FAKE "ELECTIONS" - Why Ron Paul Can't "Win"

[millwright]

Santorum has been on saying that Ron Paul in his own words doesn't believe he will be president, has no intention of becoming president, and that he only wants to change the party.

Does Ron Paul want to be president? Has he ever made statements saying "If I'm president" or "when I'm president"...I don't recall him doing so?

EE, i just made this comment in another thread,and I think it touches on your question so I am repeating it here.

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"After many many years of deep thought on the subject, i have come to this conclusion.

RON PAUL IS HARRY SELDON ! ! ! ! THE BEST WE CAN HOPE FOR, IS THAT WE CAN RETURN TO SOME SENSE OF LIBERTY BY THE TIME OUR CHILDRENS CHILDREN ARE COMING OF AGE.

The Galactic Empire is in decline, the only question is, how long will it take to die ? "

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I think the answer to your question is this. Ron Paul knows that it does not matter if he wins or not. The Republic cannot be saved, and if he were to find himself in a position of power, THE PTB WOULD USE HIM AS AN EXCUSE FOR THE INEVITABLE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC.

The only thing that matters now, is how long it takes us to form a new Republic. It will take much less time if Ron can plant the seeds of liberty in as many minds as possible before the dark ages come.

[Horn]

They don't call it the establishment for nothing.

The MSM needs a new channel with major backing to get anywhere against the establishment.

[PatColo]

either;
A. Ron paul is getting scamed in the voting proccess and RP himself is remaining mum about this robbery, pretending all is legit with the voting/counting process (in which case there is no hope) OR

B. The people are too stupid and decadent to do basic research into who is good for this country ( in which case there is no hope)

I'd stand by that ^

[Shami-Amourae]

[PatColo]

^ wow thanks Shami-A, excellent mini-docu.

Here's the "Eric Blair" article he cites:

Sunday, January 22, 2012

There's something very odd about GOP primary pre-polling and vote


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eRFprerMxF...aul+debate.jpg
Dees Illustration

Eric Blair
Activist Post

Okay. It's time somebody says it. Something seems very strange about the GOP primary pre-polling and vote thus far.

As a Ron Paul fan, I didn't want to seem like a sore loser after the odd Iowa result where the failed no-name Senator, Rick Santorum, was catapulted to victory with very little tangible support.

But, now, how on earth could Newt Gingrich win the South Carolina primary when the day before the vote he had to cancel a major campaign stop because of lack of attendance?

The Associated Press reported:

Newt Gingrich has cancelled a campaign appearance in South Carolina because of poor attendance.

The Republican presidential candidate was scheduled to speak to the Southern Republican Leadership on Friday. But a campaign spokesman told reporters that he would no longer be appearing due to poor attendance.

There were just a few dozen people in the audience at the College of Charleston's arena, where the event was taking place.

Meanwhile, on the same day Ron Paul boasted over 1000 attendees at his campaign event in Charleston:

2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul attracted more than 1,000 supporters in Charleston today, demonstrating his strong support among younger voters and his overall popularity.

The crowd gathered expressly for the 12-term Congressman from Texas as he participated in “The Bully Pulpit Series” at 11:00 a.m. EST at the College of Charleston, located at 7 College Way, Charleston. The candidate had been in Washington the day prior for a key House vote against President Obama raising the debt ceiling, but upon his return there was apparently no loss of enthusiasm.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lJBPDnFYEn...l+sc+rally.jpg
Ron Paul speaking to enthusiastic crowd in Charleston, S.C.

Primary elections are traditionally driven by enthusiasm. In other words, the average voter does not turn out for primaries unless they are motivated by a certain candidate. So, could someone please explain to me how Newt Gingrich, who has virtually no ground game, no money, and no fervent supporters, just won the South Carolina primary?

Could the conspiracy to keep Ron Paul out of the Oval Office be this coordinated, this pervasive?

[PatColo]

Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

[DMac]

ELRON - VOXEO: The Israeli Defense Firm That Tallies the Iowa Caucus

By Christopher Bollyn
31 December 2007

The Iowa caucus is only a few days away and the nation's attention will be directed to the results, which signify the beginning of the U.S. presidential race. But does anyone watch who tallies the results of the Iowa caucus?

The Iowa caucus results were tallied in 2004 by a company that is headed by a man whose company was bought by Elron Electronics, the Israeli defense firm. I suspect that it will be the same this year. Don't expect to see any grassroots political activists doing the tally in Iowa. The Israeli defense establishment takes care of that part of the American "democratic" election process.

