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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Leftwing tripe media spin. The authors of this hit piece have conveniently cherry picked a few quotes off some facebook pages. I do think Jon Ritzheimer could have used a little better judgement.

    http://www.vocativ.com/388230/bundy-...bama-monument/

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    Bundy Militants ‘Locked And Loaded’ After Obama Monument Push


    The decision by Obama to protect 300,000 acres of land in Nevada prompted new calls for confrontation among American militants




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    Protesters gather near Cliven Bundy's ranch in 2014 — REUTERS/Jim Urquhart

    By Shane Dixon Kavanaugh and Jacob Steinblatt
    Dec 29, 2016 at 3:17 PM ET


    Anti-government militants erupted with fury and calls for an armed uprising after President Obama designated a new national monument in Nevada that includes the site of the infamous Bundy Ranch standoff between right-wing agitators and federal agents.

    Members of the self-styled militias that swarmed to the aid of Cliven Bundyoutside of Las Vegas in 2014 — and who later joined the rancher’s sons to seize a federal wildlife refuge in rural Oregon — said they were readying for another showdown. Obama’s move on Wednesday to protect 300,000 acres of federal land around Gold Butte, close to the Bundy ranch, comes as two dozen people await trials for their roles in the Nevada and Oregon standoffs, which emboldened right-wing militants across America and became a powerful symbol of anti-government sentiment.
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    “Get your gear ready,” wrote Jon Ritzheimer, one of the men who used handguns and assault rifles to hole up in Oregon’s Malheur National Wildlife Refuge for 41 days last year. “Obama just designated the Bundy Ranch a national monument.”
    Others with ties to patriot groups and militia movements online responded with a bit more force. “Locked and loaded ready to go,” wrote Chris Border, a member of the Cliven Bundy’s Army! Facebook group, which boasts more than 2,000 members. “Tired of this crap and time to do something.”

    Whether the tough talk turns into another armed confrontation remains to be seen. “So far it’s just been a lot of posturing,” JJ MacNab, an expert on anti-government extremism in the U.S. and author of the upcoming book “The Seditionists,” told Vocativ. “But members of these groups are looking for something to happen. They don’t really care what it is.

    A number of the militants who took part in the Bundy Ranch and Malheur battles, which drew international headlines, are behind bars.

    Cliven Bundy and four of his sons are among the 17 people who will face conspiracy, obstruction, weapon, threat, and other charges following the showdown with federal agents in Nevada in 2014. The dispute arose after Cliven Bundy refused to pay more than $1 million in fees for grazing his cattle on government land surrounding Gold Butte. When the Bureau of Land Management tried to seize Bundy’s cattle, they were confronted by more than 1,000 anti-government protestors, many of them bearing weapons.
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    Oregon Militants’ Pasts Collide With Vows Of Peaceful Resolve

    Last year, armed militants led by Cliven Bundy’s sons Ammon and Ryan seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge outside of Burns, Oregon, to protest the federal government’s control of public lands. While the Bundy brothers and five co-defendants were acquitted of all charges related to the occupation in October, another seven people will stand trial next year for their role in the standoff.

    In a statement released Wednesday, the Bundy family lashed out at President Obama over his monument designation — but did not encourage a new showdown with the federal government. “This is about control, pure and simple,” the statement said. “You don’t love this land, you have never visited here, but you love being in control of this land.”

    However, other militants are itching for a new battle and are calling on others to join them. “Prepare to saddle up patriots,” said Karl Koenigs, a veteran of both the Nevada and Oregon standoffs. “[It’s] Time for another win.”






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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Information like this never makes the news. From one of Bundy's neighbors whose family was an original settler

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    Leftwing tripe media spin. The authors of this hit piece have conveniently cherry picked a few quotes off some facebook pages. I do think Jon Ritzheimer could have used a little better judgement.

    http://www.vocativ.com/388230/bundy-...bama-monument/

    GUNS
    Bundy Militants ‘Locked And Loaded’ After Obama Monument Push


    The decision by Obama to protect 300,000 acres of land in Nevada prompted new calls for confrontation among American militants




    http://media.vocativ.com/photos/2016...1833803360.jpg

    Protesters gather near Cliven Bundy's ranch in 2014 — REUTERS/Jim Urquhart

    By Shane Dixon Kavanaugh and Jacob Steinblatt
    Dec 29, 2016 at 3:17 PM ET


    Anti-government militants erupted with fury and calls for an armed uprising after President Obama designated a new national monument in Nevada that includes the site of the infamous Bundy Ranch standoff between right-wing agitators and federal agents.

