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    Re: Pope Benedict surprises world, steps down citing frailty

    I must have ADD or something, but that guy was talking way too slow to keep my attention
    Well, if you couldn't make it to the end I'll go ahead and spoil it for you. The Pope before this Pope will be the next Pope.
    John Paul II will be possessed by a fallen angel and rise from the dead, or something like that.
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    Most of our new priests come from Africa, Asia, and some from Latin America.
    Probably not in the Orthodox church. It is only the Western church in a state of terminal decline.

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    And 3 times 3 is 9, and you have right now three times nine in your thanks count. Coincidence? I think not!

    Anyhow, the thunder strikes could have been the effect of weather modification technology, maybe?
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    Here is an interesting video that looks at some biblical prophecy in a different light. Is it true? We will soon find out!
    Are you convinced now, that the same Roman Catholics who wrote the Bible, are the same Roman Catholics following the Bible today?

    Or do we have to wait for the next Pope?

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    Re: Pope Benedict surprises world, steps down citing frailty

    Breaking News: February 14, 2013 – Pope Benedict to Seek Immunity

    February 14, 2013 17:44 in General by Tony Z
    Breaking News: February 14, 2013
    Pope Benedict to seek immunity and protection from
    Italian President
    Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 -
    International Tribunal calls on Napolitano to “not collude in criminality”, and announces global campaign to occupy Vatican property and launch human rights inquiry in Italy
    Media Release from The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State – Brussels
    Rome (9 am local time):
    Pope Benedict, Joseph Ratzinger, has scheduled a meeting with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano for Saturday, February 23 to discuss securing protection and immunity from prosecution from the Italian government, according to Italian media sources.
    Ratzinger’s meeting follows upon the apparent receipt by the Vatican of a diplomatic note from an undisclosed European government on February 4, stating its intention to issue an arrest warrant for Ratzinger, who resigned from his pontificate less than a week later.
    In response to the February 23 meeting, the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS), through its field Secretary, Rev. Kevin Annett, has written to President Napolitano, asking him to refrain from assisting Ratzinger in evading justice.
    The ITCCS letter states, in part,
    “I need not remind you, Mr. President, that under international law and treaties that have been ratified by Italy, you and your government are forbidden from granting such protection to those like Joseph Ratzinger who have aided and abetted criminal actions, such as ordering Bishops and Cardinals in America and elsewhere to protect known child rapists among their clergy.
    “Your obligation to the Vatican through the Lateran Treaty does not negate or nullify the requirements of these higher moral and international laws; nor does it require that you give any protection or immunity to a single individual like Joseph Ratzinger, especially after he has left his papal office.”
    A copy of the complete text of the ITCCS letter follows.
    In response to the documented crimes of child torture, trafficking and genocide linked to Pope Benedict and Vatican officials, the ITCCS will be sponsoring a series of ongoing protests and occupations of Roman Catholic churches and offices through its affiliates around the world beginning in Easter week, March 24-31, 2013, and continuing indefinitely.
    These actions will accompany the legal efforts to bring Joseph Ratzinger and other Vatican officials to trial for their proven complicity in crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.
    The Easter Reclamation Campaign will seize church property and assets to prevent their use by child raping priests, who are protected under Catholic canon law. Citizens have this right to defend their communities and children when the authorities refuse to do so, under international law.
