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    Abandoning support for The Ugly Truth podcasts

    I've decided to cut TUT blog & podcasts from my repertoire, and to cease promoting or linking to their spew anywhere in the future. AFAIC, they've pulled a defacto "40% Disinfo Duff" on their base.

    A big crack in my confidence in them was formed resulting from their Jan 13 podcast, see this post:
    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    On Feb 18 I posted this lengthy critique of TUT's shtick surrounding S.Hook skepticism, as a comment at the Mami's blog entry for the most recent Mike Piper podcast - see third comment down,
    http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blo...53427238846269

    which reads:

    Anonymous said...

    The TUT blog guys continue to alienate me with their coordinated & nauseatingly ongoing 'anti-Sandy-Hook-skepticism' campaign, spearheaded by Glenn, Piper & Tillawi.

    Main problem AFAIC is their 'must protect our movement from ridicule!' argument is thin at best, in spite of all their emothional puffery of it. And their main 'instrument of persuasion' in making their case since the start has been... drumroll... RIDICULE. Their campaign basically launched a preemptive ad-hom attack against all who may be tempted to explore the S.Hook-skepticism avenue of inquiry, or to converse with others about it, GASP!

    It was Jan 13 that they put up their unusual tri-hosted Tillawi/Glenn/Piper podcast:

    http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/20...i-jan-13-2013/

    ...which banged the ad-hom/ridicule drum right from the word 'GO', reaching even those who passed by but didn't listen to the podcast, via their short TUT podcast description which reads, "The kookery of the various Sandy Hook conspiracy theories and how it is being exploited by the JMSM to label all ‘truthers’ as crazies". Resorting to use of JMSM thought-control buzzwords like those bolded, when communicating to 'your allies', is very bad form!

    In that podcast they belabor how "we" shouldn't "go there", out of concern for magically somehow "discrediting" all the other past (non-sequitur!) issues of concern to truthers/patriots/pick-your-label for whatever this "we" thing is supposed to be. And they gang up on caller/guest Jim Fetzer (an S.Hook-skeptic) through about 1/2 the show. This podcast rolling out their 'anti-Sandy-Hook-skepticism' campaign was a resounding flop with loyal listeners, as reflected in the comments you can read at the TUT link above.

    Then despite some early words from the TUT gang about wanting to put the issue behind them and ignore/'remain above it' from then on; they haven't. Virtually every podcast I've heard since, including this Feb 17 Piper show, they spend a good chunk of time berating S.Hook skepticism, ridiculing & beating the straw out of their own straw man arguments which cite the most extreme of the alt-theories (IE, "S.Hook was 100% hoax") eminating from the diverse population of folks trying to better reconcile the official narrative with the known facts.

    In Glenn's most recent podcast Feb 15(?), he feigns a 'semi-retarded Southerner' accent in reciting the "...was 100% hoax" strawman, in wielding his ridicule sword against all S.Hook skepticism. This same sort of ridicule gambit has been the core of their 'anti-Sandy-Hook-skepticism' campaign all along. Not credibly-sourced REASON, no... TUT gang has studiously avoided that; rather, they've sought to deter (weaker minds) almost solely by beating their ad-hom/ridicule drum, ad nauseum.

    What they seem to have failed to consider when deciding on their 'TUT-united campaign strategy' for their appeal to 'maintain our movement's cred by giving the official S.Hook narrative a pass' is: their targeted 'select audience of truthers/patriots/anti-zio's/etc' are, categorically by their nature & experience, already largely immune to such cynical appeal-to-emotion/ridicule inquiry/thought-deterrent attempts. Otherwise we'd still be FAUX News Channel marinating sheeple. We EXPECT such gambits to be wielded against us by our enemies, and for us it serves as instant confirmation that our enemies have no compelling reason-based case. All that's already baked into the cake-- but we don't expect our ostensible allies to engage in such cynical manipulation attempts, esp accompanied by the near-total lack of a credible/compelling reason-based case, as has been the situation with the TUT gang's campaign.

