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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    ^ I can't say I agree with your FBI/Woods/ShamShilli/Delphi theory; mostly coz I've largely steered clear of the various, contrived "chasing our tails arguing over the technicals of HOW 911 was done" diversions inside the TM. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world.

    As to ShamShilli's questions "designed to fit Sunstein-Spingola's nonsense statements"; I'd just remind that a proper agent "deep inside" a given "movement", needs to do 90+ percent cred-building. Consider, Agent ShamShilli is presently on location near Bundy's NV ranch, reporting the twoof! And, low-level agents aren't exactly in cahoots with one another; they're kept compartmentalized from one another. Consider Agent Pied Piper's words describing himself and many like him:



    "[...] You know, someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]"


    So I'd guess ShamShilli's questions of Delphi in their Mar 31 interview were sincere, under the 90+ percent cred-building banner. Delphi herself said of the ShamShilli interview, "On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. "

    Also consider 'How the Fake Truth Movement Operates - a Thumbnail Sketch' (esp Protocol IV).
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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    "...I've largely steered clear of the various, contrived "chasing our tails arguing over the technicals of HOW 911 was done" diversions inside the TM. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world. "

    The "arguing over the technicals" makes up about 99 percent of the TM. I do not argue over the technicals but I observe how different factions glom on to certain "technicals" and certain bits of purported "evidence" and then build from there. This is extremely valuable information in studying any false flag type event. (By the way, I use "false flag type event" to cover all these government psyops including the Sandy Hook debacle, and the distinction in the strict definitions of the terms is irrelevant in this case, though definitions are important in others.)

    Well, first of all, I realize that at a certain point, it is futile to argue over the technicals, but to me the technicals tells us a whole lot about who did it, a whole lot. Mainly what we have been able to do is study the different factions in the TM and their "theories" and rule them out, one by one, by strictly looking at what is physically possible and what is physically impossible. It was very important to establish early on exactly what the official story was and then, for example, show that it is aerodynamically impossible for a Big Boeing to travel at 500 miles at low altitude, and Newton's Third Law making it physcically impossible for said plane to meld into a steel building effortlessly. That gets us a giant step forward in showing that there were no Islamic hijackers and all of that planes business and all of our unjust wars and "war on terrorism" was a giant hoax and gives us a much clearer picture and wider field of the people who were the real perps. I just like to focus on naming names, naming the perps, and while they all are in some sense zionist perps, they may not be zionists at all in their own eyes.

    Also, by observing Dr. Steven Jones faction and how it took over 99 percent of the TM from late 2004 and how it evolved over the years and where it is now, we get a very clear picture of how the perps run these ops, and that is always valuable information.

    By the way, from the beginning I did not believe or trust Dr. Steven Jones and I made a strong direction connection of Dr. Jones with the "zion.gov" perps. No one else seemed to do that, but I did. All of the writers for GlobalResearch.ca, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, TUT gang, and Christopher Bollyn e. al. all go along with Dr. Jones theory even though some of these people claim to recognize the zion.gov perps did it. So some of the strongest outspoken people against the zion.gov gang are totally fooled and can't see through Dr. Steven Jones, who is 100 percent government issue. (Also some of the top theorists who claim to be anti-Jones in their ideas are on the same team with Jones, and they probably know they are in on it. It is the Hegelian dialectic at work.)

    I will say more about your disagreement with my theory later but it is important in any murder crime investigation to study how the victim was killed, that is, with what weapon. And if we also discover that the victim(s) are very atypical and non-entities in some cases, then that also not only serves to further kill the official story, but it tells us much much more about how our murderers work. Know your enemy is an essential tenet in finding or getting much closer to the whole truth.

    The "compartmentalization" thing is true in a limited sense but it only goes so far. It has more to do with people individually wittingly or unwittingly submitting to Orwellian mind control, throwing their consciences out the window, and flipping the doublethink switch ON in their minds Many people do not rise in the zion.gov if they are morally and psychologically unable to flip that switch ON.

