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The accountants and insurance companies got together at construction time, and decided it was more cost effective to just let it land in your front yard, or on your children's swing set.Originally Posted by Joe King
The accountants and insurance companies got together at construction time, and decided it was more cost effective to just let it land in your front yard, or on your children's swing set.
You sound just like every girl I've ever known.
To strap boosters to all of them would be cost prohibitive. The danger of satellites falling to Earth is a very small danger. Virtually non-existant. You'd be far more likely to be struck by a meteor than you would a falling satellite. Why go to extreme lengths and costs to prevent something that doesn't, or at the least, very rarely happens?
Do you think perhaps we should erect meteor nets over all the citys too? lol
Are you truly in fear of being struck by falling satellites? If you are, don't waste a good worry. Worry about where your debt "money" system is going to lead instead.
That is, if you actually need something to worry about as opposed to doing something about.
Jerk-Off Joe agrees with Ford... profits before people...
Ford knew of the weakness in the fuel tank before the vehicle was placed on the market but that a cost/benefit study was done which suggested that it would be "cheaper" for Ford to pay liability for burn deaths and injuries rather than modify the fuel tank to prevent the fires in the first place.
Ford Pinto Fuel-Fed Fires On June 9, 1978, Ford Motor Company agreed to recall 1.5 million Ford Pinto and 30,000 Mercury Bobcat sedan and hatchback models for fuel tank design defects which made the vehicles susceptible to fire in the event of a moderate-speed rear end collision. The action was the result of investigations by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Office of Defect Investigations (Case #C7-38), sparked by a petition from Center for Auto Safety, publicity generated by national publication expose of the hazard (Mother Jones News Magazine, "Pinto Madness" by Mark Dowie, Sept/Oct, 1977) and publicity over the largest punitive damages awarded by a California jury to a young man who had been severely injured in a Pinto fuel tank fire (Grimshaw v Ford).
In April, 1974, the Center for Auto Safety petitioned the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to recall Ford Pintos due to defects in the design of the strap on gas tank which made it susceptible to leakage and fire in low to moderate speed collisions. The Center's petition was based upon reports from attorneys of three deaths and 4 serious injuries in such accidents. This petition languished in the NHTSA offices until 1977.
In 1977, Mark Dowie of Mother Jones Magazine, using documents in the Center files, published an article reporting the dangers of the fuel tank design, and cited internal Ford Motor Company documents that proved that Ford knew of the weakness in the fuel tank before the vehicle was placed on the market but that a cost/benefit study was done which suggested that it would be "cheaper" for Ford to pay liability for burn deaths and injuries rather than modify the fuel tank to prevent the fires in the first place. Dowie showed that Ford owned a patent on a better designed gas tank at that time, but that cost and styling considerations ruled out any changes in the gas tank design of the Pinto.
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Closely following the publication of the Mother Jones article, a jury in Orange County, Calif., awarded Richard Grimshaw $125 million in punitive damages for injuries he sustained while a passenger in a 1971 Pinto which was struck by another car at an impact speed of 28MPH and burst into flames. Although the award was eventually reduced to $3.5 million by the trial judge, the jury's reason for the figure of $125 million was that Ford Motor Company had marketed the Pinto with full knowledge that injuries such as Grimshaw's were inevitable in the Pinto and therefore the punitive damages should be more than Ford had made in profit on the Pinto since its introduction, which was $124 million.
With the publication of the Mother Jones article and the Grimshaw case publicity, the Center for Auto Safety resubmitted its petition for a defects investigation into the Pinto and ODI Case #C7-38 was opened. ODI had crash tests done of 1971-76 Pintos, sedan, hatchback ("Runabout") and station wagon models, and the results showed significant fuel tank ruptures and leakage, in one case after an impact of 30.31 MPH the entire contents of the fuel tank leaked out of the 1976 Pinto in less than one minute. (Investigative Report, Phrase I, C7-38, 1971-76 Ford Pinto and 1975-76 Mercury Bobcat, May, 1978.).
Based upon the tests performed for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and by the tremendous publicity generated over the problem, Ford agreed to recall all 1971 through 1976 Ford Pintos and 1975-76 Mercury Bobcat sedan and hatchback models for modifications to the fuel tank. The modifications included a longer fuel filler neck and a better clamp to keep it securely in the fuel tank, a better gas cap in some models, and placement of a plastic shield between the front of the fuel tank and the differential to protect the tank from the nuts and bolts on the differential and another along the right corner of the tank to protect it from the right rear shock absorber. Recall notices were mailed in September, 1978 and parts were to be at all dealers by September 15, 1978. However, between June 9, 1978, and the date when parts were available to repair the estimated 2.2 million vehicles, six people died in Pinto fires after a rear impact.
