"Among The Truthers", Straus, the Protocols, and the Chutzpah Maneuver

[PatColo]

JD: not sure which argument you're asking about.

I asked JKing one question which he has so far ignored,

Aren't you inferring condemnation towards all GSUS readers who disagree with the Official Zionist Holohoax Narrative? ... while at the same time inferring that you are of sufficient piety yourself to be in a position to condemn all those who you judge to "condemn those who disagree"

and there's an inferred question to JK here, namely "isn't it true that independent holocaust researcher/revisionists today are treated in the same way as JK paints his "Nazi" caricature?", which JK has also ignored so far:

Ironic, that "Nazi" caricature you describe re alleged events in Germany +/- 70 years ago, and how it aptly describes what indisputably happens today in many western zio-kontrolled countries when their citizens dare to think for themselves rather than goose-clapping for Tinkerbell - off to prison kamp they go! [Irving, Rudolf, Zundel, Zundel's defense attorney, etc]

I'd be curious to hear whether JK agrees with the above point, or disagrees & why?

[MAGNES]

Write a book, train people how to mock others, I'll read this carefully later
but this is what it looks like so far. Whose promoting the book ? NYT
best seller, rofl !

Hasabararats everywhere.

[keehah]

Write a book, train people how to mock others, I'll read this carefully later
but this is what it looks like so far. Whose promoting the book ? NYT
best seller, rofl !

Hasabararats everywhere.

Don't forget the author's day job is editorial director of the National Post (Newspaper). The Capstone of Canada's largest media empire (recently bailed out by GoldmanSachs) enabled by loads of debt, destruction after takeover of local news reporting and independent papers and TV by a "a prominent member of Canada's Jewish community, and a vocal supporter for Israel." -wikipedia. Wiki has not mentioned for the last 4 years or so he was also a supporter of Israel's Lukid party.

rabble.ca/news/2009/11/national-post-and-bankruptcy-media-convergence

In the court documents filed as part of the Companies Creditors Arrangement Act proceedings, we learn that the National Post has “had an EBITA loss of $20.3 million, $16.3 million, $13.1 million and $12.7 million, respectively” from 2005-08 and is projected to have had a further loss of $9.3 in the 12 months ending August 31, 2009. In 2001 the Post lost $60 million. Over seven years NP has been bailed out to the tune of $139.1 million.

Its not about 'captialism', its about making (destroying) nations of clay headed slaves.
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However, I've not seen "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" mentioned in a National Newspaper till this book was reviewed.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2021504/

Sometimes Kay’s prejudices get the better of him. Any liberal who comes even into peripheral view is dismissed as “smug,” a distorter of the truth, a peddler of “the man-made global warming myth” or an obnoxious champion of “identity politics” dedicated to the reconstruction or wholesale reinvention “of history according to the viewpoint of women, blacks, gays and other minorities” and so on. He includes John McMurty, “an influential truther who teaches at the University of Guelph,” in his sights. Too long to quote here – and I have to say that I don’t know the rest of McMurty’s work at all – the passage that Kay references concerning the George W. Bush administration, the benefit to the oil sector and the military-industrial complex, the rise and rise of security forces during the last decade, and the benefit to domestic policy of fighting a war, hardly seems a stretch.

The best moments in Kay’s very readable, often captivating journey through the renegade corners of American paranoia lie in his exposition of that pioneering bit of conspiracist bile, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the notoriously anti-Semitic hoax published in 1919 by czarist police and purporting to offer a Jewish plan for world domination, but more so in the personal encounters such as those with Jenkins and in crowd demonstrations.

Realistically though, based on a few reviews I've read (and the title of course) the book does follow what I'd expect is mentioned in one of those protocols. The author is not looking for truth about 9/11, but is about personality charactorization of a few people he has selected.

For some reason, some of the most active people who realize 9/11 story as told by government was incomplete, focus on the worst disinfo to make a case. Like a moth to flame. Like children with their heart in the right place unable to critically think much. And several more aware disinfo peddlers of course.

More of the review, Chutzpa:

Of The Protocols, Kay writes that “it was a lie that people wanted to hear,” and this is the crux of it.

