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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    More articles on Sandy Hook posted here: http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/sandy-hook-massacre/

    Here's the latest article on the Pozner family:

    http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...m-noah-pozner/

    The curious parents of Sandy Hook child victim Noah Pozner

    Posted on April 3, 2014 by Dr. Eowyn | 22 Comments

    We are told that on the morning of December 14, 2012, a single gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, for no discernible reason, barged into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

    There, despite his “very poor muscle tone” and “very very poor motor skills” which typify those afflicted with Asperger syndrome, Lanza managed to shoot to death 20 first-graders and 6 adults in less than 5 minutes.

    That’s just one of the reasons why many now believe the Sandy Hook shootings to be what former state trooper Wolfgang Halbig calls “a contrived event.”
    In addition to the parents’ absence of signs of grief, the resemblances of Sandy Hook people to crisis actors, the RIP and donation sites that were created days before the massacre, the strange Social Security Death Index for Lanza that said he had died a day before the massacre, and the continuing lack of transparency from state officials, here’s another oddity: 6-year-old child victim Noah Pozner‘s parents.

    Put simply, Noah’s mom Veronique may not be who she says she is. And Noah’s dad, Lenny, is dissembling about his son’s photos, allegedly taken a month apart.


    Noah’s mother: Veronique Haller Pozner




    Noah’s mom, Veronique Haller Pozner, waves to the assembled media as she leaves after the funeral service in Fairfield, Conn. (AP) Her 6-year-old boy was shot “multiple times,” with his jaw blown away, but this mother had the presence of mind to put on rouge, eye makeup, and red lipstick just 3 days later.

    On December 17, 2014, three days after the massacre, the funeral service for little Noah was held in Fairfield, Connecticut, where his body reportedly laid in an open casket — a simple brown wooden casket with a Star of David on it.

    Since the service was closed to the news media, Noah’s maternal uncle, Alexis Haller, was the source of information about the funeral. An outspoken advocate for gun control who lives in Seattle, Washington, Haller told the Associated Press, “If Noah had not been taken from us, he would have become a great man. He would have been a wonderful husband and a loving father.”

    Bizarrely, Noah’s mother, Veronique Haller Pozner, who herself is a gun control advocate, later accused her brother Alexis of speaking without her authorization.

    Veronique also told the Jewish Daily Forward that she’d made the painful decision to have an open casket for her son’s wake in order to show people the “ugliness” of gun violence. She said, “We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away.”

    The press tells us Veronique is an oncology nurse. Naomi Zeveloff reports for Forward, Dec. 26, 2012, that “On the morning of December 14, Veronique was at the medical center where she works as an oncology nurse when she received an automated text message alerting her that there was a reported shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. … Veronique drove at 80 miles per hour to the school, praying that her car’s faulty engine would hold up.”

    Reporter Zeveloff did not name the medical center, but an article in USA Today of Dec. 18, 2012, says “Veronique Pozner was at work at Grove Hill Medical Center in New Britain, 38 miles from the Sandy Hook school, administering chemotherapy to cancer patients when a patient got an alert about the Sandy Hook shootings, said Doreen Berube, the office administrator. Pozner, an oncology nurse, came to Berube and said simply, ‘I’ve got to go.”’

    I searched Grove Hill Medical Center’s website for both Veronique Pozner and Doreen Berube, but found nothing.

    I did find a barebones page for Veronique Pozner on LinkedIn (see below), which says she is a registered nurse at Grove Hill Medical Center in New Britain, CT, but gives no information as to her education, which is odd.



    Odder still, Pozner’s LinkedIn page as 0 connections. Frankly, I know of no one who’s on LinkedIn with zero connections. That defeats the purpose of having a LinkedIn page because LinkedIn is a career-oriented social networking site for professionals and business people.

