Cliven Bundy pays tribute to LaVoy Finicum
One Cowboy's Stand for feedom
Cliven Bundy pays tribute to LaVoy Finicum
One Cowboy's Stand for feedom
The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a freeState”
https://ConstitutionalMilitia.org
mick silver (7th February 2016),midnight rambler (6th February 2016)
I came across this video that's a different view of the funeral procession than MR posted. There are funeral processions like this where I live sometimes when cowboys or old ranchers die.
Their horses are saddled and led riderless by their friends and neighbors for their last ride with them from the church to the cemetery.
There's a local funeral home here where I live that also has a horse drawn carriage that is often used for these processions.
Sounds like there were 2 to 3 thousand people gathered here that feel a lot of hostility for the government and what they did. I don't think this is over yet.
Thought I'd edit to add that I didn't see monty had posted this video until I hit the submit button.
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The old coyote senses danger and sinks into the grass.
He cannot be seen but he watches and waits. Author unknown
midnight rambler (6th February 2016),monty (6th February 2016)
The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a freeState”
https://ConstitutionalMilitia.org
Ares (8th February 2016),midnight rambler (6th February 2016),Tumbleweed (6th February 2016)
The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a freeState”
https://ConstitutionalMilitia.org
Tumbleweed (6th February 2016)
February 5, 2016 How the Bundy Gang Won
by George Wuerthner by
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One consequence of the Bundy Gang take-over of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in central Oregon has been the abundant media attention to their assertions of government “overreach” and “aggressive enforcement“ of environmental regulations that according to Bundy and Gang has driven ranchers, miners, and loggers from the land. Unfortunately, the media have been slow to counter such assertions.
The reality on the ground is much different from the delusional version put forth by Ammon Bundy and militant associates. Most federal and state agencies are lax in their enforcement of environmental regulations. Though many local people in Harney County, where the Malheur Refuge is located, decry the use of armed intimidation and threats, a sizeable minority or perhaps even majority agrees with the Bundy gang assertions that local people should control management of these public lands.
The irony of such claims is that local people already have a disproportional control and influence on national public lands. They can attend meetings, go on field trips, communicate their views through local media and use their connections with local and higher level politicians to promote their economic and other interests.
If they disapprove of federal management activities, local people often exercise social manipulation against federal administrators. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and Forest Service (FS) managers and staff that live in rural areas. Federal employees, like people everywhere, want to be accepted in their local communities. Any manager or staff who initiates management action that upsets the local people or local business interests like ranchers, miners, or loggers, will quickly find themselves socially isolated, their kids mocked or verbally abused in local schools, and at times employees and/or their families are even subject to physical violence or death threats.
I fear that in the aftermath of the Malheur event, no matter how it is resolved, we will see federal administers even more “cowed” by local hostility to national interests. What BLM or FS manager will be willing to restrict or otherwise control activities that damage public resources if he/she knows that local communities like Burns, Oregon, as well as county, state and sometimes even Congressional members are opposed to the laws or regulations these agencies are supposed to uphold?
Several years ago a friend of mine, who is high up in the BLM, attended a meeting of BLM state directors and district managers convened by Department of Interior lawyers. The purpose of the meeting was to inform the managers that Department of Interior legal teams were losing law suits over and over because they, the people on the ground, were continuously violating the law. The lawyers were young and naïve. They thought, according to my friend, that they were telling these managers something they did not know. The BLM field staff sat stoically, with arms crossed, and listened.
Finally one of them quipped, “Yes, I know I am violating the laws. I do it all the time. You know why? Because if I followed the law I’d have every county commissioner, state legislator, the governor and the state Congressional delegation on my ass–and you know what? You’re not paying me enough to take that kind of abuse.”
Then another BLM manager followed up and said, “I don’t follow the law either. I count on being sued by the environmentalists, so that I can tell the delegation or the loggers or the ranchers that I had no choice in the matter. The court is telling me I must do this.” He went on to acknowledge that unless he was sued and had that political cover, he would not enforce the law.
According to my friend, there were a lot of other people in the room nodding their heads in agreement.
With the recent empowerment of militant groups around the West, particularly militants with guns and other weapons, what rational field manager, especially one living in a small rural community is going to challenge the local “custom and culture?” As one of the field managers said, “You’re not paying me enough.” And indeed, we are not.
If I were a BLM or FS official, I would be loath to challenge a rancher or a miner using public resources. To do so may invite an armed occupation or worse. And those employees know that it’s easier and far less dangerous to simply overlook violations and to avoid enforcement actions, except perhaps in most egregious abuses.
Unless these field managers get strong backing from the highest levels of the administration, we are not likely to see this change. However, instead of standing up to the local bullies, usually, it seems the general policy has been of appeasement.