First of he twice crosses (crux in Latin) up the issues to confuse. Previously before this statement he only claimed it was a forgery not a lie. He admits that people want to hear about The Protocols. People do not want to be occulted. I can think of two general reasons to want to hear something: Because something is a pretty lie, or an ugly truth. It is not a pretty lie. To argue so is like claiming victims like being victimized, like claiming your child is just acting like daddy abused him to hurt daddy. Since they are both editorialists in National Newspapers the father child example is valid. And for a third possible option, if anyone knows of a 'pretty truth' in poltics please share it with me.

Middle of paragraph:

Although Kay ultimately pays some attention to the effect of the Web on the truther phenomenon, it is hard not to feel that his emphasis is misplaced, that the character of the stories, rather than their agents, is what should be examined. Today’s Web technology has provided “truthers” a multitude of platforms for similar stories, and unparalleled means for their narrators to convene, if only virtually, and to spread their nonsense. But another fact of the Web is that the truth does, eventually, catch up.

The rest of the paragraph, the author's take away from the book, is pure evil. One of the worst Protocols get reccomended by both these National Newspaper writers. With the Chutzpa to reccomend it in a paragraph that also mentions The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in a National Newspaper. Followed by complaining that the future gentile animals will always have traits being somewhat aware of the crimes of those who rule over them.
(I guess that is what the genetic engineering is for, 1984 and environmental toxins are not enough.)

Their recommendation is: 'TEACH ALL THE CHILDREN THAT WHITE COLLAR CRIME DOES NOT EXIST'

con·spir·a·cy   
1.the act of conspiring.
2.an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

The process by which this happens is called education, and in the book’s third section, Kay makes the case for it, arguing for an anti-conspiracist curriculum to be taught in schools even as he concedes that conspiracism is a “stubborn creed” that will “never entirely go away, even as the passage of years fails to vindicate their theories.”

[PatColo]

"Among The Truthers: A Journey Through America's Growing Conspiracist Underground" by Zio-Tool Jonathan Kay.

check the amazon link above, the book is getting righteously panned in the reader reviews. At this writing:

Customer Reviews

45 Reviews

5 star:
(10) 4 star:
(7) 3 star:
(6) 2 star:
(3) 1 star:
(19)



Average Customer Review
2.7 out of 5 stars (45 customer reviews)

It's nice how amazon starts with the "most helpful reviews" (IE most highly voted), and consequently the 1-star reviews where the reviewer deconstructs the book's nonsense most effectively, are the top-listed.

if you want a laugh, read the 5 star reviews, & notice how those shills conspicuously use JKay's same "pious fraud" MO- ad-hom's & ridicule, in their disingenuous circle-jerk; then read the 1 star reviews by the book's critics, the Truthers, and compare the credibility of their content, focusing on substance rather than character assassinations, it's no contest LOL.

KB did mention consulting with attorneys for possible libel action, but he's basically poor, put out the call for pro-bono work... if someone steps up they'll prolly be a mason there to ensure that the tar job they did on KB, sticks.

[Joe King]

JD: not sure which argument you're asking about.

I asked JKing one question which he has so far ignored,

Aren't you inferring condemnation towards all GSUS readers who disagree with the Official Zionist Holohoax Narrative? ... while at the same time inferring that you are of sufficient piety yourself to be in a position to condemn all those who you judge to "condemn those who disagree"

No. Not at all. As I already stated, I was merely trying to point out that I thought it funny that Book is ready to completely discount a persons opinion on everything simply because they do not agree with his World-view 100%.

Even if this thread had been about some other subject, and Books response been in the same context, I would have pointed out the same thing.

Just because a person has a different view on some things does not necessarily mean that they are wrong on all things.

Allow me to give you a personal example of what I mean, Pat.
Take Max Keiser. I do not agree at all with his views on global warming, but I do not reject him outright for having those views because if I did I'd miss out on the stuff he says that I do agree with. Not to mention the informative guests he often interviews.

I look at all people that way as I realize that everyone has good stuff sometimes....even Book and Ximmy post some good stuff from time to time. And I give them credit when they do.

Book phrased his own response, that I poked fun at, as though he had at one time supported the person in question.
In Books own words he posted..."He just lost my support".
To lose ones "support" implies via context that his support of the person in question did in fact previously exist.