    Rev. Kevin Annett and an official delegation from the ITCCS Central Office will also be convening a formal human rights inquiry in Rome commencing the week of May 13, 2013, to consider further charges against the Vatican and its new Pope for crimes against humanity and obstruction of justice.
    Rev. Annett and his delegation will be working with organizations across Italy in this investigation. In 2009 and 2010, he held rallies outside the Vatican and met with media and human rights groups across Italy to charge the Vatican with the death of more than 50,000 aboriginal children in Canada.
    - MORE: (LINK)>
    For more information contact ITCCS and Rev. Annett at itccscentral@gmail.com and see www.itccs.org
    Copy of letter to President Napolitano
    An Open Letter and Appeal to Giorgio Napolitano, President of the Republic of Italy
    from Rev. Kevin D. Annett, Secretary of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State
    14 February, 2013
    Al Presdente della Repubblica Italiana
    Giorgio Napolitano
    Presidenza della Repubblica
    c/o Palazzo del Quirinale
    00187 Roma
    Italia
    Dear President Napolitano,
    On behalf of our Tribunal and people of conscience everywhere, and of the millions of victims of church abuse, I am making an appeal to you regarding your upcoming meeting with Joseph Ratzinger, who will retire soon as Pope Benedict, the Pontiff of the Church of Rome.
    Our understanding is that, in the wake of pressure to have him resign his office because of his proven complicity in concealing child trafficking in his church and other crimes against humanity, Joseph Ratzinger is seeking the assistance of the Italian government in securing protection and immunity from legal prosecution.
    I need not remind you, Mr. President, that under international law and treaties that have been ratified by Italy, you and your government are forbidden from granting such protection to those like Jospeh Ratzinger who have aided and abetted criminal actions, such as ordering Bishops and Cardinals in America and elsewhere to protect known child rapists among their clergy.
    Your obligation to the Vatican through the Lateran Treaties does not negate or nullify the requirements of these higher moral and international laws; nor does it require that you give any protection or immunity to a single individual like Joseph Ratzinger, especially after he has left his papal office.
    The need for you to abide by international law and not be seen to collude with Joseph Ratzinger is even more true when one considers the enormity of the crimes of which the Vatican and its highest officials are clearly guilty, according to considerable evidence gathered and documented by our Tribunal and other groups, and acknowledged by many governments.
    In Canada alone, the Roman Catholic Church and its Vatican agents have been found guilty of responsibility for genocide and the deaths of at least 50,000 aboriginal child children in the Jesuit-initiated Indian residential school system, that operated until 1996.
    In Ireland, more than 10,000 women suffered and were exploited in the Catholic-run Magdalene Laundries, where many of them died. Similar church-run institutions all over the world have caused enormous mortality, disease and ruination for millions of children. And yet the church has never been held accountable or prosecuted for these deaths and the theft of enormous wealth from entire nations.
    With the recent initiative of at least one European government and a host of lawyers to bring Joseph Ratzinger and other church officials to trial for these crimes, we feel it is incumbent on you neither to assist nor to be seen to assist or condone the attempt by him to evade, obstruct or delay justice, lest you open yourself to a charge of being an accessory to a crime.
    On behalf of our Tribunal and of many people who cannot speak, I call on you to stand on the law of nations and humanity, and offer no support or protection to Joseph Ratzinger or his accessories in their efforts to evade responsibility for their proven crimes.
    I look forward to your reply, and to discussing this with you more when I visit your country in May with a human rights delegation to investigate this matter more closely.
    Sincerely,
    Kevin D. Annett, M.A., M.Div.
    Secretary, The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State
    Central Office, Brussels
    cc: world media
    http://itccs.org/
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    Re: Pope Benedict surprises world, steps down citing frailty