    Members of the self-styled militias that swarmed to the aid of Cliven Bundyoutside of Las Vegas in 2014 — and who later joined the rancher’s sons to seize a federal wildlife refuge in rural Oregon — said they were readying for another showdown. Obama’s move on Wednesday to protect 300,000 acres of federal land around Gold Butte, close to the Bundy ranch, comes as two dozen people await trials for their roles in the Nevada and Oregon standoffs, which emboldened right-wing militants across America and became a powerful symbol of anti-government sentiment.
    MORE
    American Militias Emboldened by Victory at Bundy Ranch


    “Get your gear ready,” wrote Jon Ritzheimer, one of the men who used handguns and assault rifles to hole up in Oregon’s Malheur National Wildlife Refuge for 41 days last year. “Obama just designated the Bundy Ranch a national monument.”
    Others with ties to patriot groups and militia movements online responded with a bit more force. “Locked and loaded ready to go,” wrote Chris Border, a member of the Cliven Bundy’s Army! Facebook group, which boasts more than 2,000 members. “Tired of this crap and time to do something.”

    Whether the tough talk turns into another armed confrontation remains to be seen. “So far it’s just been a lot of posturing,” JJ MacNab, an expert on anti-government extremism in the U.S. and author of the upcoming book “The Seditionists,” told Vocativ. “But members of these groups are looking for something to happen. They don’t really care what it is.

    A number of the militants who took part in the Bundy Ranch and Malheur battles, which drew international headlines, are behind bars.

    Cliven Bundy and four of his sons are among the 17 people who will face conspiracy, obstruction, weapon, threat, and other charges following the showdown with federal agents in Nevada in 2014. The dispute arose after Cliven Bundy refused to pay more than $1 million in fees for grazing his cattle on government land surrounding Gold Butte. When the Bureau of Land Management tried to seize Bundy’s cattle, they were confronted by more than 1,000 anti-government protestors, many of them bearing weapons.
    MORE
    Oregon Militants’ Pasts Collide With Vows Of Peaceful Resolve

    Last year, armed militants led by Cliven Bundy’s sons Ammon and Ryan seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge outside of Burns, Oregon, to protest the federal government’s control of public lands. While the Bundy brothers and five co-defendants were acquitted of all charges related to the occupation in October, another seven people will stand trial next year for their role in the standoff.

    In a statement released Wednesday, the Bundy family lashed out at President Obama over his monument designation — but did not encourage a new showdown with the federal government. “This is about control, pure and simple,” the statement said. “You don’t love this land, you have never visited here, but you love being in control of this land.”

    However, other militants are itching for a new battle and are calling on others to join them. “Prepare to saddle up patriots,” said Karl Koenigs, a veteran of both the Nevada and Oregon standoffs. “[It’s] Time for another win.”


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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Special Agent Dan Love. Deb Jordan posted this on her facebook page. This is probably not news to the regular readers . . . . https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...16338&__tn__=E

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Dr. Angus McIntosh explains grazing rights with Supreme Court Cases . . . . . . Why western ranchers own and do not rent their allotments.

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    Why Ranchers Own their Allotments


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    There are a lot of US Supreme Court decisions on the subject of “pioneer rights”, or settlers’ rights of “possession” or “occupancy” and “use”. The case that specifically refers to “pioneer rights” is Lamb v Davenport, 85 US 307 (1873).

    Arguello v United States, 59 US 539 (1855), refers to a “cattle range” held in possession for 50 years (from prior to the Mexican cession to the US) as sufficient evidence of ownership. Essentially, pioneer rights are equivalent to “possessory” or “occupancy” rights that typically have the sanction of State or Territorial legislation, or; local laws, customs and decisions of the courts; or “aboriginal” title” or “possessory” or “occupancy” rights dating from a time prior to US acquisition through “treaty” (ie. Gudalupe-Hidalgo, 1848, or the Oregon-Northwest Treaty with Great Britain, 1846). This same possessory or occupancy right of “actual settlers” gives the settler a “color of title” which has been referred to as the “preference” right. The preference is the preferred right to acquire the government’s “legal title” when the land occupied or in the possession and use of the pioneer is eventually opened to settlement. (See Frisbie v Whitney, 76 US 187 (1869)). This pioneer right of possession and preference gives the occupant the right to sell his improvements as well as his possessory title, and such ownership will “relate back” to the first pioneer’s date of settlement.