So again, I thought it funny that Book did that and I just wanted to let him know that I did.
You know, in the same way he does to everyone else. I thought he liked that kind of thing.

and there's an inferred question to JK here, namely "isn't it true that independent holocaust researcher/revisionists today are treated in the same way as JK paints his "Nazi" caricature?", which JK has also ignored so far:

Ironic, that "Nazi" caricature you describe re alleged events in Germany +/- 70 years ago, and how it aptly describes what indisputably happens today in many western zio-kontrolled countries when their citizens dare to think for themselves rather than goose-clapping for Tinkerbell - off to prison kamp they go! [Irving, Rudolf, Zundel, Zundel's defense attorney, etc]


I'd be curious to hear whether JK agrees with the above point, or disagrees & why?

It wouldn't have been relevent to compare him to Mao Tse Tung, now would it have?

I compared him to Hitler because that's what Book seems to act like on the forum....a little Hitler dictator guy. You know, just like the cariciture of Hitler and his merry band of men goose-stepping down the road.

Besides, I thought Book would like being compared to what seems to be a hero of his.


As far as what happened in Germany during WW2 and the Jews, I personally have no idea of what really happened as I was not there. Nor was I even alive at the time. Nor have I researched it much. Which is why I tend not to get into the meat and potatoes of whether it actually happened or not.

IMO, any hard evidence that would prove it conclusively one way or another has likely been destroyed by now, so IMO it all comes down to whatever a person chooses to believe happened.
Maybe it did, maybe it didn't.....or is somewhere inbetween both extremes.


The main thing that needs to be pointed out is that I made one little post trying to point out Books sillyness in rejecting someone he used to support over one sentence the guy used.
....and then I was instantly taken to task for it and accused of derailing the thread all because Book can't take his own medicene that he expects others to willingly take.

Now that I've responded to you after you asked Pat, I will probably get taken to task again and accused of derailing the thread once more.
...but you did ask me my opinion.

I appologize for the late response as I had previously not seen your post that I am responding to as I was being kept busy in other threads by those who seem to not like my honest opinion of various things.
Such as freedom and Liberty for all Americans.

[keehah]

I left a comment after the Globe article. Its a months old article, but Kay and his co-worker will get to read it some day.

I may have to start posting all over the MSM to keep this thread on track.
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I've found accounts of 9/11 like the book 'Crossing the Rubicon' make a stronger case than the official story. I have much in common with 'truthers' (one of the labels du jour, as the corporate media likes to label segregate).

Its been a mystery to me how the less-educated in materials science, engineering and such, are most active trading and talking of the disinfo around the event rather than the solid evidence that directly links the false-flag to real people and organizations. And even many educated well in the sciences and politics, may still not understand how police and prosecutors would best make a case of conspiracy. Crossing the Rubicon was written by an ex-Cop.

And both you and Kay (I've not read the book) should be up front that you are not neutral parties to this. Its easy to make a case those of your position are more responsible for promoting the official report than any government or its agency is.

And what is conspiracy? Basically any crime commited [by] more than one person. Perhaps this could be further limited as white collar crime (by more than one person acting alone).
con·spir·a·cy   
1.the act of conspiring.
2.an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

From the article: "Kay makes the case for it, arguing for an anti-conspiracist curriculum to be taught in schools"

I was quite surprised at the Chutzpah, your recommendations the state teach all the children that white collar crime does not exist in the same paragraph that mentions The Protocols.

What the kids really need to be taught more of is critical thinking. Then perhaps eventually we would not have to search so hard for truth.

[PatColo]

JKing, your first 2 replies in the thread read like condemnation of book/anyone who doesn't Goose-Clap for Tinkerbell WRT the Holohoax Controversy:

I guess he doesn't goose-step exactly the way you do, huh?

You probably want to hold Ximmy's oven door open.

IE anyone who doesn't Goose-Clap for Tinkerbell is obviously a goose-stepping (neo)Nazi who really just wants to gas all dajooz... your using emotion-tugger language designed to paralyze rational thought & deter readers from exploring the Holohoax Controversy avenue of inquiry.

I see how you can, and are, making the case re your first quote above that your only intention was to criticize book's pulling his support for Barrett based on a single point of disagreement; but your choice to use the ADL dangerous-thought-stopper buzzword (goose-step), combined with more of the same in the next quote (..oven..) gives readers the stronger impression that your main intention was to caricature-ize book (and of course anyone else who's sympathetic to holohoax revisionism), as goose stepping nazis who secretly want to gas all dajooz.

