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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    Maybe consulting a lawyer would be a good idea. If you decide to take the shot, document it well. I would have a medical exam clearing myself from all known diseases suspected of being caused by vaccines prior to taking the shot. Then I would have the the vaccine procedure recorded on video. Make a statement on the video prior to administration of the vaccine that you don't want this vaccine, but are being forced to take it or you lose your job. Cover your ass!
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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    Mamboni, this is tough because if you do take the "semantics" route and "take" the vaccine, you are representing to your colleagues and patients that you accepted the treatment. How will you now be able to advise your patients against getting the vaccine? Every time you bring up the dangers/risks of the vaccine to your peers, they will simply remind you that you took it and call you a hypocrite. Think about the consequences of this semantics game, you may have to fake it for the rest of your practice. On the other hand, losing your medical practice is an incredibly high price to pay to publicly defy the establishment. Let me ask, do you really believe you would lose your practice? Is there a chance that they will acquiesce and not penalize you for refusing the shot?

    On another note, I want to applaud you for your comment in the OP. I'm going to print out a copy, keep it in my work bag, and when my colleagues ask why I don't take the shot (as happens every year), I will show them your letter.
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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    Quote Originally Posted by chad View Post
    one other thing i'd like to point out as well.

    this illustrates the game has changed.

    medical decisions are indeed now being made by bureaucrats, not doctors.
    It doesn't get any clearer than this, does it?
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    I am so sorry for your suffering concerning this matter.

    Am I permitted to ask you a very important, powerful question on here concerning this flu shot ?

    I won't ask it until you give me permission to do so, that's how intense the question is and
    I do not want to put you on the spot, ever, you're under enough stress.

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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    It is easy for people not in your shoes to suggest that you stand up and refuse . . . I get that. However, might you just give it some time and see how other professionals are treated upon refusal? I've learned some powerful lessons about NOT acknowledging my intentions immediately, sticking with my principles, but also allowing time to intervene. Sometimes things change in your favor.

    You have five years til retirement. Is this the time to slip out without a mark on your record as being a "refuser"? Maybe you can consult for another healthcare system, reinvent yourself as being self-employed and not in their line of fire?

    Explore your other options! Good Luck!
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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    I can't add anything to what's already been said but I do hate to see ya in this predicament and whatever course of action you take I wish you the very best Doc.
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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    Does their order violate a previous oath or any contract(s)?
    Lawyer up and game plan this out weighing all options and possible scenarios.
    Start your own practice and use the publicity in your favor.

    In short I'm saying take a STAND and FIGHT.

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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    Do what you know is right. Don't lie and sell your soul to keep your job.
    Straight up.

    This is a fight worth fighting for. It's huge.

    EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS FIGHT RESONATES TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    No to sound hyperbolic here Doc, but this may be THE opportunity of your lifetime. as a Dr. As a healer. As a MAN.

    The battle has come to you. And quite clearly delineated. You KNOW what's right. That in itself is an awesome weapon.

    You have what it takes to fight this horrible evil. Not only are you a Doctor and a man of conscience, you're also someone who can communicate with great strength, agility, humor and beauty. You can move people with words. You've moved me.

    Refuse the vaccination!! Go public! Tip their boat over. Drown the fucking rats. Take no prisoners.

    Whatever you decide though, I'm proud to have known you here online.
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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Herb Lady View Post
    I am so sorry for your suffering concerning this matter.

    Am I permitted to ask you a very important, powerful question on here concerning this flu shot ?

    I won't ask it until you give me permission to do so, that's how intense the question is and
    I do not want to put you on the spot, ever, you're under enough stress.
    Sure, ask away.
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    Sincerity makes the very least person to be of more value than the most talented hypocrite. -Charles Spurgeon

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    Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.

    Personally I would stand considering the opportunity to rout out those rat bastards and their Big Pharma lord, however I wouldn't hold it against you if you 'played along' (faked taking it).
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