VOXEO

In the summer of 2004, I first learned that a foreign and out-of-state company using Interactive Voice Response (IVR) technology tallied the Iowa caucus results.

The system used to tally the 2004 Iowa caucus results was provided by a company called Voxeo, which was apparently based in Orlando, Florida. (Yellow flag goes up in the mind of those familiar with Orlando and electronic vote fraud history. See Bollyn article on Yang below.)

The calls from the nearly 2,000 caucus centers in Iowa went to a Voxeo call center in Atlanta, Georgia.

On January 31, 2005, I wrote to Michelle Bauer, Iowa's Secretary of State with some questions about the use of Voxeo, a foreign company located in Florida, to tally the results of the Iowa caucus:

Subject: How was the Iowa Caucus Tallied?

Dear Sirs,

When I visited the headquarters of the Democratic Party in Des Moines last summer, I learned that the tally of the Iowa caucus had been "out-sourced" to a company in Atlanta, Georgia.

What this means is that the tallying of the Iowa caucus results was done over the telephone, using the touch-tone buttons, to enter the results from each caucus location…

I am interested in how this was done, and why. Why did the Democratic Party allow the crucial tally of the caucus results to be done by a company in Atlanta? Don't they trust their own math skills?

Can any of you provide any information about this matter?

Kind regards,

Christopher Bollyn

A person named Mike Milligan wrote back on behalf of Secretary of State Bauer:


Mike Milligan <milliganconsulting@mchsi.com> wrote:

Dear Christopher:

The Secretary of State forwarded me the email you sent to then on Monday, January 31, 2004 [sic] regarding the Iowa Caucuses.

Unfortunately you either received some incorrect information in your travels or are confused. The Iowa Democratic Party completed all of the caucus night tabulations in Iowa, in the Des Moines/Polk County Convention Center, which was the Caucus night HQ. In fact, our tech staff wrote the software that tabulated the results.

To answer your second to last question, we feel we have a comfortable grasp of mathematics.

Sincerely,

MWM

Mike Milligan, Executive Director
Iowa Democratic Party
(515) 244-7292 ex. 676

I wrote this note back to Mr. Milligan:


Dear Mr. Milligan,

I am responding to you about how the caucus results for the Iowa Democratic Party were tallied on the night of the nation's first caucus. After checking my sources, I can assure you that it is correct that an out-of-state telephone/computer system tallied the Iowa precinct results.

The system used was provided by Voxeo Corporation based in Orlando, Florida. The calls went from Iowa to a call center in Atlanta, Georgia.

See: http://www.voxeo.com/

This information was first provided to me last August by John McCormally, Communications Director for the Iowa Democratic Party in Des Moines, Iowa.

Today I called Voxeo (800) 305-5771 in Orlando and although I didn't go into detail, the receptionist confirmed that Voxeo had conducted the telephone tally of the Iowa Democratic Caucus results.

How is it that you don't know that?

McCormally told me that chairmen were selected in all 1,993 precincts and these chairmen called in on touch-tone phones and after giving their PIN number, were able to enter the results from their precinct using the touch-tone number pad.

I'm not going to go into great detail at this point, but this procedure of using an out-of-state computer company to tally the precinct results for the Iowa Democratic Caucus lacks the transparency and openness that one might expect in this exercise in grass-roots poll.

Clearly, if someone wanted to adjust the results, it would be the easiest thing to do to do it through this computer system in Orlando, Florida. The Democrats in Iowa would never be aware of it, regardless of their math skills, unless the paper results were carefully audited in an open and honest manner.

Christopher Bollyn

THE ISRAELIS & VOXEO

Now, who really is Voxeo, and why are the Iowa caucus results tallied by them? I don't know if the 2008 Iowa results will be tallied in the same way, but I wouldn't doubt it.

Voxeo is headed by Jonathan Taylor, who is the company's President and CEO. This is what his Voxeo webpage says about him:

Jonathan combined his experience in both business operations and technology innovation to found Voxeo in 1999. Under his guidance, Voxeo has seen triple-digit revenue growth for four consecutive years and has been profitable since January, 2004. Prior to Voxeo, Jonathan founded and helped bring three additional software and infrastructure service companies to profitability.

From 1995 to 1997, Jonathan was the founder and President of InterResearch and Development Group (IRdg), Inc. IRdg created and licensed iPost - the first internet powered OEM unified messaging solution - to leading telecommunications providers including Ericsson, Motorola and Unisys. IRdg was acquired by Elron Electronic Industries (Nasdq: ELRN) subsidiary MediaGate in 1997.

