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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    As I noted above, the judge is corrupt, the prosecuting attorneys are corrupt, the court appointed defense attorneys are incompetent
    You missed something very important in common with these three elements.

    The "judge" - an agent of the state. The prosecutor (persecutor) - an agent of the state. Both public pretenders and privately-paid lawyers - agents of the state, as "officers of the court." Classic conflict of interest, but through skillful Jew-Jitsu dissimulation, this conflict of interest is dispensed with for (((their))) "fair trials."

    Oh, and they're all part of a private, elitist club..."the Bar."

    If you or I operated such a racket, we would be nailed for, at best, "collusion," at worst, "criminal conspiracy."
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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    You missed something very important in common with these three elements.

    The "judge" - an agent of the state. The prosecutor (persecutor) - an agent of the state. Both public pretenders and privately-paid lawyers - agents of the state, as "officers of the court." Classic conflict of interest, but through skillful Jew-Jitsu dissimulation, this conflict of interest is dispensed with for (((their))) "fair trials."

    Oh, and they're all part of a private, elitist club..."the Bar."

    If you or I operated such a racket, we would be nailed for, at best, "collusion," at worst, "criminal conspiracy."
    I did miss writing it down, however I am aware.

    I believe if I were one of the defendants that I would follow Dr. Trowbridge's lead. (((They))) aren't allowing a fair trial under any circumstances. Besides charging me with criminal contempt or beating me like they have done Ryan Bundy other than outright murder what more can they do?
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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    I did miss writing it down, however I am aware.
    Please don't take my rhetorical statement personal, no disrespect intended.


    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    I believe if I were one of the defendants that I would follow Dr. Trowbridge's lead. (((They))) aren't allowing a fair trial under any circumstances. Besides charging me with criminal contempt or beating me like they have done Ryan Bundy other than outright murder what more can they do?
    Dr. Kaczynski demanded a full trial, since he was going to argue justifiable homicide, but the "judge" ordered his public pretender's plea bargain entered as Kaczynski's formal "plea."

    The "judge" in this case will do whatever it takes to assure the Bundys are painted as "vicious outlaws" who perpetrated "senseless violence."
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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    A 40 minute video on the jury selection process by a woman, Kelly Stewart, who was sitting the courtroom.

    an eyeopenig experience.

    https://www.facebook.com/10001181392...5479282855868/

    That was a pretty good account of what went on in the courtroom and was what I expected. I think the Bundys and their fellow patriots are screwed. The Judge, lawyers and law enforcement are all bought and paid for corrupt no good sons of bitches. I don't think a fair trial is possible the way this is going. I think the Bundys are going to be spending a lot of years in jail just like the Hammonds and they'll probably lose their ranches and businesses.

    There has been a lot of talk on this forum about good cops and bad but I don't think you can trust any of them. If there truly are good cops out there they should be working to get the bad ones thrown out or quit because you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. Lavoy Finicum was murdered by mercenaries and the Oregon State police. Jack Yantis was assaulted and murdered by two Idaho deputy sheriffs and they all walked away and all of them are free to bully and murder someone else.

    Anyone who resists this communist/bolshevik, Jew owned government we have will be imprisoned or murdered just like the people were in Ukraine when their farms were collectivized. The communists want to own and control all the natural resources and when they have them we will all be enslaved to them. They have the politicians, judicial system and it seems the military as well to back them up. It also seems they can kill who ever they want and walk away with no consequences and there seems to be plenty of examples of that too.
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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    From January 7, 2016

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    Dwight Hammond and his wife Susan bought their ranch in 1964. The Hammond ranch consists of 6,000 acres, grazing rights in four areas on public land, and rights at three separate water sources. They live in a small ranch house—a beautiful structure of stone and hand-hewn wood—on the property.

    The land sits in Oregon’s Harney Basin, an area first settled at the tail end of the 19th century. While the narrative we are getting in the media depicts the ranchers as despoilers of the land, implacable enemies of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge established by Teddy Roosevelt in 1908, the true history of the region shows that the “cowboys” who lived there and ran as many as 300,000 head of cattle were in fact its best defenders. Without them, there would be no Malheur Wildlife Refuge.

