new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

[Cebu_4_2]

Would have been around freezing.

[Cebu_4_2]

Considering the likelihood of 'body snatching' some airline passengers on 9/11/01 I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities of 'body snatching' 20 children and a few adults - considering we have such little evidence to draw reasonable conclusions from.

Pretty much what I mentioned a few pages back, organ donors since Israehell is into that sort of stuff. Medical records online, pick and choose the type they need and snatch em up. Not too far fetched IMO.

[sunshine05]

Considering the likelihood of 'body snatching' some airline passengers on 9/11/01 I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities of 'body snatching' 20 children and a few adults - considering we have such little evidence to draw reasonable conclusions from.

Yes, but then why so many parent actors? That's why I don't think they are real.

One thing I've thought about is the principal. The original script must have had her as a survivor but maybe she decided not to go along with this. As well, the original script had Nancy Lanza as a kindergarten teacher and they later changed that. There must be a reason for both of these things.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I think it's the central bankers and those who participate in the CFR and Bilderberg meetings.

These people are who we normally refer to as TPTB. They have the power and the money, so they get what they want. They have set up some sort of organization that is no doubt highly compartmentalized. One of those compartments is the Psy-Op function. This function would itself be compartmentalized into groups that formulate strategies, and develop programs and plans and even schedules for when to carry out certain events depending on many factors. This group would likely have no specific knowledge of how any of their plans or programs would be carried out. There would be another specialized and compartmentalized group that would be given portions of such plans and schedules (without any knowledge of who developed them) whose job would be to carry out those portions of the plans. This would be the group that recruits patsies, and arranges for the actual shooters, and cleans up after themselves by disposing of evidence and witnesses, as well as the patsies and anyone who could make the truth be known. And there would be another compartmentalized group responsible for 'public relations'. This would be a group that recruits actors, controls the media coverage, and writes the scripts for everyone given exposure by the media. A scheme like this would require unlimited amounts of money, and skill at extortion, and blackmail and the manipulation of loyalties. The secrecy would come from the compartmentalization of the activities. People in various different compartments would have no knowledge of how the whole operation is organized, nor about any other compartments. They would know that if they revealed anything about who recruited them, they would disappear. They would be paid very well for their 'services'. Anyone who has read any of Victor Ostrovsky's books--By Way of Deception, or The Other Side of Deception would have an idea of how the Mossad has recruited a worldwide network of 'sayanim' who participate in various different operations, but really know nothing about the overall plan.

There is a handful of people who know about all the various compartments and manage (plan, organize, staff, coordinate, control) them to get results. This group needs to be discovered. Probably not more than a dozen people. It is likely that the inner circles of TPTB would know who this group is. It is likely that they would have hundreds or even thousands of people they could trust to fill in any of these jobs if the current holders are compromised or gone.

It may not be so easy to dissolve the conspiracy that is doing this. If I remember correctly, the British uncovered a group in India around 1812 called the Thuggees who murdered and robbed people and made them disappear. They had been doing it for at least two centuries. They sent a Major General William Henry Sleeman to find these thuggees and to get rid of them. Sleeman found a large group of families participating in this, and the way he was able to extinguish them was to execute or imprison all the males of these families older than six years of age, so that they would not pass on their evil knowledge to their progeny to perpetuate their practices. This extinction took a whole generation. I doubt that the motives of TPTB are any more honorable than those of the Thuggees, but it is on a different scale because these people control the world's money.

Anyway, there is my $.02 worth of comment on who and what is pulling off all these murder/mystery/media dramas in front of our eyes today.


Hatha

[Son-of-Liberty]

The chair is in this photo.

[/QUOTE]

The straight down picture appears to be altered. The black splotches are too black and uniform and the edges too smooth to be equipment or even a black cloth placed over something they would want to hide. To me it looks like someone went in Photoshop and painted over what they were trying to hide with black and then blended or softened the edges slightly. There is no texture they appear completely flat. Compare that to the black car and you'll see what I mean.

The side angle shot could be equipment or bodies but whatever it is it certainly doesn't match the overhead photo.

[freespirit]

one thought that keeps nagging me with these photos...

if it is loose/extra equipment, what the hell is it doing right next to suspect's car inside the "crime scene" perimeter??!
that is blatant contamination of a crime scene, is it not?
Grisholm would be flippin' his wig if he was the CSI on this one...