A good example occurred recently in Nevada when the BLM backed down from throwing Cliven Bundy in jail for failure to pay fines, resisting and interfering with government employees attempting to capture his trespass cattle. Bundy remains a free man, and worse his cattle are still ravaging our public domain.
Even after the Cliven Bundy debacle, the BLM backed down again in another northern Nevada incident. Because of the long drought that has engulfed much of Nevada, the BLM closed some areas to further grazing destruction. Ranchers in the Elko area intimated the local BLM officials. In this they were aided and abetted by Senator Dean Heller and Congressman Mark Amodei who cheered them on. The ranchers even denied there was a drought—though that did not stop them from receiving profligate federal drought disaster relief payments.
In the end the BLM caved. Not only did they reinstate grazing to the detriment of our public lands, but John Ruhs, a cowboy friendly BLM manager who negotiated the reversal in grazing management, was appointed the Nevada state director.
Unfortunately such incidents are not isolated, and such intimidation and accommodation has occurred for years.
In the aftermath of the Malheur stand-off, we will see more capitulation to local control and our public patrimony will suffer accordingly. We may remain the “owners” of these federal lands in name, but the defacto control will shift even more towards local economic and political interests. No matter what legal consequences the Bundy Gang suffers, they have succeeded in advancing their agenda of increasing local control of our public lands.
George Wuerthner has published 36 books including Wildfire: A Century of Failed Forest Policy. He serves on the board of the Western Watersheds Project.
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“Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.” ~ Outlaw Josey Wales…
STOP F*CKING WITH US.
This video is a really good interview of Chris Briles the Fire Chief that quit when he saw the corruption in Burns. It's long but it's a really good look at what has been going on there from the point of view of a local. He exposes what the FBI has been doing and also the Sheriff and Deputies. Lots of good information here all the way through that has the ring of truth.
We are all travelers through this world
Birth till Death
We travel between the Eternities. Robert Duval as Print Ritter "The Broken Trail"
I believe the DSCI christians know and speak the truth
https://christogenea.org
The old coyote senses danger and sinks into the grass.
He cannot be seen but he watches and waits. Author unknown
Ares (6th February 2016),Cebu_4_2 (6th February 2016),midnight rambler (6th February 2016),monty (6th February 2016)
i smell another okc in 2016 -- pinned on evil constitutionalists/militias/right-wing extremists
the religion of hate REALLY hates salt of the earth types
PatColo (6th February 2016)
JOOboo's crashed my Thread: UC Davis prof teaching students about weaponized PC, NWO, whining about some inane grievance he has about my choice of writing style being out of compliance with his wishes, beginning with his reply #12.
He reminded me of how terrific it will be when he finally stops bobbing, weaving, tap dancing & JOO-Jitsu-ing; and he simply sources his claim below.
While he's at it, he can also explain to the group his otherwise bewildering worship of his beloved talmudic state.
Below I'll paste my reply #15 from that UC Davis thread, so that everyone can be on the same page as to where things stand.
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Seriously JOOboo?! I've been exclusively calling them "JOO/JOOZ/DJOOZ/DAJOOZ/JOOSH/JOODEO" all these years, and you've JUST NOW decided to get your panties in a bunch over it?
Or perhaps fred/phoenix/crimethink/SACRED HONOR GUYhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 has painfully jammed his fist up your ass and he's commandeered your GSUS postings?
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post745228
So you seriously have no "higher calling" here at GSUS than reducing yourself to SACRED HONOR GUY'shttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 level, JOOboo? You know, like maybe working harder trying to demoralize GSUS readers in the Oregon/Finicum-Murder thread, and encouraging us to join you on your hands & knees worshiping your beloved talmudic-state; your bare ass in the air with a "KOSHER CUSTOMERS WELCOME!!" sign on it?
Like HERE (#381) where you said we "can't ignore what is written"; referring to some fake 'defeatist comment' made by an anon jooz.gov social media astroturfer, to which you added, "Fact is, there isn't much real sympathy for those guys out there."
Or like HERE (#393) where you sought to dis-characterize the length of time the Idaho 3%-ers were on the scene in OR; then when I requested your source (#395), you tap danced around that simple question HERE (#397), and again HERE (#402); and then your Grand Kosher Finale HERE (#425) where you busted a more advanced JOOjitsu move, hoping to dodge my question again by 'answering a question with a question', asking ME to 'prove a negative' instead.
"Our talmudic 'book' AKA JOOboo is disrupting GSUS by attacking
other members over the inane non-issue of what name to call us;
meanwhile hoping they're distracted from noticing how he's trying to
steer their primitive goy minds towards our satanic JWO agenda, LOL!"
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heh, heh heh, heh..."
FAKE "ELECTIONS" - Why Ron Paul Can't "Win"
"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth." -- E. Martin Schotz
Shami-Amourae (8th February 2016)