Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[Ares]

Is Cliven Bundy the next Rosa Parks?



Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex4s...ndfUGOb2f7E1Ew

[monty]

Monty might have posted some links to these two interviews with Wayne Hage in a thread here but if he did I didn't find it so I thought I would. These interviews are long but they are very interesting on this subject of ownership and grazing rights. His fight was over the same issues and with the same people Cliven Bundy is in a fight with. Wayne Hage was good at explaining everything and he was a good and interesting story teller. He acquired wisdom from his experiences over the years and it's very interesting listening to him tell his story. Wayne Hage and Helen Chenoweth both spoke to a cattlemans group several years ago I belong to on this subject and it was very interesting to me then and I'm glad I attended it. Last fall Cliven Bundy and Richard Mack also both spoke to this same cattlemans group in my area but I was to busy to attend. Wish I could have made it. Video 1 http://vimeo.com/8520897 This interview was conducted with Wayne Hage at the Pine Creek Ranch in Nevada. One of America's largest ranches, it stretches over 1100 square miles (approx. 760,00 acres). From the time Hage and his family bought the ranch in June 1978 until 2009, they battled the US Government and various environmental agencies over the grazing and water rights, ultimately prevailing at the US Supreme Court level. It became one of America's landmark property rights cases and is studied in law schools today. Part one of two parts is Hage's fascinating account of the events that transpired on his ranch. Hage passed away shortly after these interviews were conducted and we believe that this was the last time he went on camera. I didn't know until I interviewed Wayne that (according to Wayne) much of the water in the United States is owned by United Water, which is in turn owned by the Suez Company located in France but owned by the United Arab Emirates, whose mission is to be the largest water company in the world. This interview is unedited (except for my questions, which were taken out, leaving only Wayne's voice). Video 2 http://vimeo.com/9776367 This interview is the last one that Wayne gave before he passed away. It is a fascinating look at the challenges of ranching life in America. No editing - just Wayne.

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I didn't post any links to those interviews, just a couple of articles in Range Management.

Yes, Wayne and Helen were both interesting speakers. I had the pleasure of listening to both around the dinner table. Wayne Hage also was confronted by armed BLM personnel until he got Sheriff Tony de Meo involved. That put a stop to the threats of felony arrests.

My brother has a few head of cows leased to the Pine Creek Ranch. He also was greeted by the Forest Ranger and his armed goon on his own land. Of course Ray told them to get that guy of my property and go get a deputy if he wanted to come onto prívate property.

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[Bigjon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ilDfAqDNUe4



I am putting this up WAY out of chronological order because of its importance. LVPD Sheriff Gillespie said that the BLM would pull out and release the cattle back to Mr. Bundy within an hour of his (Gillespie’s) speech to the crowd. It did not happen as he promised. Worse, an MRAP and a LVPD SWAT team were only one exit away. Why? After the discovery of the MRAP and the SWAT Team, Gillespie claimed they were to keep the peace. But, if the cattle were released according to the promise of Gillespie, no need to “keep the peace” would have existed. Therefore, Brand and I conclude that a more sinister and deadly trap was being set to end the lives of many people, especially BLM officers, and to use the massacre as an excuse to implement far more stringent and tyrannical controls over the American People. Gillespie sits on the board of the despicable Southern Poverty Law Center and the DHS. This was a highly sophisticated manipulation to kill as many as possible and blame it on the liberty/conservative movement.
http://republicbroadcasting.org/aler...eks-slaughter/

[Ares]

Report: Bundy Family Unearths BLM Mass Cattle Grave

“I feel that this needs to be put out for the public to see”

Mikael Thalen
Infowars.com
April 20, 2014

New photos released by the Bundy family Sunday provided more evidence to the claim that the Bureau of Land Management was illegally killing and burying confiscated cattle.

http://static.infowars.com/bindnfoco...04/deadcow.jpg

Posted to the official Bundy Ranch Facebook page, the gruesome image shows several dead cattle being removed from a makeshift grave discovered just this weekend.

“Digging up 1 of the HUGE holes where they threw the cows that they had ran to death or shot,” the picture’s description reads. “I feel that this NEEDS to be put out for the public to see.”

The picture backs up reports by several people including Nevada assemblywoman Michele Fiore, who commented on the BLM’s cattle graves last Tuesday.