In one of the instances, an Elkhart, Indiana grand jury returned indictments against Ford Motor Company for three cases of negligence from the deaths of three young women. But on March 13, 1980, a jury found Ford innocent of a charge of failing to warn about or offer to repair fuel system defects in the Pinto before the day the three women were fatally burned. The verdict is not an unfavorable precedent with regard to criminal prosecution of corporations for defective products that kill. Despite numerous mitigating circumstances in the Pinto case-speeding van, hazardous highway, driver in possession of alcohol and illegal drugs, the exclusion of evidence from the NHTSA investigation including the crash tests, the inclusion into evidence of Ford's exculpatory crash tests, and a local prosecutor with minimal resources-the possibility of successful corporate criminal liability suits in the future remains open.
http://www.autosafety.org/ford-pinto-fuel-fed-fires
Now you're putting words in my mouth.
...and being less than genuine in your argument.
Are you seriously comparing the very real threat of something that actually happened with something that's only happened once, and the one person it happened to is still alive and well?
http://www.aero.org/capabilities/cords/faq8.html
Getting hit by a falling satellite is about the least thing one should worry about.
Look at the Columbia accident. It showered debris over a wide, populated area and no one got hit.
...and after that they always re-entered over the water. ie "problem" solved.
On a side note, had they always re-entered over water, we'd have likely never known for sure what happened to it. The fact it fell over land is what allowed enough pieces to be found in order to conclusively prove what happened to it.
Well in that case... never mind...
Joe, your avatar is missing... Please put it back for proper forum identification...
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Joe they are doing something about it now,,. Something may have prevented those missing tiles from the Space shuttle,,
My guess is you will see more falling through as you are seeing now, simply because the designs were cheaper as explained before (ie: cost bang for buck)
Your defense of space junk is suspect, now you're just being indigent.
First everything falls, now nothing falls. Space junk is a serious problem along with your wish wash attitude.
Not to mention your neglect & disregard for the American Bald Eagle as an endangered species.
Krakatoa [Indonesia] Volcano Alert Status
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Explosive eruptions and information on SakuraJima volcano, Japan + video’s"On October 2, 2011, at 00.00 until 12.00, there are 2745 recorded seismicity."
SUNDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2011, 13:44 GMT Elin Yunita Kristanti
VIVAnews - Mount Anak Krakatau has raised the status of a "standby" or level IV. The Center for Volcanology and Geological Hazard Mitigation (PVMBG), Surono said a rise in status is set on Friday, September 30, 2011 evening at 24.00. The reason is the elevated status because of the high-intensity earthquake. Today, for example. "On October 2, 2011, at 00.00 until 12.00, there are 2745 recorded seismicity," said Surono, when contacted VIVAnews.com , Sunday, October 2, 2011. quake Mount Anak Krakatau, Surono added, and even felt up to the island of Anak Krakatau. "So often, streak continues. Although the earthquake was too small, 2 on the Richter scale, even under an SR, but because it feels so constantly," he added...
Surono mention, there are currently six volcanoes in Indonesia a standby status, ie Son of Krakatoa, Lokon, Karangetang, Papandayan, Tambora, and Children Ranakah , The status of "alert" is 16.
Volcano on Alaska's remote Aleutians oozes lavaOctober 3, 2011 By Armand Vervaeck
The webcam videos below are from October 1 and October 3, 2011. They show a couple of explosive eruptions.
Canary Islands after earthquake triggers volacano fearsDAN JOLING,Associated Press September 26, 2011
A volcano in Alaska's remote Aleutian Islands has begun oozing lava, a signal that the mountain could explode and send up an ash cloud that could threaten aircraft.
Satellite images show lava is building in the crater at the summit of 5,675-foot Cleveland Mountain on an uninhabited island about 940 miles southwest of Anchorage, according to the Alaska Volcano Observatory.
"It's forming a dome-shaped accumulation in the crater," said Chris Waythomas of the U.S. Geological Survey, the observatory's acting scientist in charge. "We call these things 'lava domes.' It looks like a muffin top."
Lava domes form a lid on a volcano's "plumbing," including the chamber holding the magma. When they grow big enough, lava domes become unstable and will sometimes collapse, decompressing the magma chamber and leading to an explosion, Waythomas said.
"They can seal up the conduit and prevent gasses from escaping and lead to an explosive event," he said...
Cleveland Volcano's last major eruption was in 2001. It has had bursts of activity nearly every year since then, Waythomas said.
The lava dome now measures 540 feet in diameter, up from 490 feet Sept. 9. Waythomas said a satellite image indicated the lava dome was about 65 feet below the low point on the crater rim.
"The crater is starting to fill up," he said. "This could take another week or two and it will be there. And then we're not sure what will happen."
The lava flow may stop, or lava could spill over and descend the mountain's flank.
"It may not do anything explosive. It may just ooze over," Waythomas said. "Or it could cause the dome itself to collapse just because it becomes unstable at that point. It's on a steep slope and there's nothing holding it up there."..
