Making money on Youtube

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last week I looked up on google and it seems to be like 300 dollars/100k views. It is still good money. Some of the best utubers get 500k views in a week time with one video only, so yes you can make 1,500 very quickly.

My partner and I are considering having a channel since we want to travel while we still can.

[Glass]

PewDiePie has been talking about shutting down his youtube channel for maybe a couple months now. Not sure if it's the most subscribed channel or not but certainly one of if not the most successful one out there if you consider hits, views and probably $$ per video.

Although it's hard to get data on actual $$ as discussed here and in other threads.

Anyway seems YT is hard work. It might start as a hobby or a fun thing and if you get popular you get more hits, more comments and either the public demands or your own personal expectations to increase the amount of content grows. Seems it can grow into a monster.

And everyone's a critic and they have no fear in this instant gratification instant feed back world of Internet to say anything and everything to the people who make the content.

I don't know if PewDiePie is trolling his audience. The possibility is there BUT claiming he will delete his channel when it hits 50,000,000 subscribers. Currently around 49.6 million.

Given that this hobby became successful and now appears to be some kind of burden like a real job, I wonder if he has even taken an actual holiday? Like you would if you had a real job? Throw up a test pattern and go away for 2 weeks OR break it down into seasons like some other channels have done. Have a break in the summer or winter, what ever works best. Do some best bit mash ups? Run some of the funniest subscriber comment exchanges that were posted. Hire some helpers.

Will be interesting to see if the channel is deleted or suspended or whatever. It would be pretty hard to walk away from the residual income or tail, because even though a video might be old, if it still gets views it's still making money.

My guess is he's trolling to hit 50 million subs. Time will tell.

[Glass]

So the PDP guy hit 50 million subscribers this week. A funny thing happened. He deleted his youtube account.

Of course it was not his PewDiePie account with 50 million subscribers but another YouTube account that he had.

Will be interesting to see if the channel is deleted or suspended or whatever. It would be pretty hard to walk away from the residual income or tail, because even though a video might be old, if it still gets views it's still making money.

My guess is he's trolling to hit 50 million subs. Time will tell.

Fancy that.

[PatColo]

Over in the pizzagate thread, I posted some stuff about these YT "bandit re-uploaders" (aka mirrors); but I just noticed this from Bad Guacamole;

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/d7AWf04KsGA/h...UV3BENEN_bbWAc
6:04
Beware This YouTube Account Building Strategy PGate (and other) Shills Use

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• 4 days ago

[Glass]

guys makes some good points. Needs to work on his audio levels though. I get frustrated when I have to up and down the volume control because peoples voices go from regular volume to a whisper.

BUT OT, he is right. Seen plenty of it. I've watched peoples videos thinking I was watching the original makers material only to find later that it was stolen. If comments are open I will post something about it being stolen. I find I am almost always ghosted on YT. I do not know why but from the very start 99% of my comments have been ghosted and it takes the channel owner to tag my posts before others can see it. But sometimes they show up with out intervention. But not often.

It's very important not to let your work get co-opted. A lot of people let others "help" them and then they delegate some task to their "helper" only to find the helper has registered a trademark or copy right against their brand or registered their domain in the helpers name and they lose control of their brand, material and work.... not to mention reputation and any money they may have been entitled to.

I'm watching a couple young YT'ers at the moment who I think are being befriended by such types. I'm concerned they might fall into this trap or share some ideas that will be stolen. We shall see.

Solutions?:
Trust no one with important tasks relating to your brand - (or trust no one period)
Do not delegate registration of anything to do with your brand - name, copyright, domain name
Do not let anyone get access to the monetization parts of your accounts
Watermark everything with something that always points back to you - e.g. a domain name

I realise watermarks can be obscured but if they have to do something obvious to obscure it viewers might catch on.
Maybe put in a statement somewhere.

Seems strange that YT'ers are fighting the same problems that the big studios are railing against.... unauthorised use of their work.

I wonder how much right they can claim when they are using video/audio/written word from other sources like the MSN?

I am also still very curious about how much money can be earned. I've seen some guys go professional YT Content makers on as few as 50K or 60K views per video, a video every 2 - 3 days. It seems like it is enough monetisation to go pro.... although possibly not a whole lot more than subsistence money. I haven't seen any good numbers yet. Only guesses. But there is enough of them going pro at those levels to suggest is a decent return.

[PatColo]

^ yeah I do these daily YT searches for Pizzagate, then apply the Today (trailing 24 hours) filter... Guessing > half the results are from these 2 bandits: "What they won't tell you", and "Exposed Truth." The vids they re-up can be weeks/months old, but they re-title them (something enticing, usually ALL CAPS, MUST SEE! " plus they give it an enticing thumbnail, so you might waste a bunch of time with it before realizing it's old & you've seen it before!

That's why I was asking in the pizzagate thread, if there's some way I can block certain (bandit) vloggers from my search results. But even if that's possible, I'd surely have to be logged in for it to work, which I prefer not to be.

[Glass]

That's why I was asking in the pizzagate thread, if there's some way I can block certain (bandit) vloggers from my search results. But even if that's possible, I'd surely have to be logged in for it to work, which I prefer not to be.

Pat,
I haven't tried this with YT ..yes I have. Seems to work

When you type in the search phrase you can put a space then -<NAME OF BANDIT> to exclude them.

So minus sign(no space)NAME OF BANDIT.

Works on Google as well. I've always used: keyword + keyword -keyword in Google to combine keywords and exclude keywords from search results. Seems to work in YT as well.

I don't log into YT very often because tracking but sometimes I Will, then go through videos and putting them in a Watch later list. Mainly because I block ads BUT occasionally I like to go through the videos and play with ads so the content maker gets their monetization. Then I can simply hit the play them all option and let it run through the videos in the list. Don't even have to be there if I don't feel like it.

[PatColo]

^ ah ok, so a boolean search syntax. I've used it in goog & others forever; incl the + for mandatory words. If a phrase/sentence, enclose in quotes. I wouldn't have expected it to work with vlogger handles though!

You mentioned your comments get "ghosted." I had that happening to me at YT a few weeks ago; wrote about it in the PG thread here. What good does that do anyone?! and YT doesn't tell you, "Awaiting approval" or any such... just seems to try & fool you that everyone could see your comment! I got suspicious when I'd return to comments a day or whatever later, to check replies, likes, etc; and see the comment, but no replies/likes. I went to the page on my other device, not logged into gootube, and the comment was not to be found...

see this vlogger's short vid,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jrvd13bIDUc/h...xYAC2o2aG3p9NU 2:16
YouTube Is Censoring Comments From YOU! #PIZZAGATE

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• 2 days ago

[PatColo]

I just tested your YT Boolean search Glass,

https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=E...n%27t+Tell+You

While it DID omit "What They Won't Tell You" bandit vlogger; it also only returned 11 results!

Similarly baffling when I searched 2 keywords; no quotes or special syntax; just pizzagate pedogate. And YT returned a small fraction of the results it does with only one of those words!

[Glass]

I did this: pizzagate -"What They Won't Tell You"

and got 239,000 results

And don't see that text in my results ?

I have 1 match to that username on results Page 3 then nothing inclusive of results Page 6.

I see lots of A Call for an uprising. I'll run a test excluding them.
Still 239,000 results.

No hits to page 6 for "A call for an Uprising" but 3 - 4 hits per page of results on "What they wont tell you" from results Page 2 through 6.

So it seems like it's really tight on some users and not so tight on others. Perhaps WTWTY gets special immunity?