    However, as some bloggers discovered, there is a Veronique Haller, identified on the website of the Swiss-American Chamber of Commerce as the Legal Counselor for the Swiss Embassy in Washington, D.C.! Veronique Haller, however, is not on LinkedIn.



    Noah’s dad: Leonard (“Lenny”) Pozner


    The USA Today article describes Veronique Haller Pozner as a single mom of five: two older children (a daughter and a son) from her first marriage, and three younger children from her second marriage to Lenny Pozner — a daughter Sophia, and twins Noah and Arielle.

    According to the account in Forward, in 2005, Veronique and Lenny had relocated to Newtown from nearby Bethel (they had previously lived in Westchester.)
    Oddly, although Lenny is the father of Noah, he did not attend his slain son’s funeral. Instead, after the Jewish shiva mourning period, Lenny “went to be with family in Florida.”

    But Lenny Pozner did upload photos of Noah to his Google Plus account, which blogger Timothy Hunter discovered. Hunter noticed that Noah’s hair length was very different in two photos that were taken just a month apart.

    Here’s the first photo from Lenny’s Google Plus account, taken on 1/25/2012 (click below image to enlarge):



    Here’s the second photo of Noah from Lenny’s Google Plus account, taken a month later on 2/26/2012 (click image to enlarge):



    Let’s compare Noah Pozner in the two photos, supposedly taken a month and a day apart (see below). Noah #2 sure has a lot more and much longer hair than Noah No. 1. In just a month!



    When Hunter points out that hair doesn’t grow that fast in just a month, Lenny Pozner actually responded to Hunter with the lame explanation that Noah’s hair was so much longer in the 2-26-2012 pic because the boy was wearing a wig.

    Oh, puleeze.

    Why would anyone put a wig on a 6-year-old boy?

    Hunter’s guess is that Lenny had uploaded a bunch of Noah’s younger pictures to his Google Plus account to give “the illusion that they were living normal lives up until the event [Sandy Hook massacre] took place.” That would explain why Noah’s hair managed to “grow” INCHES in just a month.

    It’s all a ruse.

    In Hunter’s words: “The alleged victims of Sandy Hook would have to be years older than we were told by the media for this hoax to work, and all credible evidence points to this fact – the Photoshopped pictures, their likenesses (only a few years older) appearing at the Super Bowl, and the appearance of their likenesses in a 2006 album called End Times.”

    Here’s Hunter on the Noah photos and Lenny’s lame explanation:



    See also Hunter’s other stunning disc0very: “Sandy Hook deception: Associated Press stories & photos predate the massacre.”
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    For those interested:

    Live debate: Sandy Hook truther Wolfgang Halbig vs. CW Wade, tonight, April 7th at 8:00 Eastern Time. Duration: two hours. The moderator is Dave Gahary. Call in to speak with the host. Link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/04/08/date-with-a-debate-cw-wade-vs-wolfgang-halbig

    Most likely, at some point tomorrow, the debate will be posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/ (anyone who attempts to post comments over there should be aware that there is a lot of censorship, as comments critical of those promoting the zio-media version of SH tend to get deleted)

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    Sandy Hook Ele was NOT in use CLEAR FILTH & Liability lies
    Good vid, true the entire school looks like it had a compromised roof, mildew issues evident at the base of all those walls. Wood doors look like they've been perched above soaked floors for at least a year, still appearing wet.

    They were probably having seepage issues in many areas, and only used certain parts. The redwood chips and all exterior doors, and parking lot painted recently because without it would be too obvious, the weeds pushed backed from main entry, and the full parking lot also suspect.

    When you look closely at the green placards she points out they even appear to be wet!

    Some good comments under the video too, one about how high up everything is related to elementary kids looking at their own work, or the classroom tags.