    This is important when you talk about establishing senior water rights and “land use rights” that predate later wildlife, fish, or environmental statutes. The Supreme Court has held that this pioneer/possessory right or title is good against all the world, except the United States as the actual legal title owner. However, once the United States Congress by positive legislation recognizes, confirms, or sanctions a “use,” or grants a right or title, then it is no longer a mere preference or possession. Once recognized or granted to a settler by an Act of Congress, that right could not be defeated by an employee of the Executive Branch (i.e. Interior or Agriculture) who failed to perform their duty to survey and record the settler’s claim, (Shaw v Kellogg, 170 US 312 (1898).

    Regarding stockraising by bona fide settlers on “public lands” prior to passage of the Grazing Act of March 3, 1875 (18 Stat 481), stockgrazing was merely at the sufferance or tacit consent of Congress under a color of title based on State/Territorial “range” laws. While this “possessory/ preference” right was good against all others, it was not good against the United States as legal title owner until validated by, or properly initiated under, an Act of Congress (Frisbie v Whitney, 76 US 187 (1869) and The Yosemite Valley Case, 82 US 77 (1872)).
    However, after passage of the Grazing Act of 1875, Congress validated the right of settlers to “graze” cattle, horses and other stock animals (even to the point of “destroying grass and trees”), on any land open to settlement under the homestead, preemption, or mineral land laws. Of course this was often necessary in order to improve pasture or plant crops. By the Act of July 26, 1866 (14 Stat 253) Congress had already recognized, sanctioned and confirmed ranch settler’s stockwater rights and stocktrail (“highway”) right-of-ways. Therefore, when land in the actual possession of a bona fide settler as a “range” was later incorporated into a federal military reservation, the ranch settler not only owned stockwater rights and stocktrail ROWs, but, had the “preference” right over all others to be “granted the privilege” to continue “grazing cattle, horses, sheep and other stock animals” (Act of 1884, 23 Stat 103).

    Additionally, when the reservation was no longer needed for military purposes, any actual settler (if still in possession) had the preference right to acquire title through the homestead laws or by purchase (Act of 1884, supra).

    A short list of key decisions pertaining to this principle of “preference/possessory rights” related to “range” rights would be:
    Arguello v US, 59 US 539 (1855)

    50 yrs possession of cattle range under color of title gives title good against the United States government.
    Frisbie v Whitney, 76 US 187 (1869)

    Possession and improvement gives a settler a preference right to acquire title, which right land department officers are bound to protect.
    Lamb v Davenport, 85 US 307 (1872)

    Possessory rights and improvements could be sold even before any act of congress was passed allowing for disposal of that land.
    Atherton v Fowler, 96 US 513 (1877)

    Possession of an enclosed range and improvement of the forage was sufficient to establish possession and defeat later homestead claimants even if the enclosed land far exceeded the amount allowed under the homestead laws. The first settler was entitled to compensation as owner of the forage cut and removed by a second fraudulent claimant even if the legal title to the underlying land was still in the US.
    Hosmer v Wallace, 97 US 575 (1879)

    Where a settler was in possession or occupancy of thousands of acres as a stock ranch the land was segregated from appropriation by later settlers.
    Griffith v Godey,113 US 89 (1885)

    A settler in possession of thousands of acres of a cattle range, controlled by his ownership of water rights in key springs and of a homestead was the owner of a property right in the range.
    Wilson v. Everett, 139 U.S. 616 (1891)

    An expansive cattle range on the Republican river and its tributaries covering portions of Colorado, Nebraska, and Kansas was a possessory private property interest subject to recovery of damages.
    Cameron v United States, 148 US 301 (1893),

    Possession and improvement of thousands of acres as a cattle range gave color of title or a claim that removed the land from the class of “public lands” and therefore the enclosure of such was not a violation of the Unlawful Occupancy act of 1885.
    Lonergan v. Buford, 148 US 581 (1893),

    An expansive cattle range together with all water rights, fences and improvements thereon covering portions of Utah and Idaho was possessory private property capable of sale and subject to contract enforcement.
    Swan Land and Cattle Co. v Frank, 148 US 603 (1893),

