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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    I see this as a potential catalyst too, not that this is "the "last straw" kind of thing but that the people who are affected have no choice but to not pay and will at some point be criminals or targets for the gestapo..IRS.
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by mamboni View Post
    You and me both.
    What do you say we eliminate medical insurance all together, Doctor's are good sumaritains, aren't they?

    Some of them probably have enough dough to start their own banks creating their own loans for the people.

    What's a couple gause bandages and scissors cost anyway?

    In the construction business your materials run about a third to 50% of the total bill.

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by Horn View Post
    What do you say we eliminate medical insurance all together, Doctor's are good sumaritains, aren't they?

    Some of them probably have enough dough to start their own banks creating their own loans for the people.

    What's a couple gause bandages and scissors cost anyway?

    In the construction business your materials run about a third to 50% of the total.
    Well, some MDs are opting out of the insurance scheme and setting up concierge (cash) practices. But there are so many potential pitfalls. Also licensing and malpractice insurance remain major overhead drags. In practice, you would need a large number of docs with many specialties to have any chance of survival. Large number means over 400-500!
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by mamboni View Post
    Well, some MDs are opting out of the insurance scheme and setting up concierge (cash) practices. But there are so many potential pitfalls. Also licensing and malpractice insurance remain major overhead drags. In practice, you would need a large number of docs with many specialties to have any chance of survival. Large number means over 400-500!
    Compartmentalized fields, I'll bet more than half of doctors must hate that aspect of their careers. If they had specialty in a minimum of 3 they should be able to then call themselves doctors. First spending thousands to learn the entire body then disregard to spend thousands to learn individual parts. Granted once an eye doctor isn't going to go back to perform colostomy, but hey

    Malpractice is easily solved by legislation and a free market.

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

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    I spend most of my days talking to drunk people...

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    36,000 PEOPLE HAVE ENROLLED IN THE OBAMACARE CLUSTERFUCK OF FAILURE



    Posted on 17th October 2013 by Administrator


    Clusterfuck of Failure is too kind of a description for the Obamacare rollout. The same people who have designed and rolled out this computer system are going to control your healthcare from here onwards. They have written tens of thousands of pages of rules and regulations. IRS drones will be enforcing the fines on businesses and individuals. Government apparatchiks will decide whether it is worth saving your life. These morons will dictate what is covered and when you can see a doctor. This will all be administered by thousands of health insurance companies. Millions of forms will need to be filed. Doctors will be driven out of the profession by the reduced reimbursements and myriad of paperwork involved in administering this Clusterfuck.


    Either the ignorant masses are so ignorant they don’t even know Obamacare went live, or they are too stupid to even read the instructions, or the computer system is so fucked up that no one is able to sign up, or they now realize free didn’t mean free. No matter the reason, Obama told the people of this country that Obamacare would cover 30 million Americans, save the average family $2,500 per year, and be cost neutral to the budget. Only 28,964,000 Americans to go until Obama’s vision is achieved. I wait for my $2,500 check in the mail every day. Our trillion dollar deficits should start to plummet momentarily, once Obamacare hits its stride.
    Less than 1% of HealthCare.gov registrants finish enrollment: report

    October 17, 2013, 2:16 PM
    By Russ Britt

    In case you missed it…..


    Fewer than 1% of those trying to register for health insurance under President Obama’s health-care overhaul actually were able to complete the enrollment process during the first week of business at HealthCare.gov.


    http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/MW...1017130545.jpg


    That was the finding earlier this week by Millard Brown Digital, a researcher that surveyed visitors to the website, rapidly becoming a thorn in the side of supporters of the Affordable Care Act.


    Complaints being unable to get insurance using the website have been numerous in the 17 days it has been up and running. For the most part, visitors are unable to get very far in the enrollment process, often not getting past the first few registration pages — a problem that persists.


    As Millard’s chart at left shows, there were 9.5 million unique visitors to HealthCare.gov, with 5.7 million visiting the individual marketplace from Oct. 1 to Oct. 5. Millard Brown estimates 3.7 million tried to register and 1 million of those completed registration.


