Large Explosions Reported At Boston Marathon - Photos Released

[Dachsie]

My reply is to comment 414, not to the latest which I just found out about. I may reply to that comment later.

Interesting ideas about TPTB.

In this discussion I had to correct myself and make it clear that I do not automatically believe that AFB is totally "in on" the same kind of false beliefs.

However, when one starts taking a close look at just one person, Michael Collins Piper, one has to eventually start also taken a much closer look and evaluation of AFP.

Piper is either 56 or 58 years old. He has been working as a full-time employee and writer for AFP since its beginnings via Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby and the old Spotlight newspaper.

Piper about a month ago completely "disappeared" so to speak. He is said to have quit or been fired from AFP but there is virtually nothing about this departure of his on the web. Now Piper worked for 36 or 38 years, since he was 20 years old, for AFP. It would seem reasonable that Piper just "retired" with whatever retirement benefits AFP offers their long term, full time employees. Piper did not quit nor was he fired. His departure happened right after he wrote and provided free of charge his book "False Flags" and right after he made it clear that he thought Sandy Hook was the real deal and right after he had that farce of a debate with Dr. Fetzer.

Piper, right before his "disappearance", also made it clear in his later interviews and his last book that ...

He does not think much of people with many advanced degrees;

He has a low opinion of "patriots";

He has a low opinion of the so-called "alternative media";

He has a low opinion of "truthers" or members of "the truth movement";

He has a low opinion of those who "provide the conspiracy theories", that is, those that Sunstein targets in his sophisticated mass mind control of public opinion and control of "crises."

He has a new definition of "false flags:;
(I am still trying to nail how Piper's book defines "false flag" now and how it is that Sandy Hook can be a false flag as he says Sandy Hook and Boston are on page 280 of his book while at the same time saying that Sandy Hook and Boston are a new kind of false flag, are false flag events but in a much different sense than JFK assassination, Oklahoma City bombing, and 9-11. Piper in his latest book actually puts "false flag" in quotes indicating there are "false flags" and then there are false flags.)

He has tediously laid out a set of propositions culminating in his book's thesis. This thesis appears to be a sea change in Piper's facade or personna in the "liberty movement" over the years and appears to be a "reaction" to the Sunstein thesis or agenda which was put out in a paper by Sunstein in 2009.

He claims to be concerned about the "truth movement" and how the world is now perceiving them.

I guess I will not go on although there is more to observe about Piper.

I guess what I am saying is that it is beginning to appear that Piper is operating the "reaction" part of the "problem, reaction, solution" game. This game is also analogous to the operation of the Hegelian dialectic (thesis, antithesis, synthesis) as well as to the "Delphi Technique" where two opposing positions (problem/reaction, thesis/antithesis) are manipulated via the operation of the technique so that a "consensus" (or solution or synthesis) is crafted or reached.

It is very convincing to believe that AFP is truly a real deal, that it is made up of different independent writers with sincerely held differing opinions about events, and that it holds regular "debates" objectively entertaining all oposing positions and position holders as opponents in these "fair and balanced" debates. But I guess I have become skeptical of the "fair and balanced" position and am coming to see that it too can be an "act" to deceive.

I do not know for sure if I am thinking in the right direction toward truth. I just see this "sea change" starting with Piper and being fallen in line with by all the others even though all these others hold different opinions about events than Piper.

Christopher Bollyn, who was a long time ago one of the few full-time employees writers for AFP states that Mark Lane actually owns AFP and Willis Carto was secretly "in with" Mark Lane and funneled a whole lot of AFP money to Lane for "legal fees" in defending AFP. Mark Lane is a Jewish man who has always openly declared himself to be a Zionist. Mark Lane wrote one of the early "tell all" books exposing the JFK assassination conspiracy, or purporting to "tell all." If Bollyn's ideas are true, and I have not fully researched that and have no conclusion at this point, then Piper and AFP actually being sort of on the same side of "Sunstein agenda" would become a slam dunk in my opinion.

Bollyn complained that AFP never seemed to really advertise or market their newspaper intelligently. Bollyn sort of claims he never could figure out that laxity. I think it is possible that Carto and Piper managers of AFP never really intended to market their newspaper to the general public and that their newspaper was always exclusively pointed at the "freedom loving, anti-Zionist" market.

What we could have with AFP is a bunch of Zionists in false cover milking all the money out of a bunch of "anti-Zionists truthers."

I am not intending to argue or disagree. I am just thinking and just sayin and think that all alternatives need to be explored.