    A large cattle range in Wyoming together with water rights, and improvements were possessory property rights subject to actions at law for recovery.
    Catholic Bishop v Gibbon, 158 US 155 (1895)
    By treaty possessory rights of settlers in British Oregon shall be respected.
    Grayson v Lynch, 163 US 468 (1896)

    A cattle range suitable for pasturage, watering, and raising cattle in New Mexico was a property right such that the owner could recover for damages caused by diseased cattle being driven across his range.
    Tarpey v Madsen, 178 US 215 (1900)

    Possession implies improvement and settlement with intent to acquire title when land is opened for disposal, but cabins, corrals improvements for hunting, trapping, etc. also allowed.
    Ward v Sherman, 192 U.S.168 (1904)

    A large cattle range, cattle then on the range, and the desert wells were all private property subject to sale and mortgage.
    Bacon v Walker, 204 US 311 & Bown v Walling, 204 US 320 (1907)
    Idaho range laws recognizing settler’s right to exclusively graze lands within two miles of their homestead did not infringe on United States’ underlying title.
    St Paul M&M R Co v Donohue, 210 US 21 (1908)

    All public lands were opened to settlement and entry after 1880 and a settlers’ improvements were sufficient notice of his claim to defeat later claimants.
    Northern Pacific R Co v Trodick, 221 US 208 (1911)

    Until a local land office was established and a survey conducted the rights of settlers in possession of public lands could not be defeated by either subsequent withdrawal or grants to third parties.
    Curtin v Benson, 222 US 78 (1911)

    Where a settler owned seven scattered parcels of land connected with 1866 Act rights-of-way, intermingled with 23,000 acres of range rights, before the United States included that land into a national park, the possessory range owner did not afterwards have to acquire a permit prior to using his property rights.
    Under the Forest Reserve/Homestead Acts of 1891/1897 (26 Stat 1102/30 Stat 33) all land withdrawn as Forest Reserves that was occupied by “actual settlers” (possessory range rights), and was valuable for “agriculture” (stockraising), not only had “preference” rights attached to them, but also had a network of easements, water rights, Right Of Ways, and improvements that belonged to the bona fide settlers (Act of July 26, 1866 (14 Stat 253), Livestock Reservoir Site Act, 0f 1897 (29 Stat 484), and cases cited above).

    The Act of 1880 had opened all the land in the West to settlement, and had recognized settlers’ improvements and possession were sufficient to put any later claimants on notice that the land was already occupied (Cox v Hart, 260 US 427 (1922).

    The free Homestead Act of 1900, (31 Stat. 179), opened all agricultural public lands acquired by treaty to settlement and entry free of charge (except for filing fees).

    In1902 Congress enacted the Reclamation Act (32 Stat 388), which altered the policy of granting specific acreage amounts of Desert Land (i.e.160, 320, 640, etc.) and adopted the “Unit policy” which instead granted to a homestead entryman an “amount of land sufficient for the support of a family”. The same policy was followed when Congress enacted the Forest Homestead Act of June 11,1906 (34 Stat. 233, 35 Stat. 554) which included a “preference” right for actual settlers to enter any number of 160 acre tracts up to the amount of their actual settlement. In1910, Congress authorized the granting of “allotments” to Indians “occupying, living on, or having improvements on” land within National Forests “more valuable for agricultural or grazing purposes than for timber” (36 Stat 863).

    This was the law as it existed in 1912 when Congress amended the 1880 Act for Relief of Settlers (37 Stat. 267) and recognized a “preference right” of settlers to an ‘additional entry’ under the “enlarged homestead provisions” of the Desert Land Laws to claim an amount of land to the extent of their occupancy and possession as long as their boundaries were plainly marked.

    In1916 (after 17 years of debate) Congress finally passed the only Homestead Act specific to livestock production, the Stock Raising Homestead Act. The intent of the SRHA was to make a permanent disposal of all the remaining approximately 600 million acres in the West “chiefly valuable for grazing and raising forage crops.”

    (Stock-Raising Homesteads, 1916. House Rep. No.35. 64Th Cong., 1st Sess.) Section 10 of the SRHA provided for the withdrawal of 600 million acres under the 1910, Pickett Act for “classification” so the range could be surveyed, and allotted as “additional entries” under Section 8. Where an entryman had paid the required fees, made the required improvement and cultivation, and the size of the unit was determined and the plat returned, the entryman had done all required and the equitable title was vested in the entryman (Irwin v. Wright, 258 US 215 (1922)).

