new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

[Dachsie]

I read the debunking piece about Folks and it was not convincing to me. We have the testimony of Dr. Montheith, retired orthopaedic surgeon, who tells us the Bauman story as presented is just not possible and his statement that he is an actor. As for the other 15 amputees, I don't even think Dr. Stan knows about those. Don't know what the plotters were thinking but they had to know that the Bauman story alone was going to be very hard to sell. Then they throw in 15 more equally hard to sell cases. Everything I have researched so far about various aspects of the amputee cases, and I have sort of stopped now, turns up something that is not clear and does not make sense.

I guess the statement by Dr. Fetzer is just going to fall into the dust bin. Neither he nor anyone else thinks it's worthy of following up on. To me it is bombshell if true.

I think getting a positive ID on just one of the actors and the former life history would be the key to blowing the lid off the event. I would go to the best attorney I could find and ask the proper way to establish this crisis actor identity info so that it would hold up without problems in court. Then if Folks agreed to an interrogatory or deposition with lawyers and tape and film equipment, it could be done in one visit and would be done thoroughly and correctly. That would provide the solid basis for actually going to court.

All of our other observations, no matter how true looking, just are not the kinds of info that will take us anywhere. There may be other evidence that could be strongly established and would be legally productive, but to me establishing a positive ID on an actor, and in the case of the amputees to include the particulars (medical records, etc) about their original injury or disease that caused the amputation, is THE MAIN area that offers the best chance for court action. Again, good attorneys would be able to give us good advice about that, but I realize good attorneys or honest attorneys is somewhat of an oxymoron these days. No attorney I know would touch any of these false flag cases with a ten foot pole.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I just read an interesting article by Jim Fetzer about how sme government officials admitted that Sandy Hook was a drill and no children died:

Sandy Hook Redux: Obama officials confirm that it was a drill and no children died

Jim Fetzer, Sofia Smallstorm, and Paul Preston
Veterans Today
June 14th, 2014
Reader Views: 10,745

- See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/sandy....b27e4krq.dpuf

Here's an excerpt:

“I have a lot of sources in regards to as to what’s going on with the president and the administration and so on, and every one of my sources said it was a false flag”--Paul Preston
Sofia Smallstorm, who produced and directed the documentary, “Unraveling Sandy Hook”, which many regard as the best video study of the Sandy Hook event, recently interviewed a Los Angeles school expert, Paul Preston, about Sandy Hook and his knowledge of what had transpired.
Governor Malloy had held a press conference that day, explaining that he and the Lt. Governor had been “spoken to” that something like this might happen, which raised the question, what “something like this”? Did he mean he had been told a school shooting massacre would take place? or a drill that would be presented as a real event?
Remarkably, we now have confirmation from an unexpected source. Paul Preston had obtained information from officials in the U.S. Department of Education of the Barack Obama administration, who confirmed to him on the basis of their own personal knowledge that:

(1) it had been a drill;
(2) no children had been killed; and,
(3) it had been done to promote an anti-gun agenda.

Given his background of 41 years in the California public school system (from custodian to district superintendent) and having served as a teacher, coach, vice-principal and principal before retiring in 2012 as the superintendent of two charter schools, I thought what he had to say about Sandy Hook deserved widespread dissemination.
- See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/sandy....b27e4krq.dpuf

Hatha

[Dachsie]

Following up on my comment # 1401 above regarding Nathan Folks, more has transpired.

This story is really about the Boston Marathon Bombing (BMB) but since a debunking piece on Folks was linked by PatColo, we now are discussing Nathan Folks and his alleged claim that he, when viewing videos of the BMB, recognized one of the crisis actors as someone he had hired for one of his movies. That was the first mention Dr. Fetzer made of this story. He made the mention on his show in May as a guest of John Friend's The Realist Report show.

Dr. Fetzer at first declared on that show with John Friend that it was Jeff Bauman, alleged bilateral amputee from BMB, that Nathan Folks recognized. But then on a show of about 3 days ago where Dr. Fetzer was the guest of Rock Cash, Dr. Fetzer makes a contrary claim about this incident and claims that he thought Folks was referring not to amputee Jeff Bauman, but to Carlos Alejandro, a person wearing a cowboy hat and appearing in many of the scenes to be in a fake way assisting the injured people from the explosions.