    As to the thin strand of a 'case' which the TUT gang has so laboriously puffed up, namely the 'fear of how the JMSM might label & marginalize us all' angle; I submit, "yeah, WE KNOW, next case... " When in Glenn's recent podcast he noted how Limbaugh had recently, as GlennCo astutely predicted, conflated S.Hook skeptics with 911 Truthers and sought to give the lot of us JMSM ridicule treatment; my first thought was, what took Limbaugh this long? I certainly wasn't concerned with any negative consequences from JMSM's utterly predictable approach to SLOWING the opposition to their S.Hook/gun-control psy-op!!

    Taking 911 Truth as an example, ask yourself: has zion.media.gov's ad-hom/ridicule/marginalization campaign against the movement worked? It's only worked in SLOWING the weaker minded demographic from waking up, sure- no question. But has it stopped/silenced, or reversed the growth of the 911 TM? NOPE, quite the contrary. You and I both jumped zion.media.gov's mind-control coral at some point between 9/11/01 and today, because we checked out the evidence which the 911 TM 'nutjobs' [per zion.gov's JMSM] had assembled and made available, almost entirely via the internet. And as we 'awakened Truthers' well know: there's no putting that Truth Genie back in the bottle once it's escaped. So 911 TM growth only moves in one direction, with JMSM only acting as speed bumps.

    Now compare that with where we'd be today, had early 911 skeptics layed low for the exact reasoning GlennCo appeal to Sandy Hook skeptics to censor ourselves today: fear of how 'they' might ridicule 'us' [GASP!]. So therefore imagine we didn't share knowledge, or engage in activist outreach; but rather we just politely, meekly handed zion.media.gov carte blanche in the info war.

    Would there be MORE, or FEWER 'awakened [911] Truthers' today? We all know the answer; we'd be lucky ourselves respectively to be 'awake' & conversing today. 911T would've just rolled over and handed 'them' the win, without a fight!

    S.Hook was/is 'The 9/11 of Gun Control'. Regardless of where you stand on the veracity of zion.gov's official S.H. narrative; there's no denying that their post-event management of perceptions has been full-on psyop-- S.H. families in presidential photo ops; singing at Superbowl and Oscars, etc. And they're rushing through new gun-grab legislation while the S.H. evidence all remains 'sealed'-- ala the post-911 Patriot Act. NO WAY! Credible, academically rigorous S.Hook skepticism work can be found at, for example, Prof. James Tracy's blog at

    http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/sandy-hook-elementary

    So to wrap up, I propose GlennCo abide by their mid-Jan expressed wish to ignore/'remain above it' WRT their anti-S.Hook-skepticism campaign. From my perspective, the campaign has been a flop; it'll remain a flop; and it's time to 'quietly' drop it. Coz if I keep hearing future 'see, TUT told yuh the JMSM was gonna [fill in utterly predictable JMSM tact here]' updates, I'm gonna have to shut off the podcast and perhaps tune out TUT altogether. I obviously don't want that, as evidenced by my composing this wordy appeal; but if the TUT campaign doesn't end- I could not reconcile that with the notion that TUT are my 'allies' in Truth and resistance to Jewish Supremacist Tyranny/JWO. They only "hurt TUT" by staying this unsuccessful course.

    February 18, 2013 at 5:20 AM
    I initially posted the above only at Mami's comments, but didn't yet paste it over to TUT blog comments, as the comments there are moderated and I expected it was unlikely they'd accept it. And I wanted to see how it was received there at Mami's unmoderated comments. It received several affirmative comments from others there.

    So yesterday I submitted it to [the moderation queue at] TUT comments on their entry for
    http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/20...st-feb-19-2013
    ^ a podcast which enshrines the official zio-myths about their own "Operation Gladio" style mass-shooting psyops.

    ... and I've just confirmed that the comment was indeed rejected/censored, in favor of their approved/thought-gate-kept comments all pretending that Lanza/etc did the evil deeds which zion.media.gov have attributed to them.

    TUT/GlennCo can & do continue their 100% ad-hom/ridicule based anti-S.Hook-skepticism campaign in nearly every post-Jan-13 podcast; but they've demonstrated definitively now that can't handle articulate criticism of same, lest it may nudge awake what remains of their dwindling listener/readership. Very judeo-bolshevik/communist tact of them!

    As I said above, "... I could not reconcile that with the notion that TUT are my 'allies' in Truth and resistance to Jewish Supremacist Tyranny/JWO."

    buh-bye GlennCo/TUT/podcasts.
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