UFO and the nephilim

[gunDriller]

My friend, I'll tell you the truth. I am just not sure. But I am almost positive that the UFO phenomenon and everything associated with it is demonic. One day, hopefully I'll be able to connect the dots.

dys

one thing that strikes me is, how similar Luke 1-26-38 is to many accounts of UFO 'contact experiences'.

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name [was] Mary.

28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, [thou that art] highly favoured, the Lord [is] with thee: blessed [art] thou among women.

29 And when she saw [him], she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her."

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-1/

[Awoke]

I don't consider angellic encounters to be synonymous with UFO or alien encounters. Aliens are flesh (If they are indeed real) where angels are without flesh.

[Spectrism]

I don't consider angellic encounters to be synonymous with UFO or alien encounters. Aliens are flesh (If they are indeed real) where angels are without flesh.

Perhaps the phrase "fallen angel" refers to those which lost their spirit essence and have become entrained in the flesh. It would be like gravity taking hold of them and pulling them into the realm of physical laws.


On the question of demonic repentence, there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood. There has to be a perfect sacrifice of the same blood. You cannot have goat blood save a man. And, you cannot have man's blood save an angel. The Messiah took on the form of man.

[Awoke]

Yes. Christ was God made man. His blood redeems us.

Demons are spirit beings, no different from angels, with the exeption of their alignment to evil and apostasy from the Lord who created them. Demons are not physical. They have no fleshy body. That is the pupose of possession and why they yearn for it.

[Spectrism]

Yes. Christ was God made man. His blood redeems us.

Demons are spirit beings, no different from angels, with the exeption of their alignment to evil and apostasy from the Lord who created them. Demons are not physical. They have no fleshy body. That is the pupose of possession and why they yearn for it.

Just guessing here as I have no definitive proof... but it may be possible for the spirit entities to take on physical form at will. Consider this:
Heb 13:2 Do not forget hospitality, for by this some unknowingly took in angels as guests.


But it may also require energy to maintain that state.

There may be a difference between fallen angels and demons. One demonologist thinks demons are discarnate human souls hungry to rejoin flesh. These are evil souls, selfish in their lust for flesh. Fallen angels, however, may despise the flesh. To them it is weakness and restricting.

[Old Herb Lady]

The fallen angels AND the demons are ALWAYS looking for a HOST. (me, you, all/any of us !! ) Always remember that.

Here are 8 very powerful verses from the Bible, all showing us that we are not to be afraid of demons, and that we are to directly engage with them if we have to, operating under God’s authority and anointing to be able to do so.

1.And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved, but he who does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will follow those who believe. In my name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues, they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover.” (Mark 16:15-18

2.“Then Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee … the Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He has anointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor, He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord.” (Luke 4:14-18

3.“Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” (Luke 10:19)

4.“Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick.” (Luke 9:1)

5.“And He called the twelve to Him, and began to send them out two by two, and gave them power over unclean spirits … And they cast out many demons, and anointed with oil many who were sick, and healed them.” (Mark 6:7,13)

6.“And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease.” (Matthew 10:1)

7.“But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.” (Matthew 10:6-8

8.“For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” (1 John 3:8

[Old Herb Lady]

If anyone should find themselves under spiritual attack, consider stopping what you are doing. If you insist on continuing and you ever need help, stay as far away from anything or anyone associated with spiritual warfare as humanly possible.

dys

Dys, that's pretty redundant there. That's like saying if you're in a drowning situation and you need help then stay as far away from the water as possible.

How is running as far away as possible going to help you when the dark entity (that is in or around you) can follow you as easy as pie and continue to practically kill you a little more each & every day.
God has given you the tools & rules to use & follow , heed them & you won't be running scared shitless if you're spiritually protected each & every day from the spiritual warfare that is occurring 24/7 ...365 .

Fight them off first to get them out of you/ away from you THEN run like hell but if you don't fight them off first then you just invited them in by running !

[madfranks]

(sorry spelling in a rush)
I would always recommend the bible as a starting point. There are quite a few quotes in the book that I believe are important. After that, it's a crapshoot. The only guy that I can recommend in good concious is William Cooper. Read his book, watch his speeches, and listen to his old radio programs. Most of them are available for free. After that, it's a crapshoot.
Book of Enoch is probably ok. Book of Jubilees might be ok. Most everybody else out there is probably not ok. The following people are probably NOT ok:

Bill Schnoeblen
Jim Marrs
Zacharia Stichkin
David Icke
Chuck Missler
Michael Tsarion

What's wrong with Chuck Missler? I've listened and studied along with his teachings on the nephilim and I've found them to be quite in tune with the Bible.

[madfranks]

My friend, I'll tell you the truth. I am just not sure. But I am almost positive that the UFO phenomenon and everything associated with it is demonic. One day, hopefully I'll be able to connect the dots.

dys

I'm totally positive that the UFO phenomenon is demonic in nature. I don't want to derail the thread, but there's a somewhat prominent luciferian out there named Aaron Donahue who remote viewed what he called the 72 goetic demon kings, and then drew crude pictures of what they looked like, and many of them looked like what we call "aliens".

http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id260.html

http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id286.html

http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/themin...hue/id255.html

[madfranks]

I don't consider angellic encounters to be synonymous with UFO or alien encounters. Aliens are flesh (If they are indeed real) where angels are without flesh.

I think a better description of angels would be to call them "spirit men", because they do indeed have fleshly bodies. Read Genesis chapter 18 when the angles of the Lord came to visit Abraham and they were offered to rest, wash their feet and enjoy a meal and drink with Abraham. And as mentioned above, many of us have entertained angles unaware. Jesus in his resurrected body was of flesh and bone, yet he was able to "disappear" like the angels. I personally believe that Jesus and the angels are simply not limited to the three spatial dimensions that we humans are limited to. But that is a discussion for another thread.

Ask yourself what happened to the spirits of the nephalim after they died? They were not angels, they were the unholy offspring of angels and humans. So where do their spirits go when they die? I think the demons prominently displayed in the NT are the spirits of the Nephilim, and the reason they yearn for bodies is because their bodies are dead, unlike the angels who don't die and lose their bodies.