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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    For those interested:

    Live debate: Sandy Hook truther Wolfgang Halbig vs. CW Wade, tonight, April 7th at 8:00 Eastern Time. Duration: two hours. The moderator is Dave Gahary. Call in to speak with the host. Link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/04/08/date-with-a-debate-cw-wade-vs-wolfgang-halbig

    Most likely, at some point tomorrow, the debate will be posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/ (anyone who attempts to post comments over there should be aware that there is a lot of censorship, as comments critical of those promoting the zio-media version of SH tend to get deleted)
    This is now available at the talkshoe page above; either use the player console, or d/l the mp3.

    I listened; it's 2 hours, worthwhile. I was afraid Halbig would be "too polite" and let himself get trampled by interruptions and filibusters etc ala his "interview" with Spingola. But WH was sufficiently assertive and did fine. If the callers in the 2nd hour were any indication, WH "won" the debate; and a couple callers called the anonymous "Wade" opponent a disinfo shill. Wade was all about "the reports", what else is new?
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    As the debate progressed the guy named "Wade" was made by Wolfgang to show his fangs. At first Wade was playing the role of a person who actually read the 9-book report and was just an average person of good common sense who could make perfect sense of what played out at Sandy Hook and who could easily fit all the pieces of the puzzle together. But WH was aggressive and would not let up and this strategy forced "Wade" to show his fangs. WH capitalized on his real-life experience of being at the scene of several school shootings and this made Wade look quite inane in drawing all his conclusions from a government report.

    It was unclear exactly what "report" when they kept referring to "the report." In fact "the report" being referred to was several data dump "reports" in various formats, not just text.

    For the record, there are two sites and two reports, with the second being a compilation of data dump government garbage "reports".

    1.
    http://www.ct.gov/csao/lib/csao/Sand...nal_Report.pdf

    Report of the State’s Attorney for the
    Judicial District of Danbury on the
    Shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School and
    36 Yogananda Street,
    Newtown, Connecticut
    on
    December 14, 2012
    OFFICE OF THE STATE’S ATTORNEY
    JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF DANBURY
    Stephen J. Sedensky III, State’s Attorney
    November 25,
    2013


    2.
    http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/
    Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection

    Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Reports

    (This is the 9-book report that the debate revolved around for Wade.)

    Only someone with experience like Wolfgang Halbig could possibly identify the flaws and omissions of these reports.

    I was a bit disappointed that Wolfgang did not expand on the FBI reports that were totally missing from these two official "reports" and is the main point of contention Wolfgang has with the grossly deficient official "report" of the event.

    Our evil darkside government has learned well how to blur anything that could be regarded as "the clear official story" of any event. This is the government's THESIS, the official story, how they declare that the event happened. We are, as they well know, left in a difficult position when we do not have a clear thesis to respond to.

    Lastly, the REAL LOSER in this debate was the image and reputation of American Free Press, the moderator Dave Gahary's employer. AFP looked weak and trashy to dig up this Wade shill/insult for the debate.

    Wade is playing the same role of Deanna Spingola and Michael Collins Piper and the whole dustifying edifice of AFP. Gahary did not manage the "debate" very well and there were many times he should have restored order. Also the comment Gahary made at the end about both of these men truly being sincere in their position (something like that) was a bit nauseating. Wade was a poor actor/shill peddling the government Big Lie and is not much better than the perps.

    Just when AFP's coverage of the Zionists, the Jews, and Israel was beginning to be accepted by more and more of the public in light of Israel's recent glaring and indisputable intrusions in global geopolitical machinations, AFP totally "blows it" on Sandy Hook. Piper and Spingola appear to mysteriously deliberately self destruct with Piper leaving AFP and Spingola being cut in her RBN show hours from 10 hours per week to one two-hour show per week. Something very weird is going on behind the scenes at AFP and it seemed to be start when Piper came out like a discombobulated maniac in support of the Sandy Hook official story.