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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    Here's Spingola's comment on to her latest Sandy Hook show with Wade (posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...fp-412014.html). Apparently, she seems to feel that those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX owe an apology for "deliberate deceptions."

    Deanna said...
    Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. I have never visited the web site that you designed to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? I am always going to side with the children. I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement.

    As I formerly replied to Delphi-Deanna in the mami's comment thread where her Apr 3rd comment above appears, I would reply to her comment "later"... but mami's mod "zapopper" promptly deleted/censored that comment by me. It's been more than easy to "kick the can down the road" in replying; as her comment above is so vitriolic & shrill, that it's emotionally draining spending the time properly addressing all its fallacies.


    So I'll re-paste Delphi's comment below, adding a few paragraph breaks for better readability. And I'll reply in BLUE/ITALIC immediately following those items where I have something to say.


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    Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. From all I've heard of her making her case, "the evidence" she gives the greatest weight to, are the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" .http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018
    Tell us Deanna, what's your take on the Obama administration making an unusual $2.5 million payout to Connecticut law enforcement and emergency response agencies for their participation in the December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School event? This payment took place in late Aug '13, about 4 months BEFORE the release of your prized Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018. Aren't the CT law & emergency services just DOING THEIR JOBS through the S.Hoax "event", for which they already make agreeable salaries?? Might such an "unusual payment" have tainted the integrity of your still pending "REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018?? Or perhaps you view the payment as actually *better ensuring* high integrity in the pending "REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, accounting for your otherwise bizarre answers to Santilli's questions?


    During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Deanna ref's my reply 95 above, which formerly appeared in that mami's thread, but it was (also) deleted/censored by a mami's mod (guessing zapopper). Readers can judge the "obsession level" of Deanna's flurry of Official-JOO-S.Hoax-Story re-bunking shows for themselves. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. Deconstructing the arguments which Deanna puts forth, is quite different from "discrediting her". She's only perhaps "discredited" in the eyes of those for whom my reasoning better withstands scrutiny, than does hers. I detect Deanna posturing herself as the VICTIM™ again. I have never visited the web site that you designed [uuum, NO...] to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. "...all about character assassination..." lol, me thinks the wannabe VICTIM doth protest too much!


    As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. < Asks the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-Story re-bunker whose chosen "evidence" lies almost entirely in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, and also with the occasional JOO YORK TIMES article and such. Oh, and MCP/CIA's "False Flags" book-- where Deanna agrees with the book's assertions of S.Hoax being "real"; while she awkwardly maintains that the Boston charade was an obvious hoax with crisis actors, contrary to that same book's Boston assertions. Deanna's theory is that Boston was staged by TPTB, to take the public's attention off S.Hoax.


    Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Wolfgang's "answers" are all plainly spelled out in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, right?
    Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html


    As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Uh oh, I detect some JEALOUSY here! Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. ?!?! Bizarre statement. Nearly as bizarre as Deanna's answers to Sanitlli's questions about her blind faith in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018.


    Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? Personally I'd expect to remain at home mourning quietly & privately, NOT appearing glowingly on all the joozmedia propaganda organs. YMMV, however. I am always going to side with the children. Deanna and Obama both, then...



    I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I anticipate Deanna will only "change her mind" and conclude SH was a hoax, when all the law, emergency, crisis-actor and joozmedia participants unanimously admit their wrongdoing, return all their "unusual taxpayer-coerced payments" and voluntary public pity donations, and apologize to the world. I won't be holding my breath! I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement. As I said in my intro above, vitriolic & shrill. Shame on Deanna!!
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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

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    I addressed a couple of points to your posting saying you cannot agree with my comment about Santilli and Wood being FBI (or of course higher up the food chain).
    Now I will address a couple of other points of yours.
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    1.
    “. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world. “

    We may “know” is was a zion.gov job but we need to SHOW in every way we can that it was. We need to name names and show all connections, connections blatant and subtle.
    It is not good argumentation to say something like ‘since our whole government is zion controlled, then we can automatically know that Sandy Hook (or 9-11 et al.) were zion.gov.

