had left was to shoot him. Or, maybe we can create a more liberal policy like if person becomes non-complaint with commands, the police just walk away and let them go. I think the cops made the right choice, so did the jury, and look what happened....

[Santa]

My aim was to explain where I'm coming from. You don't have to agree. The end....

Law is predicated on innocence until guilt is proven, isn't it? These law enforcement goons are beating a man before he's even arrested. Criminal goons are far too often protected by an unaccountably corrupt fascist institution.

[Joe King]

If the person is tasered, and still doesn't follow commands, what are they to do?.

Why couldn't the four of them just pick the guy up and turn him over?

As opposed to standing there yelling at him and getting their jollies by tazing him over and over. The guy even asked what he had done wrong and he wasn't resisting. {resisting means fighting back, not just laying there}

If the police treated people as human beings first, they'd get a lot more respect.

[Cebu_4_2]

Because after they took his cloths off he was nakid so they didn't want to touch him... simple really.

[Joe King]

The "don't want to touch him" thing doesn't hold water because had the guy rolled over to be cuffed, they would have to pick him up. Which would require touching him.
How can you get up on your own while laying face down and hands tied behind your back?


The four of them could have each grabbed a leg or arm and flipped him over in about two seconds.

[midnight rambler]

Law is predicated on innocence until guilt is proven, isn't it? These law enforcement goons are beating a man before he's even arrested. Criminal goons are far too often protected by an unaccountably corrupt fascist institution.

I take it you're not a fan of summary punishment.

[midnight rambler]

If the police treated people as human beings first, they'd get a lot more respect.

I began doing ride-alongs in 1983, and I'm here to tell you based upon my own observations since then* the trend is in the other direction entirely and I see nothing which will abate this trend of treating humans like wild animals in need of immediate, summary correction.

*When I first started doing ride-alongs any prisoner was placed in the front passenger seat and buckled in. When I was with a cop who made an arrest I was the one who got to sit in the back seat - there were no cages in the backs of the cars then. The dept. which I was doing ride-alongs with began putting the partitions in between the front and back in the late '80s. Now that same dept. has bars on the back windows of the car completing the cage effect along with plastic seats, in fact the latest units now have a clear plastic partition between the RR and LR passenger seats. Treat people like wild animals and see how they respond - it's all very predictable.

[Joe King]

That's because they tend to have an "us vs them" attitude.
ie their prejudiced against anyone who's not a cop.