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    There is a thread here about Marc Stevens. This is the first time I have heard of him, and it caught my interest so I read his book. That woke me up a bit. I was aware of corruption in the justice system from reading Eustace Mullins, but I was not aware of what can be done about it until I read Mark Stevens book Adventures in Legal Land. It seems that the tyrants who rule us need our consent. But they have no obligation to protect us.

    Stevens makes a really good point in his book. Something that slips past most of us. None of us are allowed to steal our neighbor's property. Yet the government allows itself to do just that when they impose fines on us or seize our assets. If the government derives its power from the consent of the governed, and the governed are not allowed to steal from each other, where does the state get that power? Surely the governed cannot delegate a power to the government that they do not have themselves.

    What I awakened to is that the state is just a mental construct--not a tangible thing. What it does is the will of the people who 'operate' it for their own benefit under the guise of being representatives of the people. What the Occupy Wall Street movement calls the 1% is the state. There is no difference between the 545 people who are the US Federal Government and the corporations and banks and other moneyed interests they represent. The 99% they claim to represent are really their slaves,and the whole charade relies on the appearance of our consent to be their slaves. We need to behave in ways that smashes the appearance of that consent and see where that leaves them. You cannot threaten people with extreme violence and claim that you are governing with the consent of the governed. Being awake is being able to see that contradiction and communicating it to others. It's that simple.


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    Re: Notice any awakening?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara View Post
    Stevens makes a really good point in his book. Something that slips past most of us. None of us are allowed to steal our neighbor's property. Yet the government allows itself to do just that when they impose fines on us or seize our assets. If the government derives its power from the consent of the governed, and the governed are not allowed to steal from each other, where does the state get that power? Surely the governed cannot delegate a power to the government that they do not have themselves.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh6f5Go0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara View Post
    Stevens makes a really good point in his book. Something that slips past most of us. None of us are allowed to steal our neighbor's property. Yet the government allows itself to do just that when they impose fines on us or seize our assets. If the government derives its power from the consent of the governed, and the governed are not allowed to steal from each other, where does the state get that power? Surely the governed cannot delegate a power to the government that they do not have themselves.

    What I awakened to is that the state is just a mental construct--not a tangible thing. What it does is the will of the people who 'operate' it for their own benefit under the guise of being representatives of the people. What the Occupy Wall Street movement calls the 1% is the state. There is no difference between the 545 people who are the US Federal Government and the corporations and banks and other moneyed interests they represent. The 99% they claim to represent are really their slaves,and the whole charade relies on the appearance of our consent to be their slaves. We need to behave in ways that smashes the appearance of that consent and see where that leaves them. You cannot threaten people with extreme violence and claim that you are governing with the consent of the governed. Being awake is being able to see that contradiction and communicating it to others. It's that simple.


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    Another great book along these exact lines is "The Most Dangerous Superstition".

    http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous...9788543&sr=8-1

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    Re: Notice any awakening?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara View Post
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    What the Occupy Wall Street movement calls the 1% is the state. There is no difference between the 545 people who are the US Federal Government and the corporations and banks and other moneyed interests they represent. The 99% they claim to represent are really their slaves,and the whole charade relies on the appearance of our consent to be their slaves. We need to behave in ways that smashes the appearance of that consent and see where that leaves them.
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    Being awake is being able to see that contradiction and communicating it to others. It's that simple.

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    Excellent insight, Hatha. I have extracted my favorite part of your post, which ends with a challenging action statement. First see it, then communicate it. Group awareness is key, and I see it growing slowly but surely.

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    Re: Notice any awakening?

    Here's a good example of people waking up:

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-empty-stadium


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    Re: Notice any awakening?

    Sometimes I listen to the callers into the Washington Journal on C-Span. This morning the first caller said the campaign is meaningless, because the two-party system is the problem. Shortly after that, another guy called in to say that it things are on such a bad track that we are in for a rough ride regardless of who wins the presidency, so he had little interest in the election. The number of people who now see the futility of having any faith in the current corrupted political system is growing.

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    Re: Notice any awakening?

    Quote Originally Posted by PatColo View Post
    This is a handy little doohickey, can post to messagboards, will animate in emails etc, just copy/paste:

    The Strange, Free-Fall-Speed
    Collapse "Due To Fire" Of
    http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
    World Trade Center Building 7

    or alternatively,

    Architects & Engineers:
    http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
    Solving the Mystery of
    World Trade Center Building 7


    if they click it- it goes to ae911truth.org's page: http://architects-engineers.org which then auto-plays their 15 minute mini-documentary just released a few months ago around 9/11/11,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
    ^ why not make one of those WTC7 pics above into your email signature? Just copy/paste one of them into the place where you set up your email siggy. It will probably carry the ae911truth URL with the paste job, otherwise you may need to link it manually.

    anyways, here's a good Corbett report audio,

    16
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    Corbett Report Radio 070 – Overcoming Learned Helplessness

    Posted by Corbett


    Podcast: Download
    http://www.corbettreport.com/images/helplessness.jpg
    In 1965, Martin Seligman conducted a series of experiments showing that dogs could be conditioned into accepting electric shocks, even when they were easily avoidable. This is the essence of learned helplessness, and like so many other findings, it is easily applicable to our own situation. Humans, too, can learn to accept the “shocks” of corrupt governments or economic catastrophes or TSA groping or the NDAA or online censorship…but just as people can learn helplessness, they can learn the exact opposite. Join us tonight on Corbett Report Radio as we explore the solutions to the learned helplessness conundrum.
    Works Cited:

    How to Read the News
    Everything Seemingly Is Spinning Out of Control
    What You’ve Been Missing
    Operant Conditioning (Skinner box)
    Walden Two by B.F. Skinner
    Learned Helplessness – explanation
    Nicholas Christakis – TED Talk
    “I Am Fishead”
    Congressional approval hits another all-time low
    Why have no bankers been arrested?
    BASF to Stop Selling Genetically Modified Products in Europe
    FAKE "ELECTIONS" - Why Ron Paul Can't "Win"

    "If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth." -- E. Martin Schotz

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    Re: Notice any awakening?

    I saw a infowars.com sticker on a vehicle on my way into work this morning. Pretty ballsy. Not perfect but its a start...LOL
    There be fish in that there creek by'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Snake View Post
    “How can you disrespect the victims and their families by questioning 9/11?”

    His rebuttal could have been the commercial paid for by families of 9/11.
    How can you disrespect the victims and their families by not questioning 9/11?
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    Re: Notice any awakening?

    I heard this cat Douglas Dietrich on Coast to Coast last night. Anyone here ever heard of ATS? What say GSUS?

    NSFW, BOHICA and the music is too loud...
    Episode 1: Douglas Dietrich: 911 and The House of Saud

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPBD9QsEN4Y
    Uploaded by Thewormholes on Oct 7, 2009
    Douglas Dietrich breaks down 911 and The House of Saud

    1. Saudi Arabia: House of Saud, part 1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4EkGqb4mKE
    Uploaded by TheHistoryProfessor on May 22, 2009
    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?

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