All I know is that this story, when I first heard Dr. Fetzer tell it impressed me of being of monumental importance and was something that could in a very strong way be the kind of evidence that would support a criminal legal case against the planners and plotters of the Boston Marathon Bombing. I have never been able to find any audio recording or any text article anywhere on the web where this claim by Nathan Folks is spoken or written about. Only Dr. Fetzer tells about it and he has never said where he heard this story. It seems very odd to me considering how obviously important this story is that it has only been dealt with in a sketchy, contradictory, and incomplete way and only dealt with at all by Dr. Fetzer on two occasions that I know of.

I posted my facts in a post on Dr. Fetzer's blog and have reproduced it here with the screen name I use on this forum. I was disappointed that so far only one person has commented and Ian Greenhalgh says that he understood Dr. Fetzer's first mention of this story on Friend's show to be referring to Carlos Alejandro. Carlos Alejandro was not mentioned in the context of the story on that show and was not mentioned at all on that show. It was in the entire show context speaking about Jeff Bauman and only Jeff Bauman. I was disappointed because Ian has always impressed me as an honest and reliable informant and his comment seems totally out of character for him.

I do not know if this story and the apparent stark change in the story by Dr. Fetzer is going to continue to be glossed over as being of little or no importance. I hope those of us who think this is an important story are provided with some facts and clarity about this.

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Note my post below on Dr. Fetzer's blog posted here below.


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http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014...l#comment-form

Wednesday, June 18, 2014
Jim Fetzer / Peter Janney
False flags (w/ Rock Cash) / Mary Pinchot Meyer (w/ Gary King)
Posted by Total at 11:05 PM


DACHSIE June 19, 2014 at 5:26 PM

I have heard on two occasions Dr. Fetzer refer to Nathan Folks saying that he had cast one of the crisis actors he viewed on videos of the Boston Marathon bombing.
The first mention was on Dr. Fetzer’s May 23 show and Dr. Fetzer seems to say clearly that it was Jeff Bauman that Nathan Folks recognized as having been hired by him for one of his films.
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014...fetzer_23.html

Friday, May 23, 2014
Jim Fetzer
JFK assassination / Jewish Holocaust (w/ John Friend)
01:56:50 on audio track, [Edit by Dachsie - must recheck time on audio track as 01:56:50 may be incorrect]

“…he [Folks] noticed the man with his legs blown off, presumably Jeff Bauman, doesn’t have blood spurting, he’s not writhing in agony, in fact, and this is quite remarkable, and even Folks observed that he [Folks] actually knew he [Jeff Bauman] was an actor because he [Folks] had cast him in a previous film that Folks himself had made…”

The second mention by Dr. Fetzer of this was on this recording of the recent show he did as a guest of Rock Cash on his

“The People Speak” radio show: www.BBSradio.com

However on this second mention of this, Dr. Fetzer states that he believes it was Carlos Alejandro, not Jeff Bauman, that Nathan Folks was referring to.

About 08:15 on the audio track
James Fetzer:
“…and who has observed that one of the main players there was an actor he had previously cast in on of his own films.”

0:26:45
James Fetzer”
“… We have earlier photographs, by the way, film actually, of him [fellow wearing a cowboy hat – Carlos Alejandro] standing by in the background waiting until he is supposed to begin to perform his role in accordance with a script.
0:27:00
“And I believe it’s this person [Carlos Alejandro] that Nathan Folks is referring to when he talked about having cast him in a fil of his own, the one with which you are familiar.”

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Ian GreenhalghJune 19, 2014 at 8:28 PM

I took it as being Alejandro that Jim was referring to on both occasions, at least that was how it came across to me.
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[PatColo]

Some recent entries @ Dr. Tracy's blog:


June 17, 2014
Obama DOJ in $7.1 Million Sandy Hook Payout ⁵⁹

Home • Tags: police state, Sandy Hook Elementary, state crime

By James F. Tracy

The Obama Administration is giving Newtown another $7.1 million in federal funds for those allegedly impacted by the December 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. The grant comes from the U.S. Department of Justice Office for Victims of Crime, and will pay for long-term mental health counseling for families, law enforcement and first responders. Officials say some of the money will be set aside for school safety measures.
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June 22, 2014
Three Top Officials in Sandy Hook Inquiry Now Out of Picture ³⁹

Guest Posts • Tags: gun control, Sandy Hook Elementary, state crime

By Anne B.

