new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

[Amanda]

Sandy hook student says it was a drill MUST SEE !


Published on Feb 10, 2013
third grade sandy hook student says he remembers lots of police and a DRILL at the school on the day of the supposed shooting, the interviewer makes like he didn't hear the boy and proceeds to the next question. truth is what we want, lies is what we get.

[Amanda]

Here's a new article on Sandy Hook Elementary being an abandoned school long before the staged event. I'll bring the whole article over in a few days, but for now, just read it at the original site:

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...-the-massacre/

[Horn]

Here's a new article on Sandy Hook Elementary being an abandoned school long before the staged event. I'll bring the whole article over in a few days, but for now, just read it at the original site:

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...-the-massacre/

Some different photos there, were these taken later on?

here's a different angle of that one you showed before.

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Not many school children's desks in this school.



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You may think: “Maybe the Connecticut State Police had cleared some of the classrooms, pushing stuff to the sides of the room, before they took the photos.” But then, there are many photos (like the one below) of bullets next to yellow crime scene markers, which suggest the photos of the classrooms had been taken as they were, without disturbing or altering the crime scene.

[Horn]

Nancy Lanza's walls do appear very clean, no pictures or anything hung.

and furniture looks like new.

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[Amanda]

Some different photos there, were these taken later on?

here's a different angle of that one you showed before.

Attachment 6237

Not many school children's desks in this school.

I'm fairly certain that all of the photos were taken within a few days of the event (definitely within a week). I also noticed that about the lack of desks in certain rooms. Plus, there are also a couple of photos with a whole bunch of things in the hallways. And there were also a couple of photos of extremely disorganized classrooms--there's no way a teacher would be allowed to keep her classroom in such disarray. I'm assuming that the photos reflect the crime scene as it was (I don't think they are allowed to move things around before they take photos-otherwise they are tampering with a crime scene). But if I'm wrong on that, and they can actually move stuff around and then take a photo, hopefully someone will correct me.

For those interested, I highly recommend downloading the photos and going through them yourself-it actually doesn't take that long b/c you can just click through them very fast.

If you go here http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/ and scroll down to "Photographs," under which you click on

22 Assorted Files (.zip, 138 MB includes 22 pdf files, ) Once you down load those files, you'll see separate files, like "Walkley Crime scene"--that's the one with tons of photos from inside the school.

I've actually gone through several of the photograph files. When you go through the ones on the interior and exterior of the school, it kind of jumps out at you that there's no way that a school in that condition would have been allowed to operate. There are some close up shots of the floor and lower wall tiles and you can see tons of mold. The other thing I noticed as that there were lots of fans all over the place (kind of strange for December in CT), but no wall calendars, which is odd for an elementary school.

Also, in one of the files, there are photos of the cars in the parking lot and it seems like there at least a couple of cars with bullet holes (I was only aware of the bullet holes in Rousseau's car, one of which already began to rust!) I've already seen other sites online showing how there was a problem with the trajectory and the holes in Rousseau's car. This also seems to be the case with the bullet hole in another car. It looked like the car was hit on the side (maybe passenger door), but given the angle the cars were parked at relative to the school, and the fact that the cars were parked next to other cars, this also seemed like an impossibility.

[Horn]

Found this video interesting

[PatColo]

I haven't listened yet, as I know it's one of those things I need to muster energy for coz I know it (KJohnson screeching lies) will be very annoying. At least it's mami's Whooli who posted it so presumably S.Hoax skeptics comments won't be deleted/censored? FauxCapitalist has already noted how KJ Flips the Script & Projects early on:

6 minutes in, Keith Johnson declares:

"I believe there are people out there who are deliberately putting out false information concerning that tragic incident that occurred at the end of 2012. And I believe that they're doing it to discredit the Truth movement, the alternative movement." [...]

ah well here it is:

"In the Spotlight" with Keith Johnson 4/10/2014

On this premiere edition of “In the Spotlight,” Keith continues to argue against those who believe that Sandy Hook was an elaborate hoax.
Sandy Hook researcher CW Wade joins the program to discuss his April 7 AFP debate with school safety expert Wolfgang W. Halbig.

Show-page
American Free Press
The Barnes Review


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Posted by WHOOLI at 2:15 PM
3 comments:

[Amanda]

On those bullet holes in Rousseau's car that I mentioned above (^1335), though the CT photos don't show the rusted bullet hole, the video here at the 13 sec mark shows it:





And on the problems with the trajectory, this site https://usahitman.com/lrcrbh/ tried to map it out:

The official story: Lauren’s car was struck by bullets shot from inside the building. There was no record of any bullet holes in the windows of the school… Here is another image that shows the angle which the gun had to be fired:




Now with your knowledge of the angle her car would have been parked at in relation to the shooter, how is it possible for a bullet hole to penetrate the side of her car at the trajectory shown above? Was there no car beside her? This is just one of the many mysteries about the official story. More research coming in different articles, stay tuned.


And on this site http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/...n-drive-my-car (which is run by a former Toronto cop), he seems to think one of the bullet holes in Rousseau's car was actually fired from inside:


Then there is an issue of teacher Lauren Rousseau's car being riddled with bullets on the outside of the school. Whoever said there was shooting outside? Her Honda was green.
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There was a gunfight at the O.K. corral in the parking lot. It may very well be that a drug deal went south and they shot it out. One of the 'second' shooters has been identified as well. If we look at the above pictures of Rousseau's car, pay attention to the upper image. Call me stoopid, but that looks like an exit hole. It craters out not in. Baby you can drive my car, but try NOT to shoot your gun off from inside please because then people will want to ban them.