[midnight rambler]

The thought occurs - Nancy Lanza had spent Tuesday and Wednesday night out of town, not returning home until Thursday evening reportedly getting back home around 5:30 PM - WHY didn't Adam Lanza commit the shooting while his mother was out of town?? WHY did he wait for her to return so he could (allegedly) kill her before his (alleged) massacre?? He could have chosen to spare killing the one living soul who loved him more than anyone else did, unconditionally, yet he (allegedly) waited for her to return so he could kill her too.

My theory: Adam didn't kill his mother, Nancy was a potential witness who would have undermined 'the official narrative' and therefore she had to be eliminated.

Nancy Lanza (just like everyone else who takes responsibility for themselves) should have had a good dog or two to alert her to intruders in her house.

[Tumbleweed]

The straight down picture appears to be altered. The black splotches are too black and uniform and the edges too smooth to be equipment or even a black cloth placed over something they would want to hide. To me it looks like someone went in Photoshop and painted over what they were trying to hide with black and then blended or softened the edges slightly. There is no texture they appear completely flat. Compare that to the black car and you'll see what I mean.

The side angle shot could be equipment or bodies but whatever it is it certainly doesn't match the overhead photo.[/QUOTE]




I looked at those things and have wondered what they are too. They do sort of look like soft rifle cases that may have been unzipped, a rifle removed then left laying on the pavement.

[Glass]

i think the images are altered as well. I went to getty images where you can search for images on this story. There are several other images of that scene taken from the air which also show the blacked out areas. Still doesn't look right but it isn't any clearer.

[Hatha Sunahara]

The thought occurs - Nancy Lanza had spent Tuesday and Wednesday night out of town, not returning home until Thursday evening reportedly getting back home around 5:30 PM - WHY didn't Adam Lanza commit the shooting while his mother was out of town?? WHY did he wait for her to return so he could (allegedly) kill her before his (alleged) massacre?? He could have chosen to spare killing the one living soul who loved him more than anyone else did, unconditionally, yet he (allegedly) waited for her to return so he could kill her too.

My theory: Adam didn't kill his mother, Nancy was a potential witness who would have undermined 'the official narrative' and therefore she had to be eliminated.

Nancy Lanza (just like everyone else who takes responsibility for themselves) should have had a good dog or two to alert her to intruders in her house.

I'd go a few steps beyond this speculation. Adam Lanza is a patsy (just like Lee Harvey Oswald and James Earl Ray). If he really is dead, he may have been killed along with his mother, and his body taken to the school and dumped there by the real killers (if there are any real killers), or he may have been manipulated into going to the school and killed there by the real shooters. No one has seen any photographs of any bodies--not the mother nor of the patsy. Nor any children, or school personnel. We have no way of telling if anything in this story is true. It could all be as real as the tears Obama shed in his press conference. Nobody is in custody (maybe Adam Lanza's brother is). Nobody was arrested or charged with anything. The Connecticut PR Trooper with the official cop hat tells everyone nothing is true unless it comes from him. So, this is truth by authority, not by facts or reason or evidence. Disbelief is a confrontation with authority, and subject to varying degrees of marginalization and official ostracism, if not excommunication or burning at the stake.

How hard do they have to work, how many resources must they call up to uphold a lie? Ultimately the truth is what you believe. If nobody believes it, it's not true. And really, in this instance, does it matter what is true? If you know (by your own reasoning) that they are lying, the emphasis shifts away from the 'truth' to 'why are they lying'? The answer there is obvious. It's their gun control agenda, and that is not flying. They have managed to trigger (no pun intended) a stampede to the gun dealers by people wanting to buy more guns. The only thing that could have succeeded for the people who put on this show was to divide the public and cause conflict between those who support the second amendment and those who would give it up for 'safety'. The next drama will be the legislation to ban guns--by a legislature that represents the people who bought the legislators, not the people who voted for them.

One thing that happens in all evil totalitarian regimes is that everyone if forced to choose between obeying their conscience or obeying authority that violates their conscience. You will be forced to choose between the courage of your convictions or going along with the evil. Silence is a choice you make to go along with the evil. The evil will only go away if everybody recognizes it, calls it out, and shoots back at it if necessary. It's not omnipotent. It's only real weapon is fear. Having the right to own guns is only the means for confronting a government gone evil. The other half is having a population that has courage to call out that evil government. If only 10% have that courage and are armed to the teeth, the evil government is powerless and will disappear.


Hatha