Edited by James Tracy
Three high ranking officials involved with negotiating the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre event have either resigned from their posts or died – Reuben Bradford, David B. Stein and, most recently, William Podgorski.
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June 23, 2014
An Open Letter to Anderson Cooper ⁹⁹

Home • Tags: CNN, journalism, news media, police state, public education, public opinion, Sandy Hook Elementary

By James F. Tracy

June 15, 2014
Anderson Cooper
C/O CNN
10 Columbus Circle
New York, New York 10019
Dear Mr. Cooper,
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June 26, 2014
Corporate Media Complicity in State Crime ³⁸

Guest Posts • Tags: Central Intelligence Agency, government conspiracy, journalism, news media, public opinion, state crime

By Jim Garrison

In a country with advanced technology for news distribution, the removal of a nation’s leader by a coup d’etat will never be attempted unless those sponsoring the murder feel assured that they will have an effective degree of control over the dissemination of the news. Government control must be at a high enough level to guarantee the subsequent distribution of official news releases encouraging the belief that, however tragic the incident, it was essentially meaningless and all is well.
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June 30, 2014
Influential Figures Surround Sandy Hook Crime Scenes ³³

Guest Posts, Videos • Tags: CNN, government conspiracy, gun control, Sandy Hook Elementary, state crime

By Namesnot Mary
Text by James Tracy

New information suggests that important parties with ties to the Connecticut State Appellate Court, Newtown Savings Bank, the United Way of Western Connecticut, and even cable news powerhouse CNN own or are associated with properties in close proximity of the two principal Sandy Hook massacre crime scenes.
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[PatColo]

More recent S.Hoax debates are at AFP's blogtalkradio page. There've been 2 already, and one pending. Here's links to the first 2 completed, then to the pending. I've never really followed Jack Blood, interesting that he's been recruited onto the S.Hoax Re-Bunking team. "It's all in the official reports!!!" lol

Click show titles to listen, also MP3 download links inside:

Sandy Hook: Fact or Fiction

Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Count One, an alias, and Jim Fetzer, who tackle the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event. The debate will follow this format: The moderator will ask questions to each... more

Sandy Hook: Fact or Fiction

Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Keith Johnson and Wolfgang Halbig, who debate and discuss Wolf's upcoming trip to Hartford, Connecticut, where he will lend support to Jonathan Reich and his family and hire an attorney who... more

Sandy Hook: Fact or Fiction

Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Jack Blood and Jim Fetzer, who tackle the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event. The debate will follow this format: The moderator will ask questions to each participant where they will have no more than five minutes to present their argument and evidence. If less than the allotted time is used, it will be set aside for a less structured discussion towards the end. At the end of the debate, each participant will have no more than five minutes for their closing statement. Personal or unnecessary attacks will be met with the mute button. If there are callers, they will be taken during the final hour. Jack Blood has been a radio talk show host for the last 19 years and has interviewed some of the top experts, researchers, investigative reporters, historians, artists, whistleblowers, and political policy makers the world over, like: Jerry Brown, Oliver North, Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, Ron Paul, Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Annie Machon, David Ray Griffin, G. Edward Griffin, Howard Zinn, Jim Marrs, Pat Buchanan, Greg Palast, Jerome Corsi, Daniel Estulin, Daniel Ellsberg, Randy Weaver and Cindy Sheehan. Jack will argue that the Sandy Hook Elementary School event was an actual mass-casualty incident. James H. Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and evolution and mentality. Jim is a contributor and editor at Veterans Today and hosts a radio show, "The Real Deal", M/W/F

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apparently KJohnson comes on at the end of Delphi-Deanna's most recent show and discusses the recent debate(s?). Should be nauseating listening, but I'll give it a go soon...

Spingola Speaks 2014.07.27

Guest: 7/27: 2-3: Art from Philly; 3-4: Suzanne Humphries, MD., Roman Bystrianyk, authors of Dissolving Illusions, Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History; 4-5: Keith Johnson talks about his recent "debate" with Wolfgang Halbig

News Page
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Spingola Speaks .Info


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Posted by Mami at 6:33 PM 2 comments:

[PatColo]

most recent S.Hoax entries @ Prof Tracy's blog:

July 10, 2014
Sandy Hook’s Disappearing Witnesses ¹²⁶

Guest Posts • Tags: government conspiracy, news media, public opinion, Sandy Hook Elementary, state crime

By Tony Mead

Close to nineteen months have passed since the event known as the Sandy Hook Massacre transpired. Amazingly, there has still been no conclusive evidence put forth by any of the families affected or the investigators involved to dispel the many ‘conspiracy theories’ that have evolved from the event. In fact, new mysteries seem to expose themselves even more as time passes by.
More…