Do you agree that Western governments should cease prosecuting, imprisoning & fining those revisionist-historians who propose/evidence alternative narratives re the holohoax? [Irving, Rudolf, Zundel, Zundel's defense attorney, etc]

Should Bishop Williamson have to pay the 6,500 euro fine which the German court just upheld, for his holohoax thought-crime?

British Holocaust denier verdict upheld


Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:20PM GMT

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/201...2074112310.jpgBritish-born Roman Catholic Bishop, Richard Williamson


A German appeals court has upheld the guilty verdict of a British bishop who had been earlier convicted on charges of denying the Holocaust.


The Regensburg court on Monday confirmed a conviction issued against Richard Williamson last year for Holocaust denial, but decided to reduce his penalty from the original fine of EUR 10,000 to EUR 6,500 (USD 9,136), the Associated Press reported.

The 71-year-old bishop had stated in a 2008 interview with a Swedish TV station that he did not believe Jews lost their lives in gas chambers in the Nazi concentration camps during the Second World War.

Williamson's lawyers have not denied the statements made by him during the interview, but stressed that such views could be expressed freely in Sweden.

Holocaust denial is considered a crime in Germany.

In a similar case, Fredrick Toben, a graduate of Oxford's Exeter College and a German-born Australian author, was tried in Germany in 1999 for his revisionist views of the Holocaust and sentenced to seven months in prison.

Roman Catholic Bishop Richard Williamson on the Holocaust




Bishop Williamson is also a 911 OCT thought-criminal,

Bishop Williamson's 9/11 sermon




Jking, doesn't these Western states' treatment of holohoax-revisionists eerily resemble you nazi caricature? :

You know, the way the Nazis were, both in their funny looking march, all in lock step unable to think for themselves and if they did, off to the work kamp they go.

[Joe King]

JKing, your first 2 replies in the thread read like condemnation of book/anyone who doesn't Goose-Clap for Tinkerbell WRT the Holohoax Controversy:

Sorry Pat, but you didn't get it at all.

It was meant that Book doesn't like anyone who doesn't goose step with him.

That's all. It's an analogy for someone who is of rigid thinking with no tolerance for anyone else who is even slightly out of step.

Kinda like Hitler was too. Those that resisted his vision were sent away, or learned to hide how they really felt.
Kinda like how some on here don't always speak up because they know what happens if they do. They get taken to task for having their own opinion.

Edited to add: Since Book wants to acts like a little Hitler, it's an obvious choice to use the goose steping reference. It also means that I think Book looks funny when he does his thinking. Just like Hitlers troops looked funny when they marched.

[PatColo]

wow this "Anonymous" person posting comments @ KB's blog is pretty smart!

Anonymous said...
Kevin: great recent 2 shows with, and about, JKay.

Re "Zionism", I hear you define it as "Jewish Nationalism". While this definition works somewhat, I don't think it strikes the root.

I find these 2 David Icke articles on zionism among those landmark articles which really help cut through the synthetic fog & untangle so much about the zion/Jews/izzy/etc question.

"The Zionist Elephant In The Room"
http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm
&
"THEY DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME ... ROTHSCHILD ZIONISM"
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/po...schild-zionism

Zionism = the political movement of the Rothschild Global Central Bankster Usury Empire sucking the blood of humanity.

Izzy = the global usury empire's (temporary?) sovereign base of operations, until the historic sovereignty paradigm is dismantled (UN/NWO/world government of/by/for the central bankster usury empire).

I give most "rank & file Jews" who are zionist supporters the benefit of the doubt as being successfully brainwashed & deceived by the zionist-invented "Jews = perennial victims of irrational haters" memeplex indoctrination which Jews are marinated in within their family & religious communities- similar to how Westerners are expected to be tricked by the zionist-invented war-on-terror hoax, which relies on the same "fear of outside enemies" ploy to try to unite us behind (corrupt) leaders- a regular "terror & protection racket".

