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    Re: Geocentrism

    Mulgrew’s Role In Controversial Documentary

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    "Yesterday, many Star Trek fans were confused when they heard that Kate Mulgrew was the narrator of The Principle, a documentary claiming that the sun revolves around the Earth.


    The documentary, produced by Holocaust-denier Robert Sungenis, makes an argument for geocentrism, a theory debunked by Galileo Galilei hundreds of years ago.


    “I understand there has been some controversy about my participation in a documentary called The Principle,” said Mulgrew, via her Facebook account. “Let me assure everyone that I completely agree with the eminent physicist Lawrence Krauss, who was himself misrepresented in the film, and who has written a succinct rebuttal in Slate. I am not a geocentrist, nor am I in any way a proponent of geocentrism. More importantly, I do not subscribe to anything Robert Sungenis has written regarding science and history and, had I known of his involvement, would most certainly have avoided this documentary. I was a voice for hire, and a misinformed one, at that. I apologize for any confusion that my voice on this trailer may have caused.”


    Sungenis runs a website claiming that “Galileo was Wrong – The Church was Right.”


    Physicist Lawrence Krauss cried foul in a Slate article, located here, but unlike Mulgrew, he didn’t even knowingly participate in the documentary. “I have no recollection of being interviewed for such a film, and of course had I known of its premise I would have refused,” he said. “So, either the producers used clips of me that were in the public domain, or they bought them from other production companies that I may have given some rights to distribute my interviews to, or they may have interviewed me under false pretenses, in which case I probably signed some release. I simply don’t know.” "

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    Re: Geocentrism

    Controversy sells. What a horrid man that Sungenis, being a holocau$t denier and all... Gives it street cred, but I doubt it would be bought by the network Telavivzion channels.

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    Re: Geocentrism

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    The Cosmological Principle and geocentrism

    "You may have heard of the documentary film “The Principle” written and produced in the US by Rick DeLano, which is to be released in the Spring of 2014. It features interviews with a line-up of notable cosmologists including Michio Kaku, Laurence Krauss, and Max Tegmark. Many are big bang cosmologists who support the standard paradigm, whose proponents hold to a worldview which assumes there is no privileged frame of reference in the Universe. Others interviewed hold to alternate cosmological worldviews, notably those who hold to the idea that the Earth is in a privileged place in the Universe. I am interviewed in the film."
    "those who hold to the idea that the Earth is in a privileged place in the Universe."

    OMG! Anti-Semitic Cosmological Supremacism... "Check Your Privilege".
    "Trust those who seek the truth, but doubt those who say they found it."

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    Re: Geocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by Neuro View Post
    Controversy sells. What a horrid man that Sungenis, being a holocau$t denier and all... Gives it street cred, but I doubt it would be bought by the network Telavivzion channels.
    The movie will open in theaters. This whole situation is hilarious. These scientists are scared shitless at this point. None of them had any issue with doing the interviews, but now the cosmic writing is on the wall, and they are starting to realize its implications.

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    Re: Geocentrism

    "The Principle" Has A Major Announcement To Make!


    On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, at 8pm Eastern, on Michael Voris' "Mic'd Up" show streaming worldwide on ChurchMilitant TV, the Executive Producer and Producer of "The Principle" will officially announce our release date and additional particulars concerning our upcoming theatrical distribution!

    Heads up!- we will also be addressing in delicious and hilarious detail the various claims which have been advanced concerning our alleged preternatural powers to hypnotize the smartest guys in the world into interviews so we could cleverly edit them into saying they are all geocentrists, and to somehow manage to have Captain Janeway read the entire script of the film into the microphone without ever having understood what the film was about.

    Also, we will address just who might have…you know…sort of "pushed the button" on this comical media narrative, which spread throughout the internet in twenty four short hours.

    Who was behind this amazing example of media buffoonery?

    (HINT: It Ain't The Jews!)

    Do.

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    Miss.

    This.

    One!

