High Ranking US Major General Exposes September 11 High

[joboo]

The claim is he was able to prove it was a missile. Where did he prove anything aside from just giving his opinion about what he thinks it was?

[woodman]

The claim is he was able to prove it was a missile. Where did he prove anything aside from just giving his opinion about what he thinks it was?

Hundreds of professional pilots have voiced their opinion that nobody, not even a trained pilot could have pulled off the manuever the government claims this mystery jet, flown by untrained personell, supposedly pulled off. So who are we supposed to believe, Joboo and the lying government duo-citizens, or our own common sense?

[vacuum]

The point of this thread is that a retired general of 32 years is saying it wasn't done by terrorists.

[Serpo]

The claim is he was able to prove it was a missile. Where did he prove anything aside from just giving his opinion about what he thinks it was?

He is a high ranking general , I believe him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFewUG3rSY&feature=player_embedded#at=66

[Serpo]

Sad how after all these years he finds out he has been lied too............

Its has been obvious for sometime that ISRAEL DID 9/11

[joboo]

He is a high ranking general , I believe him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFewUG3rSY&feature=player_embedded#at=66

There's no doubt I believe he thinks what he thinks is true. Thing is, did he watch loose change, and listen to Alex Jones, and endless regurgitation's of that plastered across the net, and come to the same conclusions? That's the question.

He makes no new points, and provides no new evidence other than what everyone already knows found freely available on the internet. The problem is once you make a conclusion you will perceive any evidence to match it. That method of thinking is a trap imo.

[joboo]

Hundreds of professional pilots have voiced their opinion that nobody, not even a trained pilot could have pulled off the manuever the government claims this mystery jet, flown by untrained personell, supposedly pulled off. So who are we supposed to believe, Joboo and the lying government duo-citizens, or our own common sense?

The plane could have been auto piloted into that flight pattern, as indicated by reading the link I provided. It doesn't matter who thinks they could have flown that, the plane CAN fly that. Who cares who is flying it? You can't make the assumption the pilot was bad, so it's impossible if the whole terrorist narrative is a fabrication anyways right?


Guys....this information has been out since 2006. Where have you all been?

Some serious Alex Jones promoted Loose change deprogramming needs to take place with this line of thinking.

You may not be aware of it but it has affected your perception.

[joboo]

The point of this thread is that a retired general of 32 years is saying it wasn't done by terrorists.

Yes, and no. That way the interview was setup no, the big picture for this guy, yes. But why float out a total misconception when introducing him? It's wrong.

[mamboni]

http://christconquers.files.wordpres...-mural-van.jpg

Urban MOving SyStems IncorporAteD

Urban Moving Systems and Detained Israelis

2 found with video of Sears Tower

Michelle Mowad, Special to The Mercury October 17, 2001

PLYMOUTH -- Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal imigration authorities after being found with detailed footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago. Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno on the 1000 block of West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping, according to reports. A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed backed up to the dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the dumpster, according to police. The manager confronted the vehicle's operator, a Middle Eastern man, police said. The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike, according to police. The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read "Moving Systems Incorporated" and included a phone number, police said. The area was searched by township police, and the vehicle was spotted parked on the curb in front of John Kennedy ford on Ridge Pike, Just west of Industrial Way. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/sears.html

[JohnQPublic]

Deeper Shades of Mossad – Urban Moving Systems and the Exploding Mural Van September 25, 2011

Addendum: It has come to my attention that some folks are trying to pass the above image [Image opn Mamboni's post- JQP] off as a genuine photo of the real ‘mural van’. It is not. It is merely an approximation; a graphic representation of what the truck may have looked like, according to the available eyewitness descriptions of the real truck. Listening to the audio, obviously the real truck exploded that day… so I’m not sure how anyone could think that this was actually a real photo. What? Like Mossad just took a picture of their handiwork and just threw it up on Facebook or something? Come on! The real truck most likely didn’t have Urban Moving Systems emblazoned across the side either… but you never know.

The image was made specifically for the video below, simply to visually drive home the sheer insanity of the people who would dare to do such a thing. Personally after a great deal of thought, I’m leaning towards thinking that this had to be a diversion for something else. Perhaps more than one something else… Were truck bombs used at the WTC towers as well? There were reports of exactly that on the news from that day. Something other than planes caused huge explosions in the twin towers that day. Of that much I’m quite certain.

(Video mentioned here):



The 9/11 Mural Van: Rabbit Hole or Memory Hole?

...a man named Robert Stanford, who was the Emergency Coordinator for the New York City District Amateur Radio Emergency Service recorded several hours of police and fire radio transmissions, including this: http://web.archive.org/web/200811300...udio/wtc10.wav
Shortly after the 3:00 mark, you can hear the following:
“the plane just exploded in the air”
“explosives on King and 6th Avenue”
“one of those remote controlled planes filled with explosives”
Note that King and 6th Avenue is well away from the unfolding disaster further downtown at the World Trade Center.
After many requests for information about “that remote controlled plane,” at 5:16 the events get even stranger:
“It’s a big truck with a mural painted of an airplane diving into New York City and exploding. Don’t know what’s in the truck. The truck is in between 6th and 7th on King Street.”
“with a mural painted .. .airplane .. diving into New York blowin up .. two men got out of the truck .. ran away from it, we got those two under”
“good good”
“you got those… you holding those two guys?”
“got them under let’s get some units…”
“…fucking beat the shit out of them…”
“you alright over there?”
“we have both suspects under… we have the suspects who drove in the van, the van exploded, we have both of them under, let’s get some help over here”
“I’m sending you ESU there, I just wanted to make sure you and your guys all right over there”
“we have both of the …driven .. that exploded …”
“what location?”
“King Street between 6th and Seventh”...

...The few sites that do mention the story tend to use a graphic (and somewhat ridiculous) representation of the van and present it as a photo of the actual van....