But point remains though, the root which fuels the global zionist political enterprise isn't "Jewish Nationalism" though that's an important enabling-branch of the hideous tree; the root is the Rothschild Global Usury Empire- hidden hand in so much actual world history. Your thoughts?
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Kevin Barrett said...
You're probably right. I'm slow to come around to this perspective, maybe because I have an aversion to theories about how "THEY" control everything. I see power relations as a very rich ecosystem -- and though they lions may be at the top of the food chain, they don't control the whole jungle. So I would distinguish between bankers and Zionists -- not all bankers are Zionists, and not all Zionists are bankers. Zionists are people who actively support a Jewish state in Palestine, and Zionism the project of establishing and maintaining that state. The Rothschilds may be the most powerful and influential Zionists, but I think it oversimplifies things to see the whole Zionist project as a Rothschild brainwashing operation. (Yes, most Jewish and Christian Zionists are brainwashed, but in a more complex way than this model indicates.)
July 27, 2011 9:20 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8-KYt8zj8R...%25252Bpic.jpg John Friend said...
Excellent analysis from Anonymous, I must say.
July 27, 2011 9:43 PM http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif

Anonymous said...
Kevin, I didn't say "THEY control everything", however it's evident to me that "Rothschild-Zionism" according to Icke's model, is today the single most powerful political entity on earth, cloaked in deception & squid-ink though it is, surpassing that of any sovereign superpower nation-state, or coalition such as NATO, which appears to me to be in effect, Rothschild-Zionism's global military force.

You can argue until you're blue whether or not zionism is based on collecting on "God's real-estate grant to his chosen people", & good luck making any headway wrestling with that diversionary tar baby. It makes better earthly sense (to me) to think of Rothschild-Zionist Occupied Palestine as the Rothschild Global Usury Empire's sovereign base of operations, made necessary by the hundreds of years of history of pogroms where the usurious money lenders who were consequently wrecking their host countries, were kicked out of said countries. Izzy's "right of return" laws? They don't extradite their citizens wanted for crimes committed abroad (coz of the "irrational Jewish persecution" memeplex again)? Sounds more like a bankster's safe-haven, than a modern nation-state!

The way fiat money/banking work, "money" printed out of thin air and loaned out at compounding interest, is a time-tested "real wealth" transferring mechanism ultimately leaving the lender with everything and the borrower bankrupt- the "nation-wrecking" mechanism which we're now seeing the endgame play out across the [bankster-engineered] economically collapsing West. Meanwhile the West's former middle-classes are asked to endure "austerity" (IE lower, neo-serfdom living standards) as a consequence.

"Rothschild-Zionism" is ultimately about the protection and advancement of the fiat-money-lending/wealth-transfer mechanism which is the heart of the Rothschild Global Usury Empire's modern global power- unprecedented in world history; and this sad state of affairs has been enabled in part by the post-WW2 existence of their "safe haven" in occupied Palestine. Their nation-wrecking usury machine had repeatedly been inconvenienced & set back in centuries past, by host nations eventually kicking them out or imprisoning them. "Israel" is Rothschild's solution. Everything else about "Divine real-estate grants" and "irrational persecution of Jews", is Rothschild squid-ink obscuring and diverting attention from the reality of their global usury wealth-transfer machine- the ultimate source of so much of the world's woes. Recall Mike Ruppert's mantra: "Until we change the way money works, we change nothing."

Incidentally, I suspect Islam's prohibition of usury might be a major motive in the Rothschild-Zionist Global Usury Empire's agenda to destroy the religion and/or its adherents... you think? It was nice to see this unlikely article appear in the SF Chronicle ~3 years ago,

"Muslim investors profit by adhering to faith"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...J4HD.DTL&tsp=1
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Kevin Barrett said...
Mathematically, whoever issues the money supply by lending it at interest (assuming that they get paid back most of the time) will end up with an ever-bigger slice of the pie. So it stands to reason that the big bankers who create money out of nothing are plotting to take over the world. Why wouldn't they?

I haven't studied this issue intensively enough to feel confident I have a handle on it. And while I LIKE Icke (I was thinking of printing up some bumper-stickers saying so) I'm not taking his word for anything. If you have any suggestions about which well-documented sources I should read, feel free.
July 28, 2011 6:11 AM http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif

Kevin Barrett said...
Anyway, I agree with John F. - excellent analysis. And a good working hypothesis.
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Anonymous said...
Thanks John & Kevin. Kevin I imagine you've seen the animated 48 min video "Money As Debt".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc3sKwwAaCU

It's must-watching if not. I like not only its simple breakdown of how our usurious & ruinous money system works, but also how it's peppered with historic quotes from notables which hint at the larger NWO game afoot by the (Rothschild) banksters. Be poised on the PAUSE button, as I find the quotes scroll by a little fast, esp relative to their importance!

