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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Another victim of the liar-in-chief's nil care legislation:


    You Also Can't Keep Your Doctor

    I had great cancer doctors and health insurance. My plan was cancelled. Now I worry how long I'll live

    By Edie Littlefield Sundby


    Nov. 3, 2013 6:37 p.m. ET

    Everyone now is clamoring about Affordable Care Act winners and losers. I am one of the losers.
    My grievance is not political; all my energies are directed to enjoying life and staying alive, and I have no time for politics. For almost seven years I have fought and survived stage-4 gallbladder cancer, with a five-year survival rate of less than 2% after diagnosis. I am a determined fighter and extremely lucky. But this luck may have just run out: My affordable, lifesaving medical insurance policy has been canceled effective Dec. 31.


    My choice is to get coverage through the government health exchange and lose access to my cancer doctors, or pay much more for insurance outside the exchange (the quotes average 40% to 50% more) for the privilege of starting over with an unfamiliar insurance company and impaired benefits.
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    Countless hours searching for non-exchange plans have uncovered nothing that compares well with my existing coverage. But the greatest source of frustration is Covered California, the state's Affordable Care Act health-insurance exchange and, by some reports, one of the best such exchanges in the country. After four weeks of researching plans on the website, talking directly to government exchange counselors, insurance companies and medical providers, my insurance broker and I are as confused as ever. Time is running out and we still don't have a clue how to best proceed.


    Two things have been essential in my fight to survive stage-4 cancer. The first are doctors and health teams in California and Texas: at the medical center of the University of California, San Diego, and its Moores Cancer Center; Stanford University's Cancer Institute; and the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.


    The second element essential to my fight is a United Healthcare PPO (preferred provider organization) health-insurance policy.


    Since March 2007 United Healthcare has paid $1.2 million to help keep me alive, and it has never once questioned any treatment or procedure recommended by my medical team. The company pays a fair price to the doctors and hospitals, on time, and is responsive to the emergency treatment requirements of late-stage cancer. Its caring people in the claims office have been readily available to talk to me and my providers.


    But in January, United Healthcare sent me a letter announcing that they were pulling out of the individual California market. The company suggested I look to Covered California starting in October.
    You would think it would be simple to find a health-exchange plan that allows me, living in San Diego, to continue to see my primary oncologist at Stanford University and my primary care doctors at the University of California, San Diego. Not so. UCSD has agreed to accept only one Covered California plan—a very restrictive Anthem EPO Plan. EPO stands for exclusive provider organization, which means the plan has a small network of doctors and facilities and no out-of-network coverage (as in a preferred-provider organization plan) except for emergencies. Stanford accepts an Anthem PPO plan but it is not available for purchase in San Diego (only Anthem HMO and EPO plans are available in San Diego).


    So if I go with a health-exchange plan, I must choose between Stanford and UCSD. Stanford has kept me alive—but UCSD has provided emergency and local treatment support during wretched periods of this disease, and it is where my primary-care doctors are.


    Before the Affordable Care Act, health-insurance policies could not be sold across state lines; now policies sold on the Affordable Care Act exchanges may not be offered across county lines.


    What happened to the president's promise, "You can keep your health plan"? Or to the promise that "You can keep your doctor"? Thanks to the law, I have been forced to give up a world-class health plan. The exchange would force me to give up a world-class physician.


    For a cancer patient, medical coverage is a matter of life and death. Take away people's ability to control their medical-coverage choices and they may die. I guess that's a highly effective way to control medical costs. Perhaps that's the point.


    Ms. Sundby lives in California.
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Paul Craig Roberts is part of the strangegove routine.

    you are all suckers for crumbs he has for free that is marking up an selling at a huge profit....and insider that is dumping the stocks that are getting worthless...but worth something to you.

    The affordable care act...legislation like this takes decades to implement at high cost over time without blowing peoples minds out.

    So just the title of it is lie you already bought...you believe it is somehow legitmate.

    it would be like writing an operating system program...by popular vote.

    and then installing it and it blows up and evenyone is perplexed as to why it did not work...All law that the makers of the laws of the Universe work.

    people have no power to make or break Law

    all that people have the power to do is make and break rules and call rules LAW

    but if the rule attempts to break LAW

    LAW will break the rule.

    The program of affordable health care was designed to blow up from square one.

    or what? you all are so weak minded that you are still playing oopsie daisy?