    Tally-ho and away we go!

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    Re: Geocentrism

    I have read Dr. Robert Sungenis for a few years and I find nothing to indicate he is a "Holocaust denier." I guess I would need your definition of that term.

    Here is the January 2014 Mic'd Up show Dr. Sungenis did with ChurchMilitant.TV (Voris).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqsVMQGoK0

    Mic'd Up "The Principle: Is Earth Really the Center of the Universe?

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    Following fact referenced in many articles by Catholics in several places...

    The Red Cross itself released it's estimates of all Concentration Camp deaths as 262,000 here: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php...=6924&start=15

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    I had copied several of Dr. Sungenis' articles over the years but now the URLs are no longer working for various reasons as is the following. Archive.org does have quite a bit of the hundreds of great articles he used to have on his site, Catholicintl.org but it is difficult to find things on the Wayback machine in my opinion.

    Dr. Sungenis gutted his website and basically turned it into a store of his books and tapes. I wonder if someone forced that on him. He wrote me an email and said he would send me any old articles I wanted but I did not take him on that. The poor man is under extreme pressure for the stance he has taken against the Jews, and he supports everything he says with quality bible verse exegesis. Dr. S. is now a professor at Fisher-Moore traditional Catholic college in Ft. Worth, Texas. He moved his large family (eleven children) from Pennsylvania to Texas. Good fortune for Texas.

    http://www.sungenisandthejews.com/Section2.html

    From Question #47, November 2006

    Sungenis: "The documented records of the International Red Cross show that there were less than a few hundred thousand Jews who died in Nazi camps, and that most of those were from disease." (October, 2009)

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    “R. Sungenis…. I have my doubts that it was 6 million, but even if it was
    1 million, still, the point remains that they were a marked race by the Nazis. Hitler hated the Jews, not only for what he saw as a youth, but because the Jews had a stranglehold on European finance and banking for many years. There are some stories, however, that suggest these Jewish banking familes actually helped Hitler in his quest, since their objective was to ellicit world-wide sympathy so as to migrate European and Russian Jews to Palestine, their long-sought goal which they have, indeed, accomplished.”
    (End of correspondence)
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    Sungenis: “every place that [the Jews] have beeen throughout history, they have been excised. Because they do the same thing every time they go in there, they try to take over places that they go to! And every time they do, people get wise to it, just we’re doing now, and they get themselves in trouble. And then they wonder why they’re so persecuted, and vagabonds across the face of the earth for the last 2,000 years – well this is why!”

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    Re: Geocentrism

    May 28th, 8 PM EST

    "The Principle" Fights Back! See It Live!

    http://new.livestream.com/churchmili...events/3016104

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    Re: The Principle: GSUS Preview

    Sales lesson #1


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    Re: The Principle: GSUS Preview

    I anticipate that some scientists who opened their mouths and said stupid things about a movie that they freely participated in (and got paid for in most cases) will feel a bit more foolish after tonight.

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    The Principle - Under Attack, LIVE, 8 PM EST

    The Principle - Under Attack

    Spiritual Event

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    Wed May, 28 2014 5:00 PM PST — Wed May, 28 2014 6:00 PM PST
    About

    The Principle has become “the most reviewed movie never to be seen by its reviewers” in the history of films. The sad part is, every review been filled with lies, accusations and insinuations. Some of these lies include such things as: “the participants have no knowledge of ever giving permission to use their names, photos or words in the film,” “the producers of The Principle obtained clips from Youtube, not actual interviews,” “the producers of The Principle duped the participants into doing a movie about geocentrism,” “the producer of The Principle is an anti-semite and holocaust denier,” and many other things. LIVE tonight, producers Rick DeLano and Bob Sungenis, will be defending themselves against these lies. They will be showing the signed release forms. They will also bring a copy of the script to show that Kate Mulgrew knew precisely what she was saying when she did the recording; She was sent the script for her approval weeks in advance of her recording in New York.
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