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    Re: The Organic Economy

    Carl,

    as I stated in my initial post, this is mainly as a result of reading many posts from people over time on various websites that ask what can we do, voting changes nothing, a new political party will unlikely garner enough votes and if they did attain power nothing of real significance will change because of the global power of the mega corporations and central bankers.
    If you read the ebook I explain how I think things may unfold. I also feel that when the 'perfect storm' happens much will be revealed about the true nature of our governments and what has been going on, how we have been deceived and ripped off. Maybe then the majority of people will demand a new way forward as opposed to rebuilding the same systems we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa View Post
    I enjoyed the read. It's nice that you're thinking about a possibility of an upbeat, dare I say Utopian vision for the future. My cynical nature gets the better of me.

    I'm wondering who gets to count all the online votes and who gets to be on the new non-governmental non-authoritative administrative committees? Oops! Sorry about using the words "governmental and authoritative."
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    The actual computing and tally of an internet congress could probably be done with better security and openess than what we have currently.

    But you would still need some sort of open and elected administration to implement and direct it.

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    Credit cards will not be required as interest is abolished but the people will be issued debit/advance
    cards from the nations bank.

    Credit will be called Advanced money, as that is what it is, an advance from future earnings.
    The nations bank will take care of all loans including mortgages and car loans and also offer lines of
    credit or overdraught protection. The rationale being that the bank will do whatever it can to help the
    people as the bank is of the people.

    Evictions because of non-payments of mortgages and rents will be kept to zero or the barest minimum.
    The bank will do everything within fairness to keep people in their homes as this is by far the better way
    in the bigger picture.

    Desperation and poverty can lead to crime and crime is far more expensive to society and in more ways
    than helping a person in hard times keep their home plus they will eventually pay back anyway, just that
    the people’s bank will be more flexible and caring.

    Specially trained councillors will be on hand to help those in financial difficulty. They will help find work
    and other ways to keep them from losing everything should a situation become that dire.

    The days of the cold, hard nosed banking business model will be a distant memory as everyone who is
    employed by the bank or any other administrative department for the country will be mandated to be of
    service to the people and her country at all times first and foremost.

    To see a person be made homeless will be akin to seeing a family member or friend being made
    homeless, we will all do everything we can to end the cycles of poverty, homelessness and desperation
    which affects us all in one way or another, often with drug and alcohol abuse and the associated crime
    to pay for it.

    A society rife with crime and substance abuse is a sick society but this is not the fault of those who have
    made themselves wealthy by hard work, art or enterprise.

    The problem is the systems we have now which do not work for the people.

    The organic economy will address these issues as outlined here.

    The term ‘government’ will no longer be used as will any other term such as ‘authority’, insinuating
    power and control over the people. Control over the people will not be real, implied or imagined.

    This also pertains to the Police who are paid to serve and protect, the term ‘force’ is not necessary and
    will no longer be used.

    The country and regions will be taken care of by administrators who will be highly trained and
    knowledgeable regarding their duties to the people and country.

    All employees of the nation will be well versed that their main obligation is always to the people who
    pay their salaries and to the country.
    This is from the end of page 21 and the beginning of page 22.

    What crack are you smoking?

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    Re: The Organic Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by osoab View Post
    This is from the end of page 21 and the beginning of page 22.

    What crack are you smoking?

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    All those things are already present, are you calling him a radical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horn View Post
    All those things are already present, are you calling him a radical?
    Nope, a communist/socialist/collectivist in disguise.

    edit to add: read the first quote in my sig line.
    “Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses. It is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by osoab View Post
    Nope, a communist/socialist/collectivist in disguise.

    edit to add: read the first quote in my sig line.
    That collective much is obvious,

    the mistake you are making is the Representative form of Democracy, where two wolves decide over a lamb for lunch.

    His is a direct democracy and not subject to such, as the individual is his own representative.

    Carl (your thanker) has a predetermined notion that representatives are slave to him, yet he doesn't expect a revolt.

    A republic form of constitutional right would protect the individual in such a case as direct democracy, as the representative is the individual.

    It is no worse and only could be better than the representative form we have.

    Thusly, henceforth, so let it be written, you have been juxtaposed and lost into abyss.

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    Yes, 51% rule the 49%, democracy, the institutionalization of a two party system, get on board least your vote don't count. Next is civil war because the 49% get tired of eating the scraps from the 51%'s table.
    The only ones who benefit from the conflation of money and credit are the issuers of credit with no money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    Yes, 51% rule the 49%, democracy, the institutionalization of a two party system, get on board least your vote don't count. Next is civil war because the 49% get tired of eating the scraps from the 51%'s table.
    66.6%

    deal with it, Satan.


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