Yes we saw the same thing in 2008. It was in 2008 that I realized Ron Paul wasn't trying to win the presidency. I mean he really gave up early there.

I'm still not sure that he's trying now, either. However, I appreciate the fact that he's trying to make everyone (in debates) sweat. He's making TPTB uncomfortable even if he isn't doing what I would do to unthrone them.

Yeah, Ron Paul hasn't accomlished EVERYTHING we wanted him to. But he's the only one talking about libertarian concepts at all, so he's good enough.