There you have it. Jonathan Taylor's company, which he founded, was taken over by Elron Electronic Industries, the Israeli defense high tech company:

In its early days, Elron focused on defense, particularly electronics and avionics, as well as the emerging medical and technology sectors. In 1966, Elron founded Elbit, which combined the expertise of the Ministry of Defense-Research Institute in special computer design with Elron's experience in electronic product design, manufacture and management.

Source: http://www.elron.net/default.asp?PageID=203

This is important information that Americans need to know and which they will not find in the Zionist-controlled media in the United States. It needs to be understood that the entire election process in the United States is a fraud. More than that, it is a fraud that is being perpetrated by the Israeli defense establishment on the naïve and gullible American public.

The sine qua non of an honest and transparent election process is the open counting of the votes by the voters themselves in each polling station in front of the open eyes of other citizens and members of the media. Any compromise in this most fundamental and essential process which acts to remove the citizenry from the vote-counting process simply cannot be accepted.

This is what Americans MUST get back to, in every polling station in the nation: paper ballots that are hand counted in front of the public.

Nothing else will do to protect their democratic franchise in the United States - NOTHING.

[DMac]

Ron Paul is being given his limited face time to maintain the status quo - the cooky old codger the young people like. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the fascists in power finish their election rigging work started in 2000 with this latest form of electronic warfare against the American people:


SCYTL Acquires SOE Software, Becoming the Leading Election Software Provider

SCYTL is based in Barcelona. Why are the Spaniards managing the US presidential election? No Americans want that job either, amirite??

[PatColo]

should cross link this here for posterity, Magnes' thread:
Thread: Bollyn, The Zionist Plot to Stop Ron Paul , INCREDIBLE !

Points to this Bollyn article -
http://www.bollyn.com/index.php#article_13410
can discuss it more specifically @ Magnes' thread ^


Today, Bollyn has posted this new one- perfectly on topic here:

The Reality of Electronic Vote Fraud in America


January 26, 2012

As this system is the only form and principle of government by which liberty can be preserved, and the only one that can embrace all the varieties of a great extent of country, it necessarily follows, that to have the representation real, the election must be real; and that where the election is a fiction, the representation is a fiction also. Like will always produce like.
- Thomas Paine to the Citizens of the United States, 29 January 1803

"WHERE THE ELECTION IS A FICTION"

While most Americans will vote on electronic voting machines in 2012, the public is generally unaware of how easy it is for an election to be stolen by the people who control these machines. This is the fundamental problem that has disenfranchised the American voter and has turned our elections into fiction. As Thomas Paine wrote in 1803, "where the election is a fiction, the representation is a fiction also."

The following three short video clips explain why a free people should not allow elections to be conducted using such machines. The simple and sure way to restore our democratic franchise is to return to hand-counted paper ballots which are openly counted in front of the public in each polling place. This is the absolutely essential element, the sine qua non, of open and transparent elections. This is what we must return to in every county in every state across the nation.

Two of the biggest voting machine companies, ES&S and Diebold, were set up by two brothers from Ohama, Robert and Todd Urosevich. The 2011 obituary of their mother, Helen Catherine Varda Urosevich, has been added at the end of this piece to help identify the Urosevich brothers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TdzlnwWsAAU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FPu...layer_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rMpQKqZhM

Endnote on Urosevich family of Omaha:

Helen Catherine Varda Urosevich
Urosevich, Helen Catherine Varda, Oct 24, 1923 – Mar 15, 2011

Age 87, born in Omaha. Preceded in death by parents, Louie and Thelma Varda, and grandson, Nicholas Varda Urosevich. Survived by husband, Steve Urosevich, Omaha; sons: Steve L. Urosevich and Donna Lawton, Omaha, Robert and Julie Urosevich of McKinney TX, Todd and Mary Urosevich; daughter, Sueann and Mike Devereaux, all of Omaha; sister, Dorothy Soland of Tucson, AZ. Helen was loved by 12 grandchildren and 21 great-grandchildren. Helen was an active member in the St. Nicholas Serbian Orthodox Church.

VISITATION with the family Thursday, 5pm-7pm, followed by a PRAYER SERVICE at the West Center Chapel. Private family interment, Evergreen Memorial Park. Memorials to St. Nicholas Serbian Orthodox Church or charity of your choice. HEAFEY-HEAFEY-HOFFMANN
DWORAK-CUTLER
WEST CENTER CHAPEL
78th & West Center 402-391-3900

Published in Omaha World-Herald from March 16 to March 17, 2011

[Shami-Amourae]