    As far as …
    “that ought to be our message to the world.”
    I do not belong to any group, never have, and am not part of your pronoun “our.” I am not interested in “unity” or “our unified message to the world.” I am interested in the TRUTH wherever we may find it. Truth is imperfect in this world but we are commanded by our Creator to have a deep love of the truth and to seek it all costs. The amount of fear we each have, fear for our jobs, our families, our lives, always compromises the degree of truth we will find and show in this world.

    Pointing to zion.gov in just about every part of our geopolical system takes great care and intelligence. The Zios know full well how to get us or make us expose them in ways that are careless and unintelligent and can be used against us. In my life, I have found that seeking the truth no matter where it will lead is the best way to avoid the the many traps in my path, traps caused by my own fallen human nature, and traps laid there by the zios.

    2.
    “I'd just remind that a proper agent "deep inside" a given "movement", needs to do 90+ percent cred-building. Consider, Agent ShamShilli is presently on location near Bundy's NV ranch, reporting the twoof! “

    Yes, it is true that agents need to spend time “cred building”, but for Santilli, it is not simply agent building cred. He was knocked for a serious loop by Anonymous discovering he is a paid FBI agent, so Santilli is working on rebuilding or re-establishing his credibility from the ground up. I never thought he had much credibility or notoriety or renown to begin with and I never heard of him until Dr. Fetzer wrote about Santilli interview of Dr. Morgan Reynolds (Dr. Judy Woods close associate).
    I find it hard to limiting myself to the Sham and Shill descriptors of Santilli. How about something like
    Sham ShillSleazy (SSS)
    We must highlight his sleaze or con-man character as he is probably the ChiefSleaze, though largely unknown, among all the alternative internet radio show hosts. SSS is to alternative “truth” radio as Cyrus Scofield is to Christianity.

    I only listened to one show of his, the one where he interviewed Dr. Morgan Reynolds and it was just too easy to see that guy for the total huckster that he is. I am a little slow in identifying other con artists in the “TM” but I am getting much better.
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    3.
    “low-level agents aren't exactly in cahoots with one another; they're kept compartmentalized from one another.”

    I touched on the cmpartmentalization matter in my previous reply to you, but will say a bit more here.

    Some agents are in cahoots with each other and some are not.
    Dr. Judy Wood has a long history with Santilli and Santilli shows, when it started I do not know. I also do not know when Santilli became a paid agent of the FBI. I think Dr. Wood just came on board with Santilli show matters about one year before Anonymous and Susan Posel and Vinny Eastwood blew their story with strong proof of Santilli being FBI.

    Dr. Wood is a smart, sly, calculating person who knows how to get her clutches into a person. It would be especially easy with a no-conscience, ego maniac money grubber flim-flam artist like Santilli. As I said, Dr. Wood is smart and she knows full well Santilli is FBI and she is fine with that. Santilli was probably ordered by the FBI to support and cheer for Dr. Wood’s Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) 9-11 theory, and Dr. Wood is probably directed by “the FBI” to use Santilli’s radio show to promote herself and whatever ideas that go with her DEWs Theory diversions and distractions and prestidigitations the the 9-11 “Truth Movement.”