    As the cattlemen developed an elaborate irrigation system in order to feed their herds, what had been a huge swampland surrounding Malheur Lake was transformed into rolling meadows, wildlife flocked to the area, and it became a favored spot for migratory birds. In 1913, however, the Oregon state legislature passed the Thompson Act, which authorized anyone who won approval from the Land Board to drain any lake and “reclaim” it for development. Drainage districts were established all over the state, and taxes were extracted from landowners in order to further approved development schemes. The Oregon Swampland Act created a “Reclamation Service,” which surveyed and facilitated the drainage of riparian areas, applying for title to lands owned by the federal government, which would then be turned over to developers who envisioned selling plots for agricultural purposes. (As it turned out, however, the land around Malheur Lake was too salty for crops to grow, but since no one had bothered to investigate, this wasn’t discovered until much later.) In 1913, the year the Thompson Act was passed, there were no fewer than eight attempts to drain Malheur Lake filed with the Reclamation Service.

    These efforts were thwarted by the ranchers, represented by the Pacific Livestock Company, who contested the water rights and fought the developers to a standstill. As Nancy Langston puts it in Where Land and Water Meet: A Western Landscape Transformed: “What saved the Malheur Refuge from being destroyed by drainage along with other federal refuges in the region were precisely its tangled water rights and the stubbornness of local ranchers.”

    Yet the federal officials who today preside over the refuge don’t remember or don’t care to recall that it was the ranchers who saved the land from being despoiled. Imbued with what can only be described as an imperialistic impulse, the feds have relentlessly sought to expand the refuge, using every method, legal and illegal, to drive them off the land.
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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Significant? Trump sent letters to political prisoners.



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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Review of Tuesday's court proceedings. This sounds a little more favorable than Monday's selection of thejury pool.

    TRIAL TRUTHS Journalists credit Chastity Bendele 08/23/16

    Posted on August 24, 2016 by The Oath with Chastity
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    JUDGE ANNA J. BROWN
    PRETRIAL CONFERENCE UPDATE

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    Jeff Banta waived his appearance, but was represented by counsel. Shawna Cox arrived about 20 minutes late. The men are pale and looking a little trimmer. Ryan Bundy did have a bruise on the left cheek and extending just under the jawbone. It was a dark bruise, not fading yet, it is in its full bloom. Otherwise, all looked healthy, and Pete was very confident. Ryan Bundy had his Constitution in his pocket, I could not see if Ammon did or not. David Fry sat with his knees up to his chest the entire time and often put his head down, he seemed very removed from the entire proceedings.

    The judge went over the peremptory challenges for each side and has increased the permitted challenges for both prosecution (14 total) and defense (24 total collectively.)
    Voir dire (see our earlier post of what this is) of the jury pool will begin next Wednesday, and Ryan was permitted to have Attorney Root join him as a volunteer paralegal; he may not speak at the table, but can have privileged conversations with Bundy.

    There was a lengthy review of the mishandled Facebook evidence between the FBI and the Department of Justice, US Attorney’s Office in Oregon. The evidence is potentially tainted. This evidence contains Facebook posts, cell phone dumps, and jail kites. The judge is striking her earlier ruling about suppression of some evidence, and the motion will need to be heard again after the government presents an accurate discovery chain. Defense will then file a follow up Motion in Limine to suppress certain evidence. FBI Special Agent testified that this evidence in question was turned over to the FBI Domestic Terrorism Unit (we’ve seen them go this route before—remember the Hammond’s?) If they can’t cheat, they can’t win.

    Court adjourned for lunch and will be back in session at 1:30—full day.

    After lunch, we started off with R. Bundy being admonished that if he keeps bringing up Article III, court jurisdiction that he will lose the right of self-representation. He is treading on thin ice, Judge Brown was fair, but emphatic that the issue had been addressed in previous hearings.

    Attorney, Shindler now presents items for potential suppression in the Motion in Limine.

    7-10 BLM/Refuge employees will testify regarding their closure of Malheur prior to the occupation. Judge Brown clarify’s after a lengthy exchange with the government that, proving impeding is not an element of the conspiracy charge, the agreement to conspire is the clincher. There was much discussion on whether alleged conspirator’s, co-conspirator’s, and unindicted co-conspirator’s action would be taken into consideration. The named defendants are not accountable (prejudicial) for other’s conduct. This evidence is presented against RULE 403 of Federal Rules of Evidence on whether or not it will be admitted. Government attorney Barrow looked very frustrated; Judge Brown held the government’s feet to the fire today on not painting guilt with a broad stroke of the brush and really made them substantiate what it was they were fishing for. She was very fair in applying the rule of law and how it pertains to the admission of evidence. This charge of conspiracy has very specific elements that must be met beyond a reasonable doubt. Proving the mental intent is VERY key and VERY difficult to prove, unless someone admits guilt and takes a plea. FORCE, INTIMIDATION, and/or THREAT are the elements that define “impede.” Judge Brown states that, no one piece of evidence, this type of case is more like putting puzzle pieces together.