    I bought a book from AFP and received a "FREE 1-YEAR ELECTRONIC EDITION SUBSCRIPTION WITH EVERY ORDER!" and they were sending me an email notice each time a new edition was available to me, but those email notices abruptly stopped right around when this Sandy Hook issue ensued. They must have seen one of my negative posts on John Friend's blog and deleted me. I suppose I still have access but I am no longer interested in reading AFP because I have come to believe that it is just another twisted subversive Zionist operation.

    In other words, AFP and it's stable of writers is not about seeking objective truth wherever it may lead but are a totally controlled operation. No matter how "persecuted" some entity appears to be for telling/printing the "truth", that does not make them truly telling/printing the truth. (Alex Jones and so many other flim-flam alternative media personalities have been playing that persecuted "suffering martyr - servant of the people and the truth and the republic" role for many years. )

    I read the following article that postulates that Mark Lane really runs the AFP operation.

    http://ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/2...collins-piper/

    “This would mean that the so-called right-wing patriotic and anti-Semitic publications of the Liberty Lobby, such as the Spotlight and American Free Press, are actually controlled-opposition outfits controlled by the Zionist Jew, Mark Lane.”

    I have observed that Zionists machinations can indeed be this twisted. You have this front publication appearing to be oh so "anti-semitic" and oh so persecuted for telling the truth and may be in reality an operation of the persecuted semites.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    It was telling how Wade liked to repeat the word "evidence..", to give the impression that he's a real stickler for hard evidence. But then what's all the precious "evidence" he cites? The reports... lol; when it comes to real evidence outside of djooz' SHoax reports, there IS NO HARD EVIDENCE of djooz' official narrative! I guess Wade's disinfo handbook asserts that the audience wouldn't notice this... just keep repeating that buzzword, to make up for his lack of any real evidence to support his proclaimed SHoax belief!

    AFP's Dave Gahary was on JFriend's podcast today. First ~half or so is mostly them hating on djooz; then about the last 20-30 mins is SHoax talk, and the Wade/Halbig debate. 93 mins,

    Tuesday, April 8, 2014


    The Realist Report - Dave Gahary: American Free Press



    On this edition of The Realist Report, we'll be joined once again by Dave Gahary, a regular contributor and web editor for American Free Press. Dave and I will be discussing a variety of topics.

    You can download the mp3 for this program here, or visit The Realist Report on BlogTalkRadio to subscribe via iTunes and view past programs.


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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Here's video that goes over the photographic evidence from the Lanza home:

    Adam Lanza House Fake Set Up Scene Photos


    video description: Published on Dec 27, 2013 -My opinion is no one - no family ever lived in this house and if they did it was a long time ago. This place was set up like a movie set and there is absolutely nothing that points to Nancy or anyone personally living in that


    You can also go through the photos here: http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/csp...mary_Scene.pdf

    It's also worth scanning the comments posted on youtube--gives you a good overview of some of the things people noticed.

    The overall feeling I got was that this was thrown together rather quickly. There were lots of boxes and bags piled up all over the place, and it's kind of hard to believe that a woman who wasn't working would be that disorganized. Lots of the cabinets seemed either on the messy side (like things were quickly thrown in) or emptier than you would expect. Also, it was kind of strange to see Huggies diapers in the cabinet under the bathroom sink (guess the evidence planters messed up on that one). I was also wondering whether the boxes and bags of stuff were just the rest of the props that the govt. agents didn't have time to stage.

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    For those interested, the debate between Wolfgang and C.W. Wade is also posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...-wolfgang.html

    Though there is a history of censorship at grizzom when it comes to shows on Sandy Hook, the debate was posted by "Whooli," and I'm relatively certain that he is not one of the moderators over there who deletes comments in response to the shows he posts.

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    For those interested, the debate between Wolfgang and C.W. Wade is also posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...-wolfgang.html

    Though there is a history of censorship at grizzom when it comes to shows on Sandy Hook, the debate was posted by "Whooli," and I'm relatively certain that he is not one of the moderators over there who deletes comments in response to the shows he posts.
    Oddly, based on the current 4th comment from Nick Dean @ 2:26 PM, an earlier comment from the toxic pro-joo S.Hoax story "Aleksa" has been removed?