    From there the numbers plummet into the thousands. Successful log-in was achieved by 271,000 users, 196,000 of which began enrollment. And of those, 36,000 actually completed the enrollment process. That works out to 0.97% of the 3.7 million who tried to register.


    Neither officials from the Department of Health and Human Services nor the contractor hired to build the web site CGI Group Inc. responded to requests for comment.
    The researcher determined traffic fell 88% from HealthCare.gov’s first week to its second, based on what it calls the website’s daily reach. Officials said the daily reach dropped that much between Oct. 1 and Oct. 13.


    Millard Brown’s findings were disclosed earlier this week and publicized by the web site Kantar U.S. Insights.

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by mamboni View Post
    36,000 PEOPLE HAVE ENROLLED IN THE OBAMACARE CLUSTERFUCK OF FAILURE



    Posted on 17th October 2013 by Administrator


    Clusterfuck of Failure is too kind of a description for the Obamacare rollout. The same people who have designed and rolled out this computer system are going to control your healthcare from here onwards. They have written tens of thousands of pages of rules and regulations. IRS drones will be enforcing the fines on businesses and individuals. Government apparatchiks will decide whether it is worth saving your life. These morons will dictate what is covered and when you can see a doctor. This will all be administered by thousands of health insurance companies. Millions of forms will need to be filed. Doctors will be driven out of the profession by the reduced reimbursements and myriad of paperwork involved in administering this Clusterfuck.


    Either the ignorant masses are so ignorant they don’t even know Obamacare went live, or they are too stupid to even read the instructions, or the computer system is so fucked up that no one is able to sign up, or they now realize free didn’t mean free. No matter the reason, Obama told the people of this country that Obamacare would cover 30 million Americans, save the average family $2,500 per year, and be cost neutral to the budget. Only 28,964,000 Americans to go until Obama’s vision is achieved. I wait for my $2,500 check in the mail every day. Our trillion dollar deficits should start to plummet momentarily, once Obamacare hits its stride.
    Less than 1% of HealthCare.gov registrants finish enrollment: report

    October 17, 2013, 2:16 PM
    By Russ Britt

    In case you missed it…..


    Fewer than 1% of those trying to register for health insurance under President Obama’s health-care overhaul actually were able to complete the enrollment process during the first week of business at HealthCare.gov.


    http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/MW...1017130545.jpg


    That was the finding earlier this week by Millard Brown Digital, a researcher that surveyed visitors to the website, rapidly becoming a thorn in the side of supporters of the Affordable Care Act.


    Complaints being unable to get insurance using the website have been numerous in the 17 days it has been up and running. For the most part, visitors are unable to get very far in the enrollment process, often not getting past the first few registration pages — a problem that persists.


    As Millard’s chart at left shows, there were 9.5 million unique visitors to HealthCare.gov, with 5.7 million visiting the individual marketplace from Oct. 1 to Oct. 5. Millard Brown estimates 3.7 million tried to register and 1 million of those completed registration.


    From there the numbers plummet into the thousands. Successful log-in was achieved by 271,000 users, 196,000 of which began enrollment. And of those, 36,000 actually completed the enrollment process. That works out to 0.97% of the 3.7 million who tried to register.


    Neither officials from the Department of Health and Human Services nor the contractor hired to build the web site CGI Group Inc. responded to requests for comment.
    The researcher determined traffic fell 88% from HealthCare.gov’s first week to its second, based on what it calls the website’s daily reach. Officials said the daily reach dropped that much between Oct. 1 and Oct. 13.


    Millard Brown’s findings were disclosed earlier this week and publicized by the web site Kantar U.S. Insights.

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/
    Out of the 36,000 people, I'd be interested to know how many of them have pre-existing conditions and/or are in dire need of medical care?
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by EE_ View Post
    Out of the 36,000 people, I'd be interested to know how many of them have pre-existing conditions and/or are in dire need of medical care?
    Every last one of them, absolutely without a doubt. The cost overruns on this bureaucratic white elephant are going to shock and awe.
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    This could have been designed to fail as the AFC plan but it seems to be a successful data miner.
    Jackie did it and you know it!

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    It will be interesting to see the reverse pyramid flocking into medicaid now that the government is re-opened.

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