NOW THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION?
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The only proof we have that Nancy Lanza owned firearms was the media saying she did. There is no documentary evidence from the police who would have had to issue a permit after a serious application process that includes a fingerprint check. DID NANCY LANZA OWN ANY GUNS?
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As a case for comparison I can show you Eleanor Roosevelt owned and carried a firearm.
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[PatColo]

For those interested in listening to a shill promote the MSM version of Sandy Hook:

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...n-4102014.html


Also, I think it's kind of interesting that AFP sponsors radio shows with Spingola and Johnson, who both promote the zio-media version of Sandy Hook. I think I may have heard Friend and Gahary attempt to talk about this in a positive light, saying something like "isn't it great that we cover both sides of an issue??"

oops missed this when I posted #1337 above. I did just post a comment in the thread which I'll repost here for posterity... and evidence in case a rogue mami's mod deletes the original there.

Pat Colo said...

FauxCapitalist said...

6 minutes in, Keith Johnson declares:

"I believe there are people out there who are deliberately putting out false information concerning that tragic incident that occurred at the end of 2012. And I believe that they're doing it to discredit the Truth movement, the alternative movement." [...]


^ This is more of the same textbook joowey "Flip the Script & Project" gambit we've seen at the core of GlennCo's (incl KJ) & Deanna's pro-joo-SHoax-story campaigns since their inceptions. ref:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
...to say nothing of the sock drawer of pro-joo-SHoax-story shills infesting Mami's comments.

Separately, I posted @ Fetzer's blog,

"Dr. Fetzer, shouldn't 2 items be in "Wolfgang's Questions", which are not there? These 2 don't ask why such & such didn't happen which can be dismissed under the catch-all "human error" banner. Rather, these two irregularities are backed by hard forensic evidence that they DID happen, question being WHY?

1. The "free houses" recorded on Christmas Day '09. I heard these all trace to "victim families", and that they all went up for sale after the event sometime. A personal visit to the SH Clerk/Recorder's office for hard copies of these records-- and some questions of them about the "normalcy" of title transfer recordings on Christmas Day with *ZERO* sale prices, would be in order, yes?

2. The complete cessation of all internet traffic to/from SHES since the end of the '08 Spring semester. This was only discovered by a researcher about a month ago.

The 2nd item suggesting that SHES was closed since Summer '08, is corroborated by numerous videos showing the school's decrepit, unmaintained condition.

Again, the above 2 items are forensically evidenced, unlike several of Wolfgang's "why DIDN'T xyz happen" questions. "

Fetzer responded, "Good thoughts. Thanks for mentioning both. Important."
ref: http://tinyurl.com/qjjj4gl
April 11, 2014 at 9:30 PM

[Amanda]

@PatColo--Good luck listening to that Keith Johnson audio!! I honestly don't think I have the stomach for it.

Anyway, I just returned to the article I recently linked to here http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...-the-massacre/ and it looks like one of the people commenting had some interesting things to say:

Sig94 | April 11, 2014 at 5:10 pm | Reply

I was a NYS certified evidence technician for over seven years. I have processed hundreds and hundreds of crime scenes including homicides. These photos simply do not make sense. As the poster pointed out, where’s the blood? Not only are pools of blood not depicted, but also the high velocity blood spatters that would have been caused by the suspect’s high powered rifle. They are characteristic of firearms-related incidents and are rather different from medium velocity spatters to a trained eye.

So where’s the medical waste? Twenty-six human beings were shot and not a bandage to be seen? No bloody gauze? No empty 4X4 wrappers? When emergency medical teams converge on something like this, an ocean of medical waste is left at the scene. This is sanitary, scrubbed.

The 5.56mm round (those commonly available) are usually full metal jacketed and either 55 or 62 grams – their velocity is right around 2800-3000 fps. Look at that photo (1C Custodial Closet) with a so called bullet hole in the ceramic about 16 inches above the floor. It looks like it was drilled, the dust neatly piled on the floor. The picture right below that with an impact area on the corner of a wall – it looks like a ball peen hammer was used and the bullet never got beyond the tile into the cinderblock.

Where are the papers spilled all over the floor as panicked children fled? Why aren’t chairs thrown helter-skelter, desks out of order? If the kids and teachers didn’t turn this place upside down trying to escape/evade the shooter the cops would have in their search for the suspect(s).

This is not a crime scene where slaughter occurred, where terror and pandemonium reigned supreme. There are no signs of chaos.

This is sanitary, scrubbed.

Staged. And not very well at that.


Dr. Eowyn | April 11, 2014 at 5:29 pm | Reply

Thank you, Sig, for your expert analysis.



“Look at that photo (1C Custodial Closet) with a so called bullet hole in the ceramic about 16 inches above the floor. It looks like it was drilled, the dust neatly piled on the floor.”

• Sig, you have sharp eyes! I’m re-posting that pic here, having drawn red circles around the “bullet hole” and the pile of drilled dust. LOL