    By an Act for the Relief of Settlers of March 4, 1923 (42 Stat 1445) Congress allowed settlers under previous homestead acts to convert their “original” or base property entries to either Desert Land (Enlarged) Homestead entries or to Stock-Raising Homestead Act entries in order to change their required “proofs” to $1.25/acre “improvements”.

    See also the Act of June 6, 1924 amending the SRHA (43 Stat 469). Both the Desert Land (Enlarged) Homestead Acts and the Stock-Raising Homestead Act also allowed “preferential” or “preference” right “additional entries” to the extent of the settler’s actual possession (where his boundaries were clearly marked), of an amount of land “sufficient for the support of a family”

    The Pickett Act in conformance with Section 10 of the SRHA provided authority for the creation of grazing Districts outside of National Forests, and the President began creating Grazing Districts in 1928. The Taylor Grazing Act provided for administration of Grazing Districts and provided a formalized process for establishing them. The TGA did not affect valid existing rights, and allowed for ranchers to complete their improvement requirements under section 8 of the SRHA.

    This classification, adjudication and surveying was accomplished between 1916 and 1950. The SRHA Act was the grant from Congress, the survey of the ranges into allotments the recording of the maps, improvement of the additional entry to an amount equal to $1.25 per acre, and return of the maps to the ranchers in possession was all that was required by the statute, (see Sellas v Kirk, 200F.2d 217 cert. Denied 345 US 940 (1953). See also Shaw v Kellogg, 170 US 312 (1898).

    Some bureaucrats would have people believe that somehow the Federal Land Management and Policy Act (FLPMA) of 1976 somehow changed 130 years of Congressional grants and property rights. FLPMA itself contains 2 pages of “savings provisions” intended to “grandfather” in place all prior existing rights. FLPMA specifically states “All actions by the Secretary [of Interior] concerned under this Act are subject to valid existing rights”. If it was true that FLPMA was intended to extinguish all of ranchers (and anyone else’s) property rights, then Congress the next year would not have provided for the protection of ranchers’ property rights under the Surface Mining Reclamation Act of 1977. (91 Stat. 524, Sec. 714, 715 and 717).

    An example of prior existing rights is the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. In 1908 President Roosevelt, established by presidential proclamation a Bird Reserve (subject to prior existing rights). Thirty four years later the Ninth Circuit Court ruled in United States v. Otley, 127 F2d 988 (1942), that not only did the prior existing ranchers living adjacent to Malheur Lake have the absolute right to graze and cut hay within the reserve, but actually owned half of Malheur Lake itself. In 1942 the government paid for the right to construct roads, phone lines, plant trees, build fire towers, and build water control dams and structures. For the next thirty years these ranchers continued to graze cattle and cut hay. This all changed with a change in management at the Reserve/Refuge in the 1970’s. I’m curious as to exactly what was in the original 1942 purchase agreements. What rights were reserved in those agreements? Why is this new generation of Feds trying to force out the Hammonds by ignoring 18 USC 1857 that exempts “allotment owners” from the criminal arson provisions? The biggest question I have is why do the people of Harney County believe anything the Federal employees tell them when there is a proven history of them lying to ranchers about prior existing rights (U.S. v Otley, 1942)?

    Angus McIntosh, PhD
    Range Allotment Owners
    https://i2.wp.com/freerangereport.co...size=177%2C177

    Angus McIntosh is the Executive Director of the Range Allotment Owners Association. He worked for Western Fuels Energy from 2008 through the end of 2013 and then accepted the position of Director Natural Resources Law & Policy Research with Land And Water USA Foundation. Beginning in August of 2014 he taught Agriculture classes at the local High School and was an adviser to the Future Farmers of America kids. He an Adjunct Professor of Agriculture at Texas A&M University and teaches online courses.