In announcements about Cleveland Volcano, the observatory warns that it does not have a real-time seismic network on the remote volcano and cannot track its earthquake activity, forecast imminent eruptions or even confirm explosive, ash-producing events.
Katla Rattles Again, New Flood in Múlakvísl?From: AFP September 29, 2011 5:00AM
POLICE have moved residents and tourists from houses at the foot of a volcano on Spain's Canary Islands after a growing series of earthquakes raised fears of an eruption.
With the Pico de Malpaso mountain spitting rocks intermittently and a growing rumbling underground, authorities made emergency preparations in case the volcano blows its top on the Atlantic island of El Hierro.
"I have never felt shaking like it," said Herminio Barrera, 25, a mechanic in the town of La Frontera.
"I notice it especially at night. We can also hear a rumbling and sounds from deep down."
A municipal official who asked not to be named told AFP that 53 residents and tourists had been evacuated to protect them from the occasional flying volcanic rock and the defence ministry said it was preparing emergency shelter for 2,000 people.
"I am staying calm but there are people who are more worried, particularly those with children," Barrera told AFP.
"We are very close to the mountain. My father-in-law left yesterday."
The Canary Islands regional government said it was in a state of pre-alert and was stocking drinking water and medical supplies, but officials played down any risk of a disaster.
"We will not have to evacuate the island," population 11,000, said the head of the island's local council, Alpidio Armas. "The number of tremors has increased, but most of them are in the sea."
The municipal official said the authorities did not expect an "imminent eruption" and the island's official risk alert for the 1,500-metre peak remained on yellow, or intermediate.
The national defence ministry said it had sent 31 military personnel to the island to help with the evacuation and Defence Minister Carme Chacon was heading there to inspect the emergency preparations.
The Spanish National Geographic Institute has recorded 8,000 tremors since July 19, most of them too small to be felt, but they have been growing in intensity. One recorded overnight on Wednesday reached 3.4 magnitude.
"We have not seen this kind of movement with such frequency on El Hierro since records began" more than a century ago, said a spokeswoman for the Canary Islands government, Ana Vidal.
The last volcanic eruption on the Canary Islands was on nearby La Palma in 1971, she said.
Nabro volcano (Eritrea/Ethiopia) : evidence of ongoing activity (satellite pictures)03.10.2011 | 13:00 IcelandReview
A driver who passed across the river Múlakvísl in south Iceland late last night said it is likely that the river flooded. Sulfur could be smelt long before he reached the river, he said.
Múlakvísl is a glacial river which originates in Mýrdalsjökull, underneath which the volcano Katla lies. A minor eruption is believed to have caused a glacial outburst in Múlakvísl in July, which destroyed the bridge and tore a hole in the Ring Road.
Since then, minor earthquakes in the volcano have regularly been reported; on Sunday morning sensors picked up two small tremors in the Katla caldera measuring less than two points on the Richter scale, ruv.is reports.
Volcanologist Evgenia Ilyinskaya said the earthquakes were so small that there is no reason to be concerned.
In response to news of a possible new flood in Múlakvísl, the Icelandic Meteorological Office told ruv.is that sensors don’t show anything unusual but the water level in the river has been high lately due to heavy rain.
The sulfur smell, which has repeatedly been reported in the past months, is said to be caused by geothermal heat underneath the glacier.
Geologists Map Birth Of New OceanOctober 3, 2011
Nabro is an Eritrean volcano with NO historic eruption record. Earthquake-Report.com was one of the first publishers in the world detecting and describing this unexpected eruption. Our very extensive reports were also the work of our many readers who gave a lot of input.
Satellite imagery suggests that the eruption of Nabro Volcano, which began in June 2011, continues. The volcano is located on the edge of the Danakil Desert, a remote and sparsely populated area on the border between Eritrea and Ethiopia, and few eyewitness accounts of the eruption are available.
02 Oct 2011 (NewsCore)
A giant underground reservoir of molten rock has been discovered under the deserts of Ethiopia by British geologists, The (London) Sunday Times reported.
They targeted the Afar region in the Horn of Africa after a recent surge in volcanic activity and earthquakes plus the appearance of giant cracks in the rocky surface. Tectonic plates in the area are pulling apart and gradually creating a new ocean.
Now, the scientists have mapped the colossal underground lake of magma that lies up to 20 miles (32km) below the earth's surface.
"We estimate that there is 3,000 cubic kilometers of molten rock under Afar -- enough to cover all of London ... with around a kilometer of rock," said Kathy Whaler, professor of geophysics at Edinburgh University.
The reservoir is under such pressure that it has forced tongues of molten rock up towards the surface, producing eruptions and earthquakes.
I don't have an avatar, but I like yours.
Those nice green eyes match your equally nice jade bracelet. It is jade, right?
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