    Like laying on the ground gasping for air...finished...smoke coming out of your ears.

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypertiger View Post
    Paul Craig Roberts is part of the strangegove routine.

    you are all suckers for crumbs he has for free that is marking up an selling at a huge profit....and insider that is dumping the stocks that are getting worthless...but worth something to you.

    The affordable care act...legislation like this takes decades to implement at high cost over time without blowing peoples minds out.

    So just the title of it is lie you already bought...you believe it is somehow legitmate.

    it would be like writing an operating system program...by popular vote.

    and then installing it and it blows up and evenyone is perplexed as to why it did not work...All law that the makers of the laws of the Universe work.

    people have no power to make or break Law

    all that people have the power to do is make and break rules and call rules LAW

    but if the rule attempts to break LAW

    LAW will break the rule.

    The program of affordable health care was designed to blow up from square one.

    or what? you all are so weak minded that you are still playing oopsie daisy?

    Like laying on the ground gasping for air...finished...smoke coming out of your ears.

    So, are you saying that Obama has raised legislative idiocy to maximum potential on top of maximum potential until maximum idiocy is achieved and no more idiocy can be piled on to the heap of idiocy? Does a hairless monkey require less health care than one with hair?
    Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest. -Benjamin Franklin
    Sincerity makes the very least person to be of more value than the most talented hypocrite. -Charles Spurgeon

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    HT was saying he like the hairless banana? :dunno:

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Poll: 78% of Uninsured Not Interested in ObamaCare

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    by John Nolte8 Nov 2013, 11:15 AM PDT


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    A new Gallup poll brings more terrible news for President Obama and his signature health plan, showing that only 22% of uninsured Americans intend to buy insurance through the ObamaCare exchanges.

    One of the major selling points for using ObamaCare to disrupt our health care system (that polls showed up to 80% of Americans were satisfied with) was to insure the uninsured. But according to this poll, only a very small minority of that small minority is even interested in obtaining insurance.

    Even more troubling is the realization that a month ago, that number was double; a full 44% of the uninsured said they would purchase insurance though the exchanges.

    Over the course of a month, however, the reality of ObamaCare scared off half of that 44%. The high cost of premiums, the high deductibles customers have to pay regardless of any tax subsidy, and the unforgivable bungling of the rollout only discouraged those who we blew up a perfectly good health care system to help.

    The worse news is that you can bet that the 22% who do intend to sign up are made up of the oldest and sickest among the uninsured. Meanwhile, the 78% who are uninterested in being insured are likely the youngest and healthiest.

    This means a sicker and older pool of enrollees, which means higher premiums for a couple hundred million Americans who were perfectly satisfied with what they had--that is, before President Obama, Democrats, and the media decided what was best for us.

    As of now, the poll shows only 18% of the uninsured have even tried to visit a marketplace website.

    When you look at the nearly 4 million Americans who have already had their insurance cancelled, the low enrollment numbers we have seen so far, and combine that with the website problems, sticker shock, and overall disgust, it is not out inconceivable to speculate that by this time next year, ObamaCare will have caused the number of uninsured in America to increase.

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    So if you dont use a computer and dont watch TV and dont file a tax return you wouldn't have even heard of this plan.

    How do they punish you?

    I read they will put a lean against your property so they get the back pay when you sell it or transfer it to your children.
    Jackie did it and you know it!

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2 View Post
    So if you dont use a computer and dont watch TV and dont file a tax return you wouldn't have even heard of this plan.

    How do they punish you?

    I read they will put a lean against your property so they get the back pay when you sell it or transfer it to your children.
    But its all for your good health......hahahaha



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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    14 pages of speculation...I can see more interesting speculations staring into the snow of the chaos of a old TV

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9aENGodu5A

    The affordable care act is a fucking lie every moron on earth believes is truth.

    except me...I know its a lie.

    I'm the president of dark.

    not the president of light.

    I do not sign off on shit that I do not understand fully...unlike you all.

    I do not remember signing any line to get here.

    but man o man...once here...learn to sign...and commit legal crime.

    don't worry about doing the time...

    Its easy living off brain dead slime.

    that is what the vampires at the political parties talk about...the yield from brain dead slime.

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Must...increase....thorazine....dosage....must.... increase.....thorazine....dosage....
    Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest. -Benjamin Franklin
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