    (Note, I have always detested referring to those diverse people and groups seeking truth about 9-11 and so many other major issues as being in a “movement.” However, I realize, for shorthand purposes in posting on the web, one has to employ the term. You can see how “the movement” is perfect to be used by the anti-truthers like Santilli, Wood, Sunstein, Spingola, Piper etc. You see all these disgusting people all of sudden showing all this recognition and concern about “the truth movement.” Collectiving the very diverse “TM” people is part of the “unity” manipulation. People who do their best to stay out of groups and movements and seek the truth will be persecuted and ostracized by all the groupies and movement people.
    Also please note that when I say “is FBI” I naturally mean the powers that be in the federal Zio apparatus or the upper echelons of the evildoer pyramid and not specifically the FBI agency. The FBI are the grunts in the hierarchy of evil.
    4.
    As for Michael Piper’s words…
    “someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]" “

    Of course there is some truth in this. You would not expect a 30 plus year full time writer for AFP and Liberty Lobby to throw out a sloppy argument with no truth in it.

    But truth is some of the “agents” are on the same whole agenda while appearing for all the world to be at odds with each other. It’s the old “fake fights” and “fake firings” play acting routines.
    I have observed many instances where I think Zion.gov gives us a shill who APPEARS to be “genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel”
    When the truth is the shill is on the direct payroll of the ADL or AIPAC or black ops federal budgets.
    Don’t you see how USEABLE it is to the Zios to have the controlled opposition agencies, businesses, newspapers, magazines, radio networks, and individual show hosts and writers in their pocket?
    Some people think the main “pocket” belongs to the “globalists, the NOW, etc., but I more and more see that the Zio component is the common denominator at the top, which is really the ultimate bottom of Satanic hellish evil.

    Pat Colo said…
    “So I'd guess ShamShilli's questions of Delphi in their Mar 31 interview were sincere, under the 90+ percent cred-building banner. “

    No, sincerity is simply not in Mr. Sleaze and neither is the quality of sincerity in Dr. Wood. Dr. Wood can feign sincerity as can Spingola, in their individual ways within their very serious and similar psychological pathologies.
    In other words, Santilli, Wood and Spingola, because of their perfect personality and character flaws. Are all splendid actors and deceivers.

    I am going to post again my comment that prompted your response that I am herewith responding to.
    Dachsie Comment # 110
    “If you know about Dr. Judy Wood's behavior in relationship to Santilli radio shows and how Spingola seems one of the charter members of the Wood cult, then you have to know that this whole show with Spingola ostensibly being asked hardball questions by Santilli was pure theater. Spingola had some nonsense statements about SH that she was to get out again, so the questions Santilli asked were designed to fit Spingola's nonsense statements.

    Wood controls Santilli and Spingola. Rest assured that what Spingola is pushing is what Dr. Wood is secretly pushing as well. And this "program" regarding who never to identify as being a major part of the perp team extends retroactively to 9-11 for Wood. And just as an aside, if the FBI controls Santilli (and I think it does), then the FBI controls Wood as well.

    Spingola is a bit further down the food chain and just seems to do whatever her Worshipful Mistress arranges for her.
    Do not think that Spingola is thinking and acting on her own. This jumping the shark by Spingola marks Spingola's permanent departure from being an independent self directed person with her own sincerely held opinions. “

    I stand by my comment more than ever now that I have read the Spingola quote you did in PatColo Comment #113.

    In Comment # 113 showing Spingola quotes…

    Spingola is showing strong paranoid ideations (same as Dr. Wood) and
    Is demonstrating many psychological defense mechanisms, especially Projection, where one accuses others of what oneself is guilty of.
    (Dr. Wood is able to hide her character flaws and personality disorders much better than Spingola because of her intelligence level. Santilli is just your common street hustler who is an open (comic) book.)


    Also note particularly how Spingola touches on all the major concepts I posted about her in my Comment # 110.

    All this focusing on what Spingola deems to be “evidence” is straight out of the Judy Wood playbook and I mean straight out of.

    Spingola has decided to play the government’s game of “it’s FOR THE CHILDREN” and that ploy is as one of the oldest manipulations in the book.
    Also Dr. Wood has probably trained Spingola and how saying you are always on the side of the children is a safe, sure fire way to have yourself always come out smelling like a rose.

