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    Post-Genderism: Beyond the Gender Binary (Trans-Humanism stuff)

    This is a Zio/NWO "academic study", published in '08. It's a component of "Transhumanism" and/or "Brave New World" [read full novel HERE] stuff, very real WRT what "they" are and will continue to try to do to humanity, to make us better slaves.

    It's a PDF, I'm just posting the abstract and chapter titles here, open it to read in full.


    Postgenderism:
    Beyond the Gender Binary


    Abstract
    Postgenderism is an extrapolation of ways that technology is eroding the biological, psychological and
    social role of gender, and an argument for why the erosion of binary gender will be liberatory.
    Postgenderists argue that gender is an arbitrary and unnecessary limitation on human potential, and
    foresee the elimination of involuntary biological and psychological gendering in the human species
    through the application of neurotechnology, biotechnology and reproductive technologies. Postgenderists
    contend that dyadic gender roles and sexual dimorphisms are generally to the detriment of individuals and
    society. Assisted reproduction will make it possible for individuals of any sex to reproduce in any
    combinations they choose, with or without "mothers" and "fathers," and artificial wombs will make
    biological wombs unnecessary for reproduction. Greater biological fluidity and psychological androgyny
    will allow future persons to explore both masculine and feminine aspects of personality. Postgenderists do
    not call for the end of all gender traits, or universal androgyny, but rather that those traits become a matter
    of choice. Bodies and personalities in our postgender future will no longer be constrained and
    circumscribed by gendered traits, but enriched by their use in the palette of diverse self-expression.

    I. Introduction

    2. Cultural Antecedents and Postgender Theory
    2.1 Intersexuality and Hermaphrodites
    2.2 Homosexuality, Bisexuality, Castration and Cross-dressing
    2.3 Sexology, Bisexuality and the Third Sex
    2.4 Beyond Gender Essentialism and Constructionism
    2.5 PostGender Theory and Politics Today
    3. Technologies Enabling PostGender Society
    3.1 Transcending Gendered Social Roles and Reproduction
    3.1.1 Industrial Machinery, and Service and Intellectual Labor
    3.1.2 Beyond Heterosexual Monogamy
    3.2 Contraception, Abortion, Assisted Reproduction and Artificial Wombs
    3.3 Transcending the Gendered Body and Brain
    3.3.1 Sex Re-assignment and Designer Genitals
    3.3.2 Virtual Bodies
    3.3.3 Beyond The Gendered Brain
    4. Toward a Postgender Future

    Bibliography

    http://ieet.org/archive/IEET-03-PostGender.pdf
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    Scary shit right here. Don't have time to dig into this, but I can already see it happening around me....
    There be fish in that there creek by'

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    Transgenderism has its place, in many many fields of interest...medicine, music, sports, culinary, engineering, education, civil service, etc. One place where it needs to make MORE progress is in religion. Religion I think sometimes is the perversion of a truly non-Gender God/Creator/Source.

    Progress of de-genderizing "God" from the current male like me permits inclusive behaviors which empower women, yes, that include women like my wife and daughter and sisters, mother's everywhere aunts, cousins, etc.

    When I became aware of planetary/social history and realized there was a time when God was thought as female only--- "Gaia" i think it is spelled-- and what a "humanity lurch" it was to swing to the polar opposite male anthropomorphism perspective, it gave me a new appreciation for the disenfranchising genderization in our "God Stuff" to our much loved and required planetary partners.

    That being said, it's a struggle "to be a man" in today's "environment..." Heck, most days it's tough just to be human, instead of a poked and prodded and manipulated male serf!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by beefsteak View Post
    Transgenderism has its place, in many many fields of interest...medicine, music, sports, culinary, engineering, education, civil service, etc. One place where it needs to make MORE progress is in religion. Religion I think sometimes is the perversion of a truly non-Gender God/Creator/Source.
    Progree of de-genderizing "God" from the current male like me permits inclusive behaviors which empower women, yes, that include women like my wife and daughter and sisters, mother's everywhere aunts, cousins, etc.

    When I became aware of planetary/social history and realized there was a time when God was thought as female only--- "Gaia" i think it is spelled-- and what a "humanity lurch" it was to swing to the polar opposite male anthropomorphism perspective, it gave me a new appreciation for the disenfranchising genderization in our "God Stuff" to our much loved and required planetary partners.

    beef: did you ever read the
    Thread: gnosticism discussion on veritas radio ?


    Quote Originally Posted by beefsteak View Post
    That being said, it's a struggle "to be a man" in today's "environment..." Heck, most days it's tough just to be human, instead of a poked and prodded and manipulated male serf!!!


    beefsteak (a.k.a., prime rib)

    or maybe you'd like to be called, "T-Bone!"
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    who comes to mind is Chaz Bono, who has spent 100s of thousands on body modification surgery.

    she-now-he is currently working on their beard -

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    Somehow I find that much less disturbing then a man trying to become a woman. I have aunts with mustaches and they likely just have too much estrogen.

    Another thing that bugs me is that the medical community will justify giving females that would rather be men testosterone but older men that could use some for hormone replacement therapy to improve quality of life are generally told that it is just part of aging. Double standard no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son-of-Liberty View Post
    Somehow I find that much less disturbing then a man trying to become a woman. I have aunts with mustaches and they likely just have too much estrogen.
    Wouldn't that be too much testosterone, not estrogen?
    Higher testosterone levels in women is what's responsible for the masculinizing effect in women you are referring to. {greater amounts of facial hair in some women as they age}


    Another thing that bugs me is that the medical community will justify giving females that would rather be men testosterone but older men that could use some for hormone replacement therapy to improve quality of life are generally told that it is just part of aging. Double standard no?
    It is a part of aging. From what I've gathered, as we age, women tend to have increasingly higher testosterone levels and men increasingly higher estrogen levels.
    Yes, we all have both, but in inverse quantitys relative to gender.
    ...but the levels of each change gradually as we age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunDriller View Post
    who comes to mind is Chaz Bono, who has spent 100s of thousands on body modification surgery.

    she-now-he is currently working on their beard -

    remember -

    what


    is


    seen


    can not

    be


    un-seen



    http://www.rickey.org/wp-content/upl...Bono-Beard.jpg
    something had to be done though:

    Attachment 1122
    Jackie did it and you know it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe King View Post
    Wouldn't that be too much testosterone, not estrogen?
    Higher testosterone levels in women is what's responsible for the masculinizing effect in women you are referring to. {greater amounts of facial hair in some women as they age}


    It is a part of aging. From what I've gathered, as we age, women tend to have increasingly higher testosterone levels and men increasingly higher estrogen levels.
    Yes, we all have both, but in inverse quantitys relative to gender.
    ...but the levels of each change gradually as we age.
    You might be right, I do know that some of the estrogen can convert to testosterone but I think I heard somewhere that too much estrogen could lead to some facial hair in women. Now you have me wanting to do some research.
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    No, testosterone converts to estrogen.

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