“Near their compound, right off the highway, they were digging holes,” Fiore said. “They tried to bury some cows on the compound, but I guess they didn’t dig the hole deep enough, so they throw a cow in and they put dirt over him and you have cows’ legs sticking up out of the dirt.”

Fiore also displayed several photos on her Twitter account Sunday, labeling the incident the “BLM Massacre.”

http://static.infowars.com/bindnfoco...itterGrave.png

Although the BLM’s court order only permitted the agency to seize Bundy’s cattle, federal agents have thus far already admitted to shooting and killing two prized bulls, claiming the animals were a “safety hazard.”

http://static.infowars.com/bindnfoco...ghterBundy.jpg

Video from the area also revealed holes in water tanks, a smashed tortoise burrow, as well as destroyed fences and water lines.

“They had total control of this land for one week, and look at the destruction they did in one week,” Corey Houston, family friend of Cliven Bundy, told Fox News last week. “Nowhere in the court order that I saw does it say that they can destroy infrastructure, destroy corrals, tanks … desert environment, shoot cattle.”

Separate images taken from an airplane also uncovered hundreds of cattle stuffed into small pens on a BLM compound, prompting the FAA to order a no-fly zone over the area.

Despite a clear and violent overreach by the BLM, Nevada Senator Harry Reid has responded to the incident by calling Bundy and his supporters “domestic terrorists.”

“There were hundreds, hundreds of people from around the country that came there,” Reid said at an event in Las Vegas. “They had sniper rifles in the freeway. They had weapons, automatic weapons. They had children lined up. They wanted to make sure they got hurt first … What if others tried the same thing?”

Unsurprisingly, proof of automatic weapons being present during the stand off between peaceful protesters and the BLM was not provided by Reid. Video of the incident also clearly shows only men and woman, most of whom were unarmed, lined up peacefully.

Whether it be assaulting a cancer survivor, attacking a pregnant woman, tasereing protesters, killing animals or unleashing an attack dog, all extreme behavior has exclusively come from the BLM.

http://www.infowars.com/bundy-family...-cattle-grave/

[midnight rambler]

Death and destruction are good, positive, and constructive things when done in the name of Sata....er, I mean Uncle Sam. What's to complain about??

ETA: That just as easily be 'domestic terra-ists' in that mass grave - afterall our overlords regard us all as cattle anyhoo.

[Libertytree]

Those cockholsters can't even properly bury cattle, even with a fucking backhoe! A bunch of gung ho retards.

[Ares]

BUNDY RANCH: Battle of Bear River Vs Battle of Bunkerville



Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aam4...ndfUGOb2f7E1Ew

CLAIM: 200 Feds staging in Vegas for Bundy Ranch Raid



Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyfT...ndfUGOb2f7E1Ew

[mick silver]

Nevada range war: Western states move to take over federal land

The fight over Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cows grazing illegally on federal land is a symbol of a much larger issue: control of land in western states, where the federal government is dominant.

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/csm_logo_115.jpg By Brad KnickerbockerApril 20, 2014 5:08 PM

Like a mustang tied to a fence post, many westerners for years have resisted Uncle Sam’s control of land they say more properly belongs to states or counties – or to nobody at all except the ranchers, miners, and loggers who work the land for its natural resources.
Related Stories

• Nevada range fight revives 'Sagebrush Rebellion'Christian Science Monitor
• U.S. seizes cattle in rare fight over federal land use in Nevada Reuters
• BLM to pursue effort to end dispute with rancherAssociated Press
• Nevada ranching family claims victory as government releases cattle Reuters
• Nevada governor decries BLM in rancher disputeAssociated Press

The tussle over Cliven Bundy’s 400 cows – grazing on federal land, although he refuses to pay the required fees now amounting to more than $1 million – sharpens this debate, which has featured state legislators, county officials, environmentalists, and federal judges (all of whom have ruled against Mr. Bundy).
In Salt Lake City Friday, representatives from Utah, Idaho, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Oregon, and Washington met for a “Legislative Summit on the Transfer of Public Lands.”
"Those of us who live in the rural areas know how to take care of lands," Montana state Sen. Jennifer Fielder said at a news conference. "We have to start managing these lands. It's the right thing to do for our people, for our environment, for our economy and for our freedoms."
In other words, today’s revival of the “Sagebrush Rebellion” is as much about political philosophy as it is about great stretches of the largely-arid territory west of the 100th meridian splitting the Dakotas and running down through Texas.
RECOMMENDED: The Future of Federal Land in Utah