Otherwise I know you're familiar with G. Edward Griffin's, and Ellen Brown's works.

On "well-documented sources" re the truth of Rothschild-Zionist Occupied Palestine, well that's a less mathematically straightforward avenue of inquiry compared to understanding the way the global usury machine works, since the Global Usury Empire with its bottomless resources, has long dispatched its minions to ensure that real history is all gummed up by bogus "academic studies" which paint a Rothschild/Israel-friendly portrait. As Gilad Atzmon writes in his essay, "Truth, History, and Integrity: Questioning the Holocaust Religion", (note: I would replace "Jewish" with "Rothschild-Zionist" in the following):

"... For the nationalist and political Jew, history is a pragmatic tale, it is an elastic account. It is foreign to any scientific or academic method. Jewish history transcends itself beyond factuality, truthfulness or correspondence rules with any given vision of reality. It also repels integrity or ethics. It by far prefers total submission, instead of creative and critical thinking. Jewish history is a phantasmic tale that is there to make the Jews happy and the Goyim behave themselves. It is there to serve the interests of one tribe and that tribe only. In practice, from a Jewish perspective, the decision whether there was an Armenian genocide or not is subject to Jewish interests: is it good for the Jews or is it good for Israel. ..."

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%2...d%20Atzmon.htm

iamthewitness.com has dozens of free books to read,
http://iamthewitness.com/books/index.php

I suspect your "public stance" towards "Clapping For Tinkerbell"
http://www.codoh.com/newrevoices/nrjwclapping.html
WRT the Rothschild-Zionists' Official Holocaust Narrative, if you're being honest rather than politically expedient in the interest of being a more effective 911 Truther unsmeared by the "holocaust denier" label- this may taint your ability to view the dubious official holocaust narrative as yet another Rothschild ploy to aid in the pretext for the creation of Rothschild-Zionist Occupied Palestine. I know you're aware of the 1917 Balfour Declaration.

Regardless, I maintain that understanding Israel as proxy & sovereign safe-haven for the Rothschild-Zionist Global Usury Empire which rules at least the West, is a more earthly/materialist/practical model for understanding world events, versus the competing "biblical explanations". It's not hard to see that Western governments are owned by the banksters... the rest is propaganda to keep the masses paralyzed with confusion & disinfo, unable to affect change because they're systematically deceived about how things work. "Western Powers" are de facto colonies of the Rothschild Global Usury Empire now, with Israel their headquarters.
July 28, 2011 8:11 AM

[PatColo]

Sorry Pat, but you didn't get it at all.

It was meant that Book doesn't like anyone who doesn't goose step with him.

That's all. It's an analogy for someone who is of rigid thinking with no tolerance for anyone else who is even slightly out of step.

Kinda like Hitler was too. Those that resisted his vision were sent away, or learned to hide how they really felt.
Kinda like how some on here don't always speak up because they know what happens if they do. They get taken to task for having their own opinion.

Edited to add: Since Book wants to acts like a little Hitler, it's an obvious choice to use the goose steping reference. It also means that I think Book looks funny when he does his thinking. Just like Hitlers troops looked funny when they marched.

Just so everyone's completely clear then JKing, you don't mean to cast condemnation towards people who are sympathetic to revisionist views regarding the Holohoax Controversy, and you maintain that readers who got that impression from your first several posts in this thread would be mistaken?

I'd also appreciate hearing your answers to these former questions,

Do you agree that Western governments should cease prosecuting, imprisoning & fining those revisionist-historians who propose/evidence alternative narratives re the holohoax? [Irving, Rudolf, Zundel, Zundel's defense attorney, etc]

Should Bishop Williamson have to pay the 6,500 euro fine which the German court just upheld, for his holohoax thought-crime?

[...]

Jking, doesn't these Western states' treatment of holohoax-revisionists eerily resemble you nazi caricature?

You know, the way the Nazis were, both in their funny looking march, all in lock step unable to think for themselves and if they did, off to the work kamp they go.