150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

[7th trump]

Will this thread ever die

Its over...so get over it!
I told you what was going to happen and it did.



Just a bunch of idiots out there. They are subjects on the owners land trying to convince the sheep they arent subjects and torched some land to conceal a crime......bad ending!
Get over the silly stupid shit.

[monty]

Will this thread ever die

Its over...so get over it!
I told you what was going to happen and it did.



Just a bunch of idiots out there. They are subjects on the owners land trying to convince the sheep they arent subjects and torched some land to conceal a crime......bad ending!
Get over the silly stupid shit.

You don't have to read it. Obviously you have no idea of the lifestyle and landrights in the 16 western states. These grazing rights have been bought and sold like real property or passed down through inheritances, recorded in the county court houses since the mid 1800s, a good 80 years before the taylor grazing act. The BLM has no constitutional authority to purchase land. They, though underhanded methods, I have personally witnessed,have caused families to go broke fighting them in court, the ranchers usually prevailing, but financially destroyed and were forced to selL, THE BLM being the buyer. It is time to take a stand and defend the Constitution or forever live in slavery.

[Jerrylynnb]

What bothers me about this episode is what seems like out-and-out murder, premeditated, of Finicum with his hands out in the snow. At least three male figures are shown on that vidoe who are probably taking shots at him, and, then the one from the back just plugs him dead on, making him fall immediately and lay still. Then they just let him lay there, like a dead squirrel hit by a car on a busy road. This is INHUMANE, and, that is why I, at least, keep reading this long thread. I can't believe we here in America keep murderers like that on the payroll and protect even their names from being known and plastered all over on wanted posters.

An earlier post showed his daughters at his funeral making comments in front of some attendees at his funeral. I was mentally comparing their demeanor against that of that "Parker" fellow after Sandy Hook (the one who was joking just prior to getting "into character" before the cameras). These two daughters appeared to be geniune, whereas that Parker fellow appeared to be a slimeball ACTOR, and, that stark difference could serve all of us to discriminate between phony baloney stunts and the real thing. When these two girls told the crowd that they (these two) called him, "DADDY", their voices broke up and I don't believe this was an act, but, it was a natural reaction from loving daughters to the sudden and brutal murder of their father who will no longer be with them.

No, 7th Trump, there is plenty of good reason to keep this thread alive - unless you don't consider blatant murder to be of any consequence, in which case I have to wonder about where you are coming from. For me, and the many other readers of this thread, i want to see the results of a THOROUGH and INDIPENDENT investigation to the killing of Lavoy Finicum - complete with ALL VIDEOS and transcripts of ALL PLANNING sessions by these murderers who set up the ambush on a snow covered highway in Oregon. Until we get to the bottom of this, and, until the guilty parties are IDENTIFIED and properly indicted, we are nothing but potential targets of tyranny and that is not something to be so casual about.

[Tumbleweed]

This is another of "call of duty goddess's" videos that has a lot of food for thought in it. It's speculation on who these people are that are there causing trouble in Burns and what's behind it.

We were lead to believe the Jade Helm exercise was our government training people to fight terrorists in foreign countries but she speculates that they were really training them to fight the american people and crush any resistance to the will of the government.

She compares what we were told about what the planning was for Jade Helm with what's going on in Oregon now and makes connections that are cause for concern in my opinion.

Several years ago I read that our bankers and politicians were making deals to give foreign nations the natural resources in the west on "publicly owned" land if they would keep buying our debt. The Chinese were reluctant because they were afraid that armed americans would resist giving up their natural resources and wouldn't let the politicians follow through with their promises. They've already got our factories and technology, now they want our natural resources. We've been sold out by SOB's in our government.

I've traveled those roads hauling freight in south eastern Oregon and have passed through Jordan Valley, Burns and John Day. It's big, open, empty country and I saw very few people and cattle because it is so big and people and cattle are so scattered. It looks like that whole area is in the sights of the Federal Government for take over.

This video is kind of long but interesting and I believe it may answer a lot of questions about the people that have come in to the area and what they're really up to.