    I could go on but won’t.
    I want to focus on my main idea that

    Judy Wood and company are FBI, just like Santilli.

    (Spingola is a second-string player and probably wants out of the game and probably soon will lose her RBN show, and I say do not pay much attention to her.)

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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    Yes, its never a good idea to exclude anyone imo when the search for truth is concerned.

    It is the drawn conclusion to truths that is decided upon by the recipient in any case, anyways.

    Don't fret over drawn conclusions (from your piers even) when the course becomes clear for action it will be clear as an azure and summer sky, and you will either be on your own there, or someone beside you.

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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    Spingola also did a show w/Dave McGowan on the Boston marathon bombing being a hoax, and, if I recall correctly, she asked him if he had had a chance to look at Sandy Hook (with the implication being that that was a hoax as well).
    I haven't had a chance to listen to this 2 hr Delphi/McGowan/AFP podcast; will be curious if SHoax comes up. I predict not, and don't rule out that it's even a pre-agreement for DMcGowan coming on the show (principally to give an infomercial for his new book) that SHoax not be discussed? I see nothing at McGowan's site discussing SHoax:
    http://www.google.com/search?q="Sandy+Hook"+site:davesweb.cnchost.com


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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    Personally, I don't see how anyone can STAND to listen to this woman! Her voice
    is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Also, her "interview skills" have always been less
    than impressive (not to mention her lack of basic grammar). She comes across as a
    complete and total moron. I have never liked her nor "trusted" her.

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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    I used to enjoy her right up until she jumped the shark on the sandy hooknose hoax but I can't stand to listen to her now because of it.
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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

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    I used to enjoy her right up until she jumped the shark on the sandy hooknose hoax but I can't stand to listen to her now because of it.

    I am listening to her "interview" of Wolf Halbig and having a hard time keeping a straight face! She is a shreiking BANSHEE!! He is holding his own pretty well (although I certainly don't agree with his "Israel" comments, but that's beside the point). He is to be lauded for keeping his cool. I would have HUNG UP ON HER RUDE ASS LONG AGO!! All she does is cut him off.

    Evidently all it takes to convince her of government veracity is to peruse "official" reports, i.e. LIES.

    She needs to WATCH MORE TV because she is making ASININE comments about what happens at a crime scene that anyone who watches ANY crime shows on TV knows the answer to!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ipH03rMEE

    The ONLY thing she "got" him on:
    1) His company's mailing address is a rented mail box instead of a physical office address. BFD!!!
    2) He mispronunces some people's names. With English as his SECOND language, she should cut him
    some slack for that. Besides, his English is MUCH better than hers!!!

    UNbelievable; that's all I can say.

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    Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

    Today I listened to the show Deanna did with Piper as guest where they spoke mainly about Sandy Hook and his "False Flags" book.

    All in all I would say that MCP's comments about "the Sandy Hook hoax" and the "Sandy Hook hoax crowd." all amount to an elaborate Straw Man logical fallacy presentation. He glommed onto certain positions of certain truth seekers and exagerated them or took them out of context or twisted them in any number of ways. Classic straw man.

    My random and incomplete observations about this show.

    Spingola said at first she took Sandy Hook to be what the early truth seekers were saying about it but then she read Piper's book and she had an "ah hah" moment and that is when she changed her take on Sandy Hook to believing it was real event. I think somewhere in this thread I read where Spingola claims her opinions are entirely arrived at on her own.

    His choice of words was very curious. For example he referred to the "Sandy Hook hoax CROWD" uses the same word Cass Sunstein often uses --- "CROWD control".

    As for the word "hoax", yes many truth seekers about Sandy Hook do use the word hoax but I think many of these people do so for very logical reasons.

    1. If you look up the definition of hoax and you want one word that pretty well summarizes your findings in your truth seeking efforts, hoax is a very good word choice.