    Roman Church admits the Pope’s Guilt!!! – Syncrenicity Strikes!

    February 15, 2013 23:16 in General by Tony Z
    Exclusive Breaking News: Friday February 15, 2013 12 midnight GMT
    Roman Church admits the Pope’s Guilt: Joseph Ratzinger to Evade Justice and Hide out in the Vatican for his own legal immunity and “protection”
    An Urgent Update from the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS) – Brussels
    Rome:
    In a statement to Reuters today, Vatican officials announced that Joseph Ratzinger will remain a permanent resident of Vatican City after his resignation. Doing so will offer him legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources said today
    “His continued presence in the Vatican is necessary, otherwise he might be defenseless”.
    This startling admission of guilt by the church is also a direct obstruction of justice, and lends more weight to the charge by the ITCCS and others that the Vatican has arranged with the Italian government to shield Ratzinger from criminal prosecution, in violation of international laws ratified by Italy.
    Commentary
    The Vatican decided today to give permanent sanctuary to a proven war criminal by allowing Joseph Ratzinger to obstruct justice and evade prosecution for crimes against humanity. And the government of Italy is colluding in this abrogation of international law.
    This decision validates our claims about the criminal conspiracy surrounding Ratzinger and his Vatican co-conspirators. It also makes it clear that the Vatican is a rogue power that is flaunting every law to conceal its own criminality.
    In response, the ITCCS calls upon its affiliates and all people of conscience to use our upcoming Easter Reclamation Campaign to converge on Rome and the Vatican to force the extradition of Ratzinger from Vatican City, and place him and his accessories on trial for crimes against humanity.
    Commencing Sunday, March 24, 2013, our activists and others will begin an escalating series of Catholic church occupations and seizures of church property to bring about Ratzinger’s extradition and reclaim stolen wealth from the criminal corporation known as Vatican Inc. – in the name of the legion of their victims, both living and dead.
    .. and from Kevin Annett – The Rat Scurries Back to Vat!
    Those whom the gods destroy, they first drive insane. Especially, it seems, in Rome.
    Why would the oldest and wealthiest institution on our planet deliberately prove what its critics say about it, by first tossing their leader, a proven crook, out of his office after he’s threatened with arrest, and then giving him shelter to avoid prosecution? That’s the kind of panic and illogic displayed by a junior document-shredder, not a credible or wise body of men.
    And that gives all of us hope.
    Rome’s incredible admission that they can’t have the Pope stand trial has strengthened our cause and legitimacy enormously, proving that no matter how big is your guilty opponent, provoking him for long enough will cause him to destroy himself by his own fear and stupidity.
    Protecting Ratzinger within the walls of the Vatican may halt justice for a moment, but it violates a basic rule of warfare, which is to never give your enemy a permanent focus for their attack. Ratzinger, the evil Emperor, now a permanent fixture in the Vatican? The absurdity of offering such an ongoing focus to the civilized world’s hatred of catholic criminality is also a sign that the church is adrift and improvising. But it also shows how genuinely worried is the Vtaican about the legal offensive mounted by our affiliates, lawyers for torture survivors, and the International Criminal Court.
    The Vatican is pulling out all stops to keep Ratzinger out of court. Their loyal, one-man owned Italian media is assaulting the crap out of yours truly and our ITCCS these days, playing the “Deny, Distract and Discredit” strategy of any damage-controlling corporation.
    Tottering Liz Windsor, aka Queen of England, is making a special and unprecedented trip to Rome on March 6 to kiss the ring, or other parts, of the new CEO of Vatican Inc. And Italian President Napolitano is meeting with President Obama today in Washington to undoubtedly line up more American backing for the Pontiff – not that Obama needs much encouraging, having stood loyally behind Ratzinger’s claim of “diplomatic immunity”.
    But all to no avail, ultimately. When the Bloody Emperor stands naked, only our illusions keeps him protected and immune from the final accounting that is coming.
    The tornado that followed my first exorcism outside the Vatican in 2009, and the lightning that struck it on the day of Benedict’s resignation, were not accidental. Joe Ratzinger should know from the history of his own former SS buddies that criminal institutions can run, but they can’t hide – even behind all the wealth and pomp in the world.
    Prepare for Easter! Flush the Rat from the Vat!
    Stay tuned for plans of the Easter Reclamation Campaign at this website – itccs.org - Source
    http://www.syncrenicity.com/2013/02/...icity-strikes/



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    Re: Pope Benedict surprises world, steps down citing frailty

    I still think this whole thing is the zionist/satanist descendents of the pharisees finally consuming the church.

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    Re: Pope Benedict surprises world, steps down citing frailty

    There's a sex scandal controversy that's forcing him out. I'm 99% sure. I'll let you guys fill in who would be involved so some people don't selectively freak out again.
    It was time to move on. Too many jello head moonbats with personality issues post on this forum.

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    From an email (from this site: http://moynihanreport.itvworking.com/ )

    "Well," I said. "Thanks for talking with me. I want to ask you about the 300-page dossier of the three cardinals. The results of the investigation by Cardinals Julian Herranz, Josef Tomko e Salvatore de Giorgi.