[7th trump]

None of you fools understand the fact you're a subject....you have granted privileges....not rights!

Its like squaters trying to claim something is theirs when you actually hold the deed, title or what ever claiming ownership over the squaters.
I dont give a rats ass if there was 10000 generations having grazing privileges to a particular land mass. It does not trump someone wanting to buy it out from under the grazers who dont own the land. Booo fucking hooo!

Its a dead issue now with someone dead just as I predicted would happen. And all they do is cry, cry and cry. Maybe if these dumb asses had any intelligence they should have bought the land years ago instead of having mere grazing privileges and claiming something they dont own.

You peoples problem is you dont like hearing the truth....................wow!

[7th trump]

You don't have to read it. Obviously you have no idea of the lifestyle and landrights in the 16 western states. These grazing rights have been bought and sold like real property or passed down through inheritances, recorded in the county court houses since the mid 1800s, a good 80 years before the taylor grazing act. The BLM has no constitutional authority to purchase land. They, though underhanded methods, I have personally witnessed,have caused families to go broke fighting them in court, the ranchers usually prevailing, but financially destroyed and were forced to selL, THE BLM being the buyer. It is time to take a stand and defend the Constitution or forever live in slavery.

First clue your clueless....its not grazing rights..........its grazing privileges! Huge legal difference.
Second clue you're clueless.......just because something is recorded in a court house doesnt change a privilege into a right and doesnt trump a damn thing making you owner above all.
I could go on further pointing out your clueless but thats like arguing with a retard.

[monty]

First clue your clueless....its not grazing rights..........its grazing privileges! Huge legal difference.
Second clue you're clueless.......just because something is recorded in a court house doesnt change a privilege into a right and doesnt trump a damn thing making you owner above all.
I could go on further pointing out your clueless but thats like arguing with a retard.

BY 1916 THE WORST FEARS OF THE RANCHERS started to materialize. Their stockmen’s associations began to be weakened by “eastern” professionals, usually foresters,which returned to the original objectives of the northern core interests. The Forest Service became uneasy because the banks were beginning to recognize the rancher’s grazing rights as real property. Says Hage, “Bankers loaned money on the collateral value of the entire ranch including range and water rights on the forest. When ranches were sold the range and water rights were a part of the ranch sale.” 1
http://www.americaplundered.com/opeds/Bundy_Standoff--Part_5.pdf

They were still considered rights, which could be mortgaged even after the passage of the Taylor Grazing Act in 1934 up into the 1970's when the BLM and Forest Service began aggressivly forcing ranchers off the range and outof business.

[7th trump]

BY 1916 THE WORST FEARS OF THE RANCHERS started to materialize. Their stockmen’s associations began to be weakened by “eastern” professionals, usually foresters,which returned to the original objectives of the northern core interests. The Forest Service became uneasy because the banks were beginning to recognize the rancher’s grazing rights as real property. Says Hage, “Bankers loaned money on the collateral value of the entire ranch including range and water rights on the forest. When ranches were sold the range and water rights were a part of the ranch sale.” 1
http://www.americaplundered.com/opeds/Bundy_Standoff--Part_5.pdf

They were still considered rights, which could be mortgaged even after the passage of the Taylor Grazing Act in 1934 up into the 1970's when the BLM and Forest Service began aggressivly forcing ranchers off the range and outof business.

And again you fail to realize in 1916 there wasnt many subjects that were white. Whites didnt become subjects by the hundreds of thousands until after the Social Security Act by which they applied for a ssn.
Show me where in any one of the bill of rights that grazing is mentioned?

[palani]

you fail to realize in 1916 there wasnt many subjects that were white.

Really?

And you have knowledge that this is the case?

How old are you actually?

You do know what hearsay is don't you?

[7th trump]

Really?

And you have knowledge that this is the case?

How old are you actually?

You do know what hearsay is don't you?

Yeah....A good start is to go to the IRS website and see how many people filed federal taxes that year.