UFO War: Chinese and US Navy off San Francisco

[chad]

with all due respect, who is this gordon duff guy? i listened to the whole thing, he didn't even talk about the navy & ufo angle, even though that was the purpose of the whole hour. he laughed about it for like 15 seconds and implied it was to get attention. then he spent the whole hour talking about how he works for the "post office" sees reverse engineered alien ships, sometimes they let him talk, rambled on about aliens, etc. i don't get it.

[PatColo]

^ I since listened to that Rense/Duff hour. I just think Duff is more comic relief now than ever- somewhere here u can find where I wrote a couple paragraphs on my impression of Duff. He's still a frequent guest on (fellow VT writer) Kevin Barrett's show, in which case I don't listen to the hour. I give better than even odds to the probability that Duff is some sort of disinformation-ist. He earned some cred early on as a critic of izzy:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07...s-tv-interview
but since he's just gone off the rails;
http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff

What is striking is what a true believing UFO-logist Rense is- his Fri night shows are 3 hours of UFO guests, and they're also peppered around his mid-week shows as well.

[chad]

one thing i've noticed lately about jeff (and it makes me sad) is that i think his show must be dying. LOTS of the "interviews" are him just talking for an hour with one of the sponsors. the turtle tough guy, a food storage guy, etc.

he has always had monthly interviews with the be prepared guy, but now since charlie mcgrath is on the network, he has charlie's buyemergencyfoodsnow.com people on there. he just changes the show questions for which one he is "interviewing." some of his hours are not real interviews anymore, they're just a big log 1-hour ad.

[PatColo]

Mami's shit blog posts all of Rense's shows, in separate hour comm-free MP3s (making them ~42 mins). I prolly d/l a couple hours a week; that's out of 15 hours available. Most of the guests/topics just don't interest me. I lost interest in Duff awhile back, after enduring a few rambling hours of him, mostly on KBarrett's show. Duff is also frequent guest on (Iran's) Press TV.

[chad]

Mami's shit blog posts all of Rense's shows, in separate hour comm-free MP3s (making them ~42 mins). I prolly d/l a couple hours a week; that's out of 15 hours available. Most of the guests/topics just don't interest me. I lost interest in Duff awhile back, after enduring a few rambling hours of him, mostly on KBarrett's show. Duff is also frequent guest on (Iran's) Press TV.

just checked out mami's shit, never heard of it before, thx! i like it already, it makes fun of stadtmiller in the first post!

[PatColo]

^ u need to pay closer attention!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...no-commercials!

[PatColo]

this may have been posted hereabouts b4, if so- sorry!

Gordon Duff of Veterans Today Admits To Writing 40% False Information

It's a clip from a GD appearance as guest on Mike Harris' radio show, where among other things, he claims 40% of what he publishes is false- but he must do this to stay alive! Thing is, I watched this on Friday, however I just checked again, and YT says it's been removed due to copyright violation claim from Mike Harris! But I can vouch that it was there.

So GD was 2nd hour guest on KBarrett's T.J. Radio show on Fri 11/9. They get right into the "40% Disinfo" bit. GD claims the recording was "spliced together", & fraudulent. Also claimed it was created & spread by Frederick Toben- German holohoax denier (& OZ resident- they just bankrupted him through their courts, for "hate speech" or some such).

MP3 link, jump to top of 2nd hour:
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...32k-110912.mp3

KBarrett's blog entry:
http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/...n-lendman.html

[PatColo]

^ Duffy's denial of having made the "40% disinfo" claim is debunked here,

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/10/...harris_12.html

jump to 1:10:40 to hear him make the statement.

Also here's a comm-free version of the KB show above, wherein Duffy makes the denial,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/11/...n-barrett.html

[zap]

No No NO, they are not in Frisco, they are here.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2093003.html

Over the past few months -- between Aug. 1 and Oct. 15 -- more than 100 UFOs have been seen along the India-China border, and the sightings have officials puzzled.
The Times of India reported this week that "yellowish spheres appear to lift off from the horizon on the Chinese side and slowly traverse the sky for three to five hours before disappearing."
The Times of India added that the UFO sightings have stumped numerous Indian military groups, including their air force, NTRO technical intelligence agency and the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (as seen below).
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/854472/thu...AUFO-570.jpg?3
Army officials in charge of the 2,100-mile border between the giant Asian countries have reportedly ruled out Chinese drones or low-orbit satellites, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Members of the Indian ITBP sent reports to their Delhi headquarters, describing the spheres as Unidentified Luminous Objects, or ULOs, whether they're seen during the day or night.
After examining hazy photographs of the ULOs taken by the ITBP, army officials ruled out unmanned aerial vehicles, reports India Today.
In September, the Indian army brought a mobile ground-based radar unit and spectrum analyser to the top of a mountain near Pangong Lake between India and China.
According to India Today, while one of the ULO's was spotted visually, it wasn't picked up on the radar, which indicated it was non-metallic.
Also in September, a team of astronomers from the Indian Astronomical Observatory at Hanle observed the ULOs for several days. While they couldn't figure out exactly what the objects were, they ruled out meteors and planets.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/850868/thu...ERNS-570.jpg?4
Two years ago, the Indian air force looked into UFO sightings, eventually explaining them as Chinese lanterns (see example of some Chinese lanterns above).
And there have been other reports of luminous objects reportedly seen on the Chinese side of the border, India Today reported.
Even though scientists aren't sure what these ULOs are, they're not ready to consider them visitors from another planet.
"There is no evidence of the UFOs being of extraterrestrial origin," India Today quotes astrophysicist Jayant Narlikar. "The implication of them being alien objects is fancy, not fact."

[PatColo]

they're in denver- worth a watch, this made its way onto the TEEEVEEE NOOZ!!
Incredible UFOs Land and Launch Over Denver 2012 HQ