    (The Caffe San Pietro, a few steps from the Vatican press office. I met there on Sunday, after the Pope's last angelus, with Ignazio Ingrao, journalist for the Italian weekly Panorama, a widely read secular newseekly in Italy)

    "All the recent articles about what the dossier contains, including the La Repubblica article on Thursday, February 21, by Concita De Gregorio, which was then picked up so dramatically by the world press, trace back to your article in Panorama, excerpts of which were published on the internet two days earlier, on February 19, though the actual date of the issue in which the article appeared is February 27. And now the Vatican has issued a communique denouncing the media for running articles not based on fact, aimed at influencing the Conclave. So I'm trying to pause and go back a bit here, to see how all this developed."

    I pulled the magazine out of my briefcase and put it on the table.

    "I just want to know more about how you found out about the contents of the dossier."

    "No problem," Ignazio said. "But I have another appointment at 1:30, so we only have about half an hour."

    A waiter came up.

    "Due cappuccini," Ignazio said.

    "E un cornetto semplice," I added. (A "cornetto" is a small, sweet brioche with a thick center and two pointed ends, one on each side, giving it the shape of a "horn," which is what the word "cornetto" means.)

    (A pile of fresh "cornetti" in an Italian cafe)

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    "Well," I said. "Did you actually see the report?"

    "No."

    "You never set eyes on it?"

    "No."

    "Then how could you report on its contents? Did you talk with one of the three cardinals?"

    "No, it wasn't like that," Ignazio said.

    "My work was a careful work of reconstruction. I had been interested in the dossier for a long time, of course, and when the Pope resigned on February 11, my interest only increased. I very systematically sought out people in the Curia I thought might have been interviewed, and I spoke to them, one by one."

    "How many?" I asked.

    http://staticapp.icpsc.com/icp/loadi...663/image/jpeg(Ignazio Ingrao, the Italian journalist who broke the story about the contents of the secret 300-page cardinals' dossier that was given to the Pope on December 17, and was said to have shocked him so much that it contributed to his decision to resign, announced on February 11)

    "About 15," he said. "I asked them what the interview sessions were like, what the line of questioning was, and even, what their answers were. It was like working on a jig-saw puzzle.

    "Bit by bit, I began to have the outlines of a picture. I could see what the cardinals were looking for. They wanted to know something about the cities where the monsignors were born, in what seminaries they had studied, who else in the Curia they knew from their cities and from their seminaries, what religious order they were in -- Salesian, Franciscan, Dominican, Jesuit -- whether they had studied at the Vatican's diplomatic academy..."

    "Ok," I said. "That's clear enough. You say that in your article. You write: 'The report gives a photograph of the geographic currents, linked to the city or the region one comes from'... But you also write: 'But perhaps the part of the report that most shocked the Pope was the one that brought to light the existence of a network of friendships and of blackmailings against a backround of homosexuality, which is very present in some sectors of the Curia.' ('Ma forse la parte del rapporto che piu ha scioccato il Papa e quella che ha portato alla luce l'esistenza di una vera e propria rete di amicizie e di ricatti a sfondo omosessuale che e molto presente in alcuni settori della curia.')

    (Below, the actual article by Ignazio Ingrao from the February 27 Panorama, which sparked a series of other reports in the world's media, and then led the Vatican Secretariat of State to issue a statement warning against media speculation and distortion. The title sayd: "The Secret Dossier Will Condition the Conclave." The parts of the article I cite below are on the second page, especially the lines at the bottom of the first and the top of the middle column)

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    (First page of the article)

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    (Second page of the article)

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    "And you write: 'Some actually go so far as to call it the "gay lobby" of the Vatican.'

    "But then," I said, "you use the word sarebbe, in the subjunctive.

    "You say, 'this lobby sarebbe' (is said to be, or is thought to be, or is supposed to be, or should be) 'by far the most extensive and influential of all those present in the Vatican dicasteries.' ("Qualcuno si spinge addirittura a definirla la 'lobby gay' del Vaticano, che sarebbe di gran lunga la piu ramificata e influente di tutte quelle presenti nei dicasteri vaticani.")

    "You even say that the report gives the first and last names of the members of this lobby.

    "What evidence do you really have that the report actually say this?"

