ok, this is really my last one.

For everyone else who is interested in the commercial side of things, honour, dishonour, how to get superior standing over other claims such as Govt, cops, Tax depts, etc have a look at Winston Shrout. People promote his stuff as sovereign freeman redemption but it is not quite that. It's commerce. He is also interesting. A lot of people who do this stuff often don't grasp how powerful it can be. Winston does his stuff so that anyone who claims against him ends up paying him. The courts often pay him as well or instead of the other party. Remember he who brings the claim must also bring the remedy. Winston knows this and uses it.

You can find Winstons videos on google vid and I think YT. The Kelowna?? seminar is the best one. You need 5 or 6 hours. You need a note pad also.