There’s a modern tea party political element to it, but it goes much farther back to when many western territories achieved statehood in the 19th century, working out deals with Washington (as Mormon Utah did over what adherents at the time called “plural marriages”).
The map accompanying this article shows the difference between the West and the rest of the country. Here’s a list showing percentages of federal land by state, according to the Congressional Research Service. It includes the US Bureau of Land Management, the US Forest Service, National Parks, and military bases: Nevada 81, Alaska 62, Utah 67, Oregon 53, Idaho 62, Arizona 42, California 48, Wyoming 48, New Mexico 35, Colorado 36.
State lawmakers say they’re better prepared to manage such lands, both for the environment and for regional economies.
"There is a distinct difference in the way federal agencies are managing the federal lands today," Sen. Fielder said. "They used to do a good job, but they are hamstrung now with conflicting policies, politicized science, and an extreme financial crisis at the national level. It makes it impossible for these federal agencies to manage the lands responsibly anymore."
Utah has led a legislative charge to demand relinquishment of title to certain lands that exclude national parks and wilderness study areas, reports the Deseret News in Salt Lake City.
The “Transfer of Public Lands Act,” signed into law by Utah Gov. Gary Herbert in 2012, set the stage for a formal showdown with the government by demanding action under threat of lawsuit, the newspaper reports. Other states are exploring similar options.
Often, the political fight centers on some hapless species of plant or animal threatened with extinction and protected under federal law – like the northern spotted owl in Oregon or the desert tortoise in California, Nevada, Arizona, and Utah. Sometimes federal agencies are caught in the middle, trying to apply the “multiple use” doctrine to lands in dispute.
A group of environmental groups recently filed a notice of intent to sue the BLM for failing to report impacts to the desert tortoise and similarly threatened and endangered species from off-road vehicles, cattle grazing and other activities in California.
“BLM says it’s committed to conserving species and habitats in California deserts – yet it has failed to comply with even the most basic requirements for management of desert tortoises and other rare and vulnerable wildlife,” Lisa Belenky, a senior attorney at the Center for Biological Diversity, said in a statement.
A potentially dangerous confrontation was averted last week when the BLM stopped rounding up Cliven Bundy’s cattle, which had been described as “trespassing” on federal land. Hundreds of Bundy supporters had gathered, many of them armed with assault-style rifles and other weapons.
The BLM vows to continue its action against Bundy in the courts, where it has won every decision so far.
But this dispute over a few hundred cows is an important symbol of a much larger issue that’s been part of US western history since wagon trains brought settlers west along the Oregon Trail.
"What’s happened in Nevada is really just a symptom of a much larger problem," Utah House Speaker Becky Lockhart said at the public lands summit.
RECOMMENDED: The Future of Federal Land in Utah

Related stories

• In Pictures The Future of Federal Land in Utah
• Harry Reid: Cliven Bundy's armed supporters are 'domestic terrorists' (+video)
• Nevada range fight revives 'Sagebrush Rebellion'

Read this story at csmonitor.com

[Ares]

Martin Armstrong Asks "Will We Have Another 'Waco' In Nevada?"

The Feds are gathering and have brought in hired guns. We are more likely than not headed into a military confrontation – the first since Waco. Keep in mind that Obama’s head of the Justice Department, Eric Holder now Attorney General, called the shots on Waco back then. He got away with it before – why not again?



Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wWhFm80Phqk

There is a hope that if enough people show up the Feds will stand-down.

The likelihood of the Feds ever backing down is highly unlikely.

The Federal Government is severely disconnected from the people and views anyone who stands up to them as a criminal and domestic terrorist.

This is merely a dress rehearsal for the next 5 years that we face – a rising confrontation between the people and the government.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...er-waco-nevada

[madfranks]

Sheriff Mack was on the radio this morning, doing an interview on my local station, and they were discussing the snipers, and how the BLM doesn't have snipers on staff, and they weren't identified as FBI, so they believe the snipers are likely paid mercenaries.