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    The ranchers are simply responding to terrorism.
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    The ranchers are simply responding to terrorism.
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    30 days to trial. Magistrate Peggy Leen reccomends Judge Navarro Deny motion to dismiss 924(c)

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    Peggy Leen Recommends Motions to Dismiss 924c Charges be DENIED

    Chief Judge Gloria Navarro Will Decide

    Magistrate Judge Peggy A. Leen has recommended that the District of Nevada DENY motions from Pete Santilli and Ryan Payne to dismiss counts 3, 6, 9, and 15 (“Use and Carry of a Firearm During a Crime of Violence”) who aregued that portions of 18 USC 924(c) are “void for vagueness” similar to recent rulings on similarly worded and applied statutes. The US Supreme Court (SCOTUS) recently ruled in Johnson v. United States, 135 S.Ct. 2551 (2015) that portions of the Armed Career Criminal Act (ACCA) were unconstitutionally vague. That ruling was the basis for a split decision in the 9th Circuit in Dimaya vs Lynch where decisions on the process for determining if a felony was “violent” were determined to be unconstitutionally vague as well. Dimaya was decided in the context of immigration, but the language of the statute and applicability is nearly identical to the standard usage of 18 USC 924(c). Leen issued a recommendation that the motions be denied, leaving the ultimate decision to Navarro.

    The Government Doubled Down On Its Position

    The US Attorneys argued on behalf of the government that Johnson and Dimaya provided no direct legal implications on the standard applicability of 924(c). Despite lengthy, compelling arguments from public defenders, they argued that circuit courts were split on the Dimaya issue and that other district court rulings should not impact current practice as it relates to applying the clause in question. The 924(c) charges, which allege that a predicate offense constitutes a crime of violence, in this case, because the defendants were lawfully armed, all but guarantees an effective life sentence upon conviction.

    “Justice” Isn’t A Factor

    It is clear that the US Attorneys intend to pursue a grossly egregious penalty that far outweighs appropriate punishment for the ~alleged~ crimes. Judges in the 9th Circuit have ruled that Dimaya would, in fact, be binding precedent IF this were a case involving 18 USC 16(b) – (which is identical in wording to 924(c)) – and the charges would then have to be weighed in a purely Taylor categorical approach (which would cause most, if not all of them, to fall off). If Dimaya isn’t binding, then the District of Nevada has the ability to decide if these charges should stand for trial. Leen has postured the court toward a degree of rigidity that outright denies the merits of the arguments of public defenders. She states on page 25 of her ruling:
    A number of well-reasoned district court decisions in this circuit have held that Johnson II and Dimaya compel the conclusion that the residual clause of § 924(c)(3)(B) is constitutionally vague.
    She also points out that the circuit courts are split and that the 9th Circuit hasn’t ruled outside of an immigration context. On page 26:
    The court will take the Ninth Circuit at its word and will avoid deciding the constitutionality of § 924(c)(3)(B)’s residual clause in a pretrial motion to dismiss based on the well settled principle of constitutional avoidance.
    Rather than examine the possibility that the Government has unleashed an avalanche of excessive litigation by levying “enhancement” statutes, Leen is recommending that the court avoid the issue altogether, even though she admits that other districts in the circuit have not.

    This equates to a pursuit of vengeance rather than a quest for justice. This is our judiciary, the legal puppet of an out-of-control government drunk on its relentless blood lust for the acquisition of rural western land.

    Someone Is Wrong…

    Leen’s insistence that Dimaya is not applicable in the case before the Court stands in direct contradiction to numerous other rulings in the 9th Circuit.


    • Northern District of California, District Judge Edward Chen: United
      States v. Baires-Reyes June 2016

    Applying the reasoning of Dimaya, the Court finds that Section 924(c)’s residual clause is unconstitutionally vague. Although Dimaya concerned Section 16(b), Section 16(b)’s residual clause contains the same exact language as Section 924(c)’s residual clause, and Dimaya’s analysis of whether Section 16(b)’s residual clause is unconstitutionally vague under Johnson is equally applicable to Section 924(c)’s residual clause. Like the ACCA, Section 942(c) requires the application of a categorical approach, which requires the Court to determine what an “ordinary case” of the crime involves without providing any “reliable way to choose between these competing accounts of what a crime looks like in the ordinary case.”

    • Eastern District of California, District Judge William Shubb: United
      States v. Lattanaphom Feb 2016

    The only binding authority in the Ninth Circuit compels this court to find § 924(c) void for vagueness. The Dimaya court extended Johnson to a statute with identical language as that in the § 924(c) residual clause and cannot be distinguished.

