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    Re: There Will Be No Economic Recovery. Prepare Yourself Accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunDriller View Post
    i listened to it about 3 times so far.
    i think Stefan was a little too ambitious with his outline when he started to lay this webcast.
    he is mixing economic statistics & observations about world affairs.

    i think he has done a great job pulling together economic statistics, but i would say he is dead wrong about some of his sociological observations.


    e.g. he says that "Violence doesn't work".

    i would say that the Violence that has occurred in the past has worked GREAT for the parties who inflict it on the general population.

    JFK was a threat to Israeli nuclear power dreams. 3 military snipers made sure to put an end to that. now Israel can be as obnoxious to their neighbors as they want. Violence worked well for them, in the short term.

    he mentions the War on Drugs, is if it were supposed to be a "rational project". does he really think the War on Drugs is supposed to be rational ? it criminalizes a plant (hemp) that endangers the profits of both the big pharma & the petro-chemical industries. it creates a Gulag of 2 million American prisoners.

    obviously the War on Drugs has not worked well for non-violent drug offenders, but it's not supposed to.

    of course, that subject - that of the effectiveness of violence - is both a subject unto itself, AND one that we can not discuss freely.


    if i was Stefan's 'editor' i would tell him to outline the subject areas he discusses, and to state the obvious - that it's too much for one 1-hour webcast, so this webcast will be on the deterioration of the economy (for example.)
    I have not finished it yet and had the same kind of reaction you did.

    At first I was eating all the food he put out... and he stated a PRINCIPLE that violence ALWAYS causes the opposite of the desired consequences. For a moment I accepted this as truth. But then something nagged at me. I brought this concept back up to conscious judgment.

    America was founded by violence in opposition to tyranny. Violence on the battlefield wins the battles. Violence in the face of an attacker may save the life of your family. Violence when hunting for food will put meat on your table. Violence against weeds in your garden will allow the desired plants to grow.

    I would have to say that Molyneux was wrong about that.

    There other thing about this is that he misplaces causes for results. It os government violence against the free market that is inefficient and will usually cause the opposite of supposed intended results. He seems to overlook the one key factor in this- unjust violence. There is a just violence.
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