July 12, 2014
Teacher Fired for Questioning Sandy Hook ¹⁰⁹

Guest Posts • Tags: gun control, police state, Sandy Hook Elementary

by Prof. Jim Fetzer


[The case of Adam Heller signals a dangerous precedent in the US where federal law enforcement authorities are implicated in subjecting individuals to psychiatric evaluation and financial hardship merely for harboring unconventional thoughts on controversial topics.-JFT]


“Adam Heller, shown in this 2009 yearbook photo, was an English teacher at Fox Lane High School in Bedford, New York before school officials, worried he was mentally unstable, fired him in May”–USA TODAY
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July 23, 2014
The Strange Case of Jonathan Reich ¹⁰⁰

Guest Posts • Tags: police state, Sandy Hook Elementary


By Duke Reichert


Jonathan Reich, a 22-year-old man residing in Avon, New York was arrested in May 2013 for several phone calls he made in January 2013 to the Office of Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver II and other parties involved in the December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. As most readers of Memory Hole are aware, Carver was Connecticut’s controversial chief medical examiner who allegedly oversaw the autopsies of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, then guffawed through a brief press conference with reporters from national media outlets and hasn’t been heard from since.
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[PatColo]

The Sandy Hook Shooting, Why The Official Story Doesn't Stack Up,
Sofia Smallstorm & Ole Dammegard

The World, Why Has It Lost Touch With The Principles Of Freedom?
G Edward Griffin



21 Aug Ole Dammegard Sophia Smallstorm G Edward Griffin Vinny Eastwood Show 2014 - VinnY Eastwood

Sofia Smallstorm presentation on Sandy Hook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64
Ole Dammegard Website: http://www.lightonconspiracies.com
G Edward Griffin Websites: http://www.realityzone.com
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[PatColo]

Halbig on Fetzer's radio show; 2 hours but only the 1st hour is with Halbig re S.Hoax. Only "new development" discussed is Halbig's realization that S.Hoax was a FEMA Capstone Event... and he cited some private org which "writes the scripts" for FEMA's Capstone jobs. Both credited Smallstorm for being the first to observe this Capstone biz. The rest is rehashing the same old fact/anomaly list.

Wednesday, August 27, 2014
Wolfgang Halbig / Gary King
mp3 link ^
Sandy Hook Update / The New JFK Show #24
Posted by Total at 9:53 PM 2 comments:

[Dachsie]

Yes, I listened to that show. Wolfgang just sent out an email to tell us about his choices and plans for lawsuits. Unfortunately the email was lacking working links and the SandyHookJustice.com website just has his latest 6 or 7 pdf files that WH says makes up "the script.: I am curious of where WH got the term "script." That Keith Johnson AFP guy made fun of WH for using that word and that it was not a "script" at all. I just wrote WH and asked him to explain that.

WH's GoFundMe donations have slowed down considerably. They always bump up temporarily right after he does a show with Dr. Fetzer or some other popular radio show, but then they drop off again.

Wolfgang needs to keep his supporters better informed as to the actions, legal and otherwise, he is taking in the short term to get Sandy Hook Justice.

I have only been following Sandy Hook via Dr. Fetzer's articles on VeteransToday.com and I post some pro and con type comments there.

I get very frustrated with some of the articles as they seem to set out all the laws that have been violated by the Sandy Hook plotters but then the article always concludes on just uncovering more "facts" and "evidence" but in no substantive steps to a criminal lawsuit.

That is why I was attracted to Wolfgang's work. Even though his 16 questions are simply local school safety protocol / civil law suit related, at least he was trying to initiate getting people with names into court swearing under penalty of perjury regarding even those relatively minor school safety protocols.

[PatColo]

I still maintain that Halbig's efforts will ultimately prove futile, as far as achieving legal consequences for the Sandy Hoax perps, through our current joodeo-masonized, corrupt to the core "insiders only club" court/legal system.

The best Halbig, and those throwing money his way can hope to achieve, is raising public awareness and skepticism over their gov's conducting of these sloppy, agenda driven false-flag/psyops, thus weakening the "mass-psychological outcomes" which the jooz.gov perps can yield from conducting them.

I've said for years, that same outcome is all "911 Truthers" can hope to achieve with our efforts... but it's an important achievement, as with raised mass consciousness re the evil & deception which djooz.gov impose on the public to (try to...) trick us into complying with djooz.gov's proposed remedy/solutions; enough of the public won't be fooled, and won't cooperate.