    The next suppression issue was regarding guns at the refuge. Intent is to be determined by the jury; were people carrying in self-defense? Guns are legal to open carry in the state of Oregon. There is a difference between “carrying” and utilizing a gun to threaten someone. Defense argued that the guns should have to be specifically tied to people, not just random weapons being utilized to condemn everyone. Some people may have only brought their weapons as a right of carrying, and had no “intent” to do anything other than carry.

    The judge discussed constitutionally protected threats as protected political speech. Erroneous understanding by some at the refuge of “adverse possession,” while not a legal defense to the charge, may be a good faith misunderstanding. Next, there was a discussion about a “guilty mind,” this is known as mens rea in the law—what was the mindset of the accused. The judge will probably offer limiting instruction to the jury in regards to this, meaning they may only consider it exactly as she says it pertains.

    Special emphasis was placed on “conspiracy,” and the fact that AGREEMENT completes the conspiracy, NOT the act of.

    The last item on the agenda for today was Pete Santilli’s Motion in Limine, and the judge quickly went through his items to suppress, but because it was late, she is going to take it under advisement, which means she will review it in her chambers and give her determination in court at one of the upcoming continuing pretrial conferences.

    Court will be in session for the rest of the week. More updating to come…

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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Secret cash payoffs to judges legal by statute . . . . Judge Anna J. Brown Of Portland, Oregon. August 16, 2010

    Payoffs for Judges, Prosecutors Is Legal by Statutehttp://americanfreepress.net/assets/images/rss202.gifBy Pat Shannan
    Anyone who has ever attended an Internal Revenue Service court case likely noticed the biased attitude of the presiding judge in favor of the prosecution. Perhaps, though, only those of us who have sat in courtrooms, in every section of the country, can attest to this unwavering pattern of unfairness. Whatever happened to the judge’s impartial role of “referee”?

    Federal statutes show how and why U.S. law encourages prosecutorial and judicial conflicts of interest, non-neutrality, non-impartiality and corruption of justice in the federal courts. (See page 13 for portions of 5 USC 4502 through 4504 from the United States Code.)

    How can the federal judiciary be independent and impartial when the law permits the federal government to secretly award judges up to $25,000 in undisclosed secret “cash awards,” and to privately, secretly and “erroneously” overpay them up to $10,000, and “waive” these erroneous overpayments?

    How can any defendant be found innocent or “guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” when such statutory “cash award” provisions on their face create an irrefutable, behind-the-scenes incentive for the prosecution? These questions and others must be answered by the U.S. District Court in Portland, Oregon following a lawsuit naming multiple defendants in the Department of Justice including Judge Anna J. Brown, who presided over a trial of “conspiracy to impede the IRS” last November.

    Defendant Roy Bendshadler’s attorney Nancy Bergeson had complained of suspected “jury tampering” and was found strangled to death in her Portland home the next day. Her cause of death was at first passed off as “natural causes” until a second medical examiner changed it to homicide. The murder is unsolved.

    The 94-page action was filed by Michael Sean Mungovan, one of five convicted in the above 2009 case. Mungovan was sentenced to four years in prison on July 28. This was an hour after he had served Judge Brown with a copy of the suit, which should have legally restricted her from any sentencing action over him until it was resolved, according to Mungovan.

    None of this is new to the IRS. Its manual on pages 1,229 to 1,291 (Delegation Orders of January 17, 1983) outlines the IRS system of monetary awards “of up to and including $5,000, for any one individual employee or group of employees, in his/her immediate office, including field employees, engaged in National Office projects; and contributions of employees of other government agencies and armed forces members. ”This would include U.S. District Court judges and U.S. attorneys.

    The Mungovan suit, composed by Utah lawyer Dr. Dale Livingston, explains, “These awards include secret cash awards. They are not limited as to the number of awards that may be awarded to any one person or group. There is no limitation placed upon any award. Any person or group of persons can be awarded this money, including: U.S. attorneys, federal judges, the president of the United States or anyone else for that matter.”



    Livingston added: “The awards may be given to the same person or group, each minute, each hour, every day, every week, every month, every year or not at all. In other words, the U.S. government and the alleged Internal Revenue Service . . . have a perfectly legal (not lawful) system of bribery. The bribery works against the American people . . . when they expect impartial justice, and there is no proof on the record to the contrary.”