    2. We do not just "throw out" the term "hoax" as Piper does in his Straw Man tirades. We back up, we fully support and document as much as we can, why we say "hoax."

    3. From what I have read so far of the work of people who are seeking Sandy Hook truth, they do not focus on the word "hoax" at all. They just go about showing all the facts on the ground that just do not add up. When you get a large number of glaring inconsistencies or anomalies, things that just do not add up, one naturally begins to think in terms of the word "hoax", but that was never the main emphasis in what I have read. The emphasis was on describing the thing that does not add up and then elaborating on exactly why it does not add up. There are very big things that don't add up, such as that video on YouTube on what look like the Sandy Hook child victims at much older ages, and then there are very small or minor things that seem odd or strange like that woman who remarked how there was not a box of Kleenex anywhere around some person who was being interviewed whose child had just been murdered. I focus on the former.

    Anyway, MCP did a Straw Man logical fallacy presentation on Spingola's show.

    I thought it was interesting how Mark Lane was mentioned at the beginning and how Willis Carto suggested a book title for Mark Lane's book which ended up being published as "Rush to Judgment". That just acknowledged Mark Lanes continuing close relationship with Willis Carto who is said to be the owner and director of American Free Press. So the close association of this Jewish Zionist person with AFP's Carto is not something MCP wishes to keep quiet about apparently.

    http://www.amazon.com/Mark-Lane/e/B000ARBDXG

    (None of Lane's books ever mention a Zionist / Jew connection to any subject he writes about.)

    I read today that Lane went to Guyana and gave a big speech to Jim Jones' ( his legal client) followers there and told them the CIA was coming over with that US Senator to kill them all, not to rescue them and so they all were scared and drank the Kool Aid. Now that is what I call mass murder done with words of Mark Lane.

    Another thing I thought was probably based on what MCP really experiences but which was used or distorted was his talking about ...
    "I have been smeared up and down"
    "people have been trying to get me fired"
    I receive "the most vicious emails"
    emails are "threatening", "Vulgar" and "quite distubing"

    Now this is the tac that Alex Jones often employs. AJ spends a lot of time telling about all the big media people who are writing hit pieces obout him and about all the things big people are saying against him and how he is just continuing to starnd up for truth and he is long-suffering and he just bears up under the onslaught. This is usually done for self aggrandizement but may be more complex motive for Piper using this tac.

    Well, speaking of vulgar emails, here is the the said content of an email that Michael Collins Piper sent to M.C. Anderson... (By the way, M.C. Anderson may just be a "lone nutter" not sure yet)

    ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/.../sandy-hook-hoax-or-truth-tracy-smallst...‎
    Dec 29, 2013 - The Michael Collins Piper (MCP) quote above didn't concern Sandy Hook ... Sandy Hook… the Boston Marathon Bombing… all of these events ...


    “God damn to fucking all Hell of you asshole rumor mongers. Go fuck yourself, you motherfucker. I’d love to shove my cane up your ass and my other cane down your throat and strangle you like you deserve.” ~ Michael Collins Piper (email to the author of this blog)

    _____________

    Jump the shark is what Piper did and in a very covert twisted way, Piper is supporting the Cass Sunstein agenda.

    As for Piper having been fired from American Free Press, I do not know about that but I seriously doubt it. Piper said on this radio show that he was speaking on his own and did not represent AFP at all in his comments. He said he has not been on the staff at AFP for about ten years and has been only a "consultant" to AFP.

    The firing and the consultant bits sound phony to me. There are fake firings and there are fake consultants.

    By the way I do not think Piper has really "jumped shark". He has been operating from the same agenda for 30 plus years. But "it was just time" to stir up the "truth movement" and cause division and confusion and weaken the people on the internet who really were getting more and more together regarding their findings about Sandy Hook and Boston. Piper has been very successful at that.

    Spingola has lost many of her listeners and so has Piper and many others. That was a very Sunstein-like accomplishment for Piper.

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