    As I remarked at JFriend's, I posted the first paragraph you see in my reply 1306 above into the mami's comments for yesterday's JFriend/DGahary podcast; and it lasted about 10 mins before it was deleted. I'll post the same into the mami's Halbig/Wade comments now and see how long it lasts. It's not only Whooli who can delete comments there; pretty sure any mod can.

    I'm just a few mins into this latest JFriend/JKaminski podcast now; curious if SHoax comes up... 1h 49m:
    Wednesday, April 9, 2014

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    It is gradually becoming more clear in my mind how logical fallacies play into the thinking regarding these hoax events and false flag events versus those who claim the event was real as based on "the official story."

    It is stinkin thinkin and we all are susceptible to various forms of stinkin thinking and the perps in events know very well how to take full advantage of the kinds of stinkin thinkin that will ensue after and event that they perpetrate.

    Here is a Mami's poster is claiming that because the Pennsylvania shooting was clearly a case of a drugged up shooter, then that proves that Sandy Hook also was the case of a drugged up shooter and therefore Sandy Hook was not a hoax.


    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...60350393948752
    Blogger Horst Wessel said...

    Was the mass stabbing by a 16 year old at the school in Pennsylvania today also a hoax? These 'sandy hook was hoax' believers are in for a real treat when the American society slips down another rung on the ladder of demoralization and deterioration and the real wackos doped up on big pharma's drugs start coming out the wood work daily. We'll see how much of a hoax it is then...

    April 10, 2014 at 1:55 AM

    I believe this is what is called the

    Cum hoc ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this).

    We have two big incidents or events (Sandy Hook and Pennsylvania "shooting" - acutually knifing in the Penn case I think) and a drugged up shooter is said to be the "cause" of the event, therefore because the drugged up shooter appears valid, and there are no other observations at this time that we know of that point to the Penn. shooting being a hoax, then that makes the drugged up shooter Lanza valid in the Sandy Hook event.

    Of course, there must be, and is, always the real possibility that a real drugged up shooter does commit a mass shooting solely because of drug effects on his mind and the shooter is a real person, not a created false entity.

    Yes, much of the information about drugs and their effects on the brain and the kinds of psychotic behaviors that can be caused by drugs is largely true. Jon Rappaport and several of the psychiatrists that are guests on Alex Jones show all inundate us with the facts about drugs and how they can affect behavior. However, Rappaport and Alex Jones and a whole cadre of radio show hosts seem to point exclusively to drugs as being the sole explanation for the "real lone gunman's" actions, and this assumption, heavily immersed in cold hard chemical facts info about the drugs, always inexorably leads everyone to accepting the official government story of the event.

    Keep in mind that "we" know very little about "Manchurian Candidates (MC)." "We" also know very little about psych drugs and the exact way they act on the human brain. But it is very possible that "they" know very much about these things.

    It seems quite possible to me that a person can be an MC and also be on several drugs, but that it may be what is done to them as part of making them an MC (hypnotism, programmed triggers, surgery etc) that "rules" in determining the actions the MC takes.

    I have noticed that, just as I noticed on 9-11 truth seeking, that GCNlive shows hosts and guests seem very much to be pushing the "DRUGS are the cause of these bad mass shooting events" idea and therefore GCNlive is subtly pushing the official stories. GCN's advertisers may have a vested interest in having the official stories being accepted by all and therefore GCN's continued commercial survival depends on keeping their sponsors happy with their show content.

    There are other show hosts and networks and publications that are under the same "guidelines" as GCNlive.com

    (GCN does tip its hat occassionally to those of us who do not buy the official story and they will do some very brief cursory coverage in airing those contrarian opinions.)

    Anyone see any value in my thinking about these things or am I barking up the wrong tree?

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