    The murder of attorney Bergeson, who only threatened to initiate an investigation into what she believed to have been a stacked jury, sends the warning that Mungovan, by forcing the issue, may have placed a much larger target on his back.

    Lack of space here prevents this writer’s attempt to list all the negative ramifications of such a surreptitious program posing as “justice for all,” but let us consider for a moment a few of the many dubious convictions from the recent decades reported in AFP and The Spotlight over the years.

    How much money did Judge Paul Benson receive for railroading Yori Kahl and Scott Faul in 1983? There was no evidence these young men ever fired a shot in the melee in Medina, North Dakota, where Yori’s father, Gordon, admitted shooting U.S. Marshal Ken Muir in self-defense. Later it was learned this was the same judge that had sent away Leonard Peltier of Wounded Knee fame for life, with no evidence he had killed the two FBI agents found dead after the 1973 shootout. Are judges paid more for high-profile cases?

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    Then there were the Montana Freemen, who were labeled as “separatist outlaws.” In 1996 they were working to expose the banking fraud of the Federal Reserve System. Many of these men are still in federal prison, yet they never harmed anyone.

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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

    Yesterday's court report. Gavin Seim is reporting that Judge Brown is not going to allow Ryan Bundy to represent himself. This woman does not mention that.

    Trial Truths 08/24/15 Judge Anna Brown U.S. District Court, Portland, Oregon

    Posted on August 25, 2016 by The Oath with Chastity

    TRIAL TRUTHS Part 2 By: The Oath https://www.facebook.com/WithChastity
    Wednesday, August 24, 2016

    Today was a continuation of the pretrial conference in which each side’s evidence is being scrutinized for relevancy and admission.

    All defendants were present, with the exception of Jeff Banta AND his attorney.

    This is the second day that Mr. Banta has waived his right to be present. This is definitely something to watch and raise questions about. Mr. Banta did not show up to the refuge until the 25th of January, and then ended up staying until February with the Anderson’s and Fry. Banta is the one that dug the trenches, which are now being used as damages against the other defendants as this, is a conspiracy case. What affects one, can potentially affect all. Where is Mr. Banta, and what IS his job?

    Shawna Cox had Dr. Angus McIntosh call in as a potential land rights expert. While Dr. McIntosh is very knowledgeable in his field, he does not offer any defense to what the occupiers are actually being charged with. Judge Brown determined that he will not be presented as a witness; however, if the landscape that the prosecution presents, takes a path in which Dr. McIntosh’s testimony would be relevant, he will be available for consideration.

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    Next on the agenda—how the charge of conspiracy will apply to the co-conspirators. Three dates were specifically listed in which the alleged conspirator’s had conversations in which co-conspirators were NOT present, but the law is written as such that they will still be liable. The judge did discuss the legal premise of, fundamental fairness doctrine. This essentially implies that the evidence will be weighted in some, to be determined, way.

    The government attorney, Mr. Knight is going to be the attack Chihuahua to watch in all of this. He is small, but his words are mighty. This guy knows his game, so defense will need to be ready to parry his attacks. The government is clearly overly confident of the outcome of this case based on their conviction rates. One almost has the sense that the jurors are just a distracting detail. This case is going to hinge on creating doubt in the jury’s minds, and not letting prosecution get their “preponderance of the evidence” standard in place.

    The judge did not permit a video of Cooper, Ritzheimer, O’Shaughnessy, and Patrick to be entered into evidence as the government could not establish relevance.

    Dr. Caley was called as a potential expert, again in regards to the conflict between the government resource management agencies and the American people. Judge Brown did not permit him to be presented as a witness, as again, he does not offer testimony that is relevant to the elements of the charge of conspiracy.

    The last potential witness was a call-in from Charles Stephenson, an expert on the carrying of firearms. He was called by Ryan Bundy, and several questions were asked regarding brandishing, but again, brandishing is NOT an element of conspiracy, so he too was denied as a witness by Judge Brown.

    The indictment of, conspiracy is completed once there is an “agreement” between two or more parties. THEY DO NOT HAVE NEED TO HAVE ACTED. It is merely by the agreement that the conspiracy is established. The ELEMENTS of conspiracy are FORCE, INTIMIDATION, and THREAT. The government must prove by a preponderance of the evidence that these three elements were perpetrated by the defendants in their interactions with refuge and government employees. Again, creating doubt in the juror’s minds is going to be KEY.

    Court will be in session again tomorrow at 10:00 a.m.

    Stay tuned…

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