    Ignazio didn't miss a beat. He was cool and collected.

    "The theme of the gay lobby emerged because a few of the people who were questioned by the cardinals told me that the questions that they were asked were about this aspect," he said. "So, the commission explored this theme in depth. Especially in regard to the influence this could have in the exercise of authority in the Curia."

    "So you do not think you are simply speculating here?"

    "It was clear," Ignazio said. "The cardinals were specifically interested in this point. I heard this from several sources. I did not consider anything valid if I heard it from one source only. I required at least two or three sources telling me the same thing. If I heard it from two or more sources, if my sources confirmed one another, I knew I was hearing something with a basis in fact."

    "But then," I said, "you still did not really know if this was really a factor in the Pope's decision to resign. Or did you?"

    "I did," Ignazio said.

    "How?"

    "Because of the entire context, because of the dates, because tof the way everything unfolded. The Pope is the head of the Curia, and depends on the Curia, but last year it happened that papers were stolen from his very desk. His entire work was undermined. And so he asked the commission of three cardinals to investigate into the Curia, and they did so, for many months. Then, when they submitted their results, only seven weeks passed by before the Pope resigned. Of course, we cannot say that the report alone prompted the resignation. The Pope has an awareness of the situation of the Church throughout the world, going far beyond the Curia. But I think we have to say that the report played a role in the resignation decision."

    "But you don't actually know that the Pope was shocked by the report..."

    "Well, I wrote 'forse' ('perhaps')," Ignazio said. "Perhaps the part of the report that most shocked the Pope was the one that brought to light the existence of a network of friendships and of blackmailings against a background of homosexuality, which is very present in some sectors of the Curia..."

    "Ok, I see," I said. "By saying 'forse' you took your distance from that assertion..." I paused. "And in the last part of the sentence, where you say homosexuality is 'very present' in 'some sectors' of the Curia?"

    "That emerged from conversations with witnesses. It is what they told the commission of cardinals."

    Our time was nearly up. We sipped our coffee and I ate my cornetto.

    "Tell me a little about yourself," I said. "Panorama is a secular magazine, generally anti-clerical. Are you a Catholic?"

    "I'm a Catholic, born in Rome, raised in Rome," he said. "I'm married and I have two children, eight years old and six years old. I believe in the importance of the spiritual dimension, of the sacred. And I love the Church. But I also love the truth. In everything I write, that is my goal, my only goal: the truth."

    "What about the decision to promote Balestrero to be nuncio in Colombia?"

    "Well, they say it wasn't a sudden decision, that it took some weeks, that the government of Colombia had to be informed and to accept the nomination. But there is no doubt that the appointment was in some ways not in keeping with ordinary Church procedures. Normally, a Vatican monsignor has a certain development in his career, according to a rather precise time-table: first one or two minor assignments abroad, five year in Africa, five years in Latin America, then five years in Rome, sometimes more, and then a major assignment, like becoming a nuncio. But he was moved at least two years early. This is, in any case, a bit unusual."


    "One thing I really like about you article," I said, "was the last sentence. You write: 'But for the majority of the electors, it is already clear that from the Sistine Chapel must exit a Pope who cannot be blackmailed so that he can proceed to that action of purification that Ratzinger has entrusted to his successor.' ('Ma per la maggior parte degli elettori è già chiaro che dalla Cappella Sistina dovrà uscire un Papa non ricattabile per poter procedere a quell'azione di pulizia che Ratzinger ha affidato al successore.')

    "Thanks," Ignazio said. "We are in agreement. The Pope should not have his hands tied."

    "Absolutely. Totally agree," I said. "Great talking to you. I appreciate it."

    "Any time," he said.

    =============================

    Later, I ran into an Italian jounalist friend, and mentioned that I had spoken to Ingrao and that he had stood by his story.

    "His story was ultimately based on the work of an Italian priest, don Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo, who came out with an explosive book last year on this subject. That's the real source of this story. They say that all the cardinals received copies of his book, even Cardinal Herranz, the head of the commission of three cardinals which prepared the secret dossier given to the Pope on December 17."


    "You're kidding," I said.

    "Do you have his phone number?" I said.

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