    • Northern District California, District Judge William Orrick: United States v. Bell Jan 2016

    While the Ninth Circuit made clear that this holding (Dimaya) does not extend beyond the scope of the facts before it, that does not mean that the reasoning from the decision cannot be applied elsewhere. Here, as in Dimaya, the “minor distinctions between the text of the [ACCA residual clause] and that of the [section 924(c)(3) residual clause]” fail to “undermine the applicability of [Johnson II’s] fundamental holding to this case.”

    • District of Oregon, District Judge Anna Brown: United States v. Bundy June 2016

    Unlike the Sixth Circuit in Taylor, this Court is not empowered to decline to follow Dimaya. As the Taylor court noted, “§ 16 (b) appears identical to § 924 (c) (3) (B) in all material respects.” Id. Accordingly, because the Court is bound by Dimaya, the Court must conclude§ 924(c) (3) (B) is void for vagueness. As a result, the Court cannot rely on the residual clause in § 924 (c) (3) (B) to conclude that § 372 is a crime of violence.

    • Eastern District of California, Chief Judge Lawrence O’Neill: United States v. Rubio Nov 2016

    Nevertheless, because Dimaya is binding upon this Court, and the language Dimaya held to be unconstitutionally vague is exactly the same as what is contained in the § 924(c)(3) residual clause, the Court finds it cannot escape the conclusion that the § 924(c)(3) residual clause is unconstitutionally vague.

    • Eastern District Washington, District Judge WM Nielsen: United States v. Sutton Apr 2016

    The residual clause of § 924(c) defines a crime of violence as a felony “that by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense.” The Ninth Circuit examined an identical residual clause found in the immigration code and deter-mined that it “requires courts to inquire whether the conduct encompassed by the elements of the offense, in the ordinary case, presents a substantial risk of force” just as prohibited by Johnson. Accordingly, the Ninth Circuit invalidated the unconstitutionally vague definition of crime of violence “an offense that is a felony and . . . that by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense.” 18 U.S.C. § 16(b). Thus, despite the several differences the Government notes between § 924(e) and § 924(c), there is an extremely high likelihood, perhaps even a certainty, that the Ninth Circuit will eventually determine that § 924(c)(3) is unconstitutionally vague.

    • District of Nevada, District Judge Jennifer Dorsey May 2016

    I find no basis to distinguish 18 U.S.C. § 16(b) from § 924(c)’s residual clause or Dimaya from this case. Though many districts outside of the Ninth Circuit have declined to extend Johnson to § 924(c)’s residual clause, none of those courts are bound by the Ninth Circuit’s decision in Dimaya invalidating the INA’s identically worded residual provision. The binding authority in this circuit thus compels me to conclude that 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(B) is unconstitutionally vague. I therefore grant defendants’ motion in part and dismiss count two of the indictment because it can only be based on § 924(c)’s residual clause, which I find void for vagueness.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Eric Parker & Steven Stewart to call Aurthur B. Alphin, firearms expert to testify


    Parker and Stewart to Call Expert Firearms Witness

    Arthur B. Alphin frequently testifies in firearms-related cases…

    Eric Parker’s legal counsel, on behalf of Parker and Steven Stewart, filed an expert witness notice on Thursday, 05 January 2017 announcing intent to call firearms expert Lt. Colonel Arthur B. Alphin USA (Ret.). Alphin, a graduate of the West Point Military Academy, retired US Army Lt. Colonel, and founder of A-Square (manufacturer of hunting rifles), is a frequent contributor in cases where firearms are an integral element of the trial.

    Alphin to contradict Government’s embellished narrative…

    The filing (ECF No. 1242), states that Alphin will testify: (from the filing)
    Parker and Stewart did not possess assault rifles, were not snipers, and were not in locations that gave them a tactical advantage. He will also testify about the defendant’s firearms and their condition as well as their general ability to inflict harm based upon the firearms themselves, defendant’s training and experience, and the terrain and conditions in the Toquop Wash on April 12, 2014.

    Mr. Alphin will also testify as to the items taken form Mr. Parker and Stewart that were entered into evidence and their relevance/irrelevance.
    This will directly contradict the Government’s relentless, baseless, and patently false narrative that Parker, Drexler, Stewart, and Engel were “gunmen-followers” who deployed at the command of mid-level organizers to execute a massive armed violent assault on federal officers for the purpose of retrieving Cliven Bundy’s “trespass cattle”.

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