Pizzagate

[Dachsie]

Just as an aside ---I watched some PG video channel today and they said UK's Echo Truths lady was kicked off of YouTube. I have watched so many PG videos lately and have been following all the questionable things youtube is doing to creators that they are all blending together.

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Will analyze and respond to PatColo's idea.

}Dachsie: my working hypothesis is still, the tip of the PG iceberg emerging in late Oct set TPTB reeling, and over the following ~10 days they concluded KillaryCo who'd long been slated to "win" the fake election, was just too great a liability esp with the new threat of PG unraveling & overturning the whole bagel cart. Wasn't a left v right or demrat v repug dirty tricks thing as they're all as dirty wrt PG. Consider how the whole "threat of (((fake news))) emergency" psyop was rolled out across the whole left >> right (((media))) spectrum, and remains in play today."

I certainly appreciate different theories expressed here. I guess I just am still sorting through it all.

One thing we know for sure -- the accuracy of the emails leaked and published has never been in dispute. None of the to or from people have ever disputed the emails themselves. OK, so that part is solid / non negotiable - no theories needed about the content of what Wikileaks has leaked or published.

Something that is very much unclear or not set in stone is the question...

Is Wikileaks CONTROLLED?

To me, several things tell me it is. As one simple quick example of what makes me think Wikileaks is controlled is that thing where Pamela Anderson went to visit Assange in his confinement. That was a totally controlled scripted and filmed propaganda stunt and had to come from pretty high up in the food chain.

So lets carry this line of reasoning along a bit. (I do not think I will set out the line of reasoning that Wikileaks was totally acting independently and was not controlled by any very high up entity as that requires me to be way more naive than I already am.)

Whoever is controlling Wikileaks is very high up, like TPTB level.

So the controlling is of what nature?

The content of the emails is not messed with or controlled but...

who effects the original leaks of the emails from their original source?

Was it the Dr. Steve Pacynick "good guy" group or was it another faction of the high level TPTB that are said to be warring with each other?

who makes sure the leaks reach the desired sole destination of Wikileaks?

The controller of Wikileaks biggest lever is controlling WHEN Wikileaks publishes or puts out there or leaks the emails to the public. That is where the real power of the control is. Knowing the crucial time to let them out requires very sophisticated Cass Sunstein kind of knowledge of what makes certain groups within the public tick, that is, exactly how they will react.

It seems obvious to me that the time leading up to voting day, October 2016, was THE most fertile time range for leaking certain emails to prompt certain kinds of responses from the voters.

The particular emails leaked in October were leaked in a very stagey scripted manner with lead-up, teasers, and hints that some big batch of emails was really going to be bombshell. Like the way some big new movie about to premiere is built up and promoted. This is when we curiously started observing several Left wing journalists commentators come on the scene really playing it all up, and all of a sudden looking very Rightie.

The emails were about Hillary and then there were the Podesta emails. So all the junk exposed about the Clinton Foundation and all the laws broken by the Dems and Hillary and Bill was coming to a head via the leaks at the same juncture that Podesta / Spirit Cooking , pedophilia and Satanic child sacrifice came to the public. Whoever was choosing which emails to leak KNEW exactly what would really slam-dunk the voters and the election outcome in a certain direction and they apparently desired the outcome that was effected.

That is a little of what I would say to support the idea of Wikileaks being controlled and controlled by the same folks who wanted to control the election outsome in one direction. It would seem to lend support and credence to Fitzpatrick's hypothesis that it was "the GOP." Fitz then went down a few wrong roads but his basic idea is not weak or crazy. There is much to support it.

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I guess what I am saying is that there is quite a bit to say against the idea that

"the PG iceberg emerging in late Oct set TPTB reeling"

I think the TPTB are likely the same folks who control Wikileaks and they are by no means only "the GOP". TPTB knew exactly what they were doing in letting certain emails go out from Wikileaks at desired times for their desired results. It was very high level psyop strategizing where they were not "set reeling." Repeat - They knew exactly what they were doing. But it is way too simplistic to say that THEY are "the GOP."

______\\"Wasn't a left v right or demrat v repug dirty tricks thing"

I agree completely with PatColo on that idea.

But THEY, TPTB as I define THEM, certainly wanted very much to pawn off this production as just that - just more of the old simple dem v rep campaign dirty tricks - nothing big or new here. That was THEIR plan on how they wanted this to be used but what was really sophisticated manipulation is that they also wanted at the same time to let the huge cat out the bag about child sex abuse and trafficking and homosexual / pedophilia connections but not really mentioning that that was the big bombshell thing they were really letting out of the bag right before voting day. In a strange sort of way the Wikileaks power structure seemed also to just want the surface interpretation of high level politicos doing dirty tricks big time but slyly under the table really hammering, without saying anything in words, with the big hammer that really effected the outcome they wanted.


The guys who really started research PG issues from these Wikileaked emails are not the kind of people who do not already know that this evil goes way beyond Dems v Rep or Liberals verses conservatives or whatever. These kind of PG researchers could not be manipulated in such a simplistic way, especially on the subject of Satanic ritual abuse, torture, child / human trafficking. These kind of PG researchers have been studying those subjects for over twenty years at least.

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\\"they're all as dirty wrt PG."

No lo contendere there, PatColo. But that supports my idea that ALL the controllers of Wilileaks are way above Dem Rep level but not way above Satanic Pedo Murder level.

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"Consider how the whole "threat of (((fake news))) emergency" psyop was rolled out across the whole left >> right (((media))) spectrum, and remains in play today."

That fake news thing was ready for off-the-shelf , just in time infliction upon the public It was ready and planned out ahead of time. I just don't think it was an emergency response, though it may have been a Plan B response. THEY had to know to some extent the real bombshell they dropped and how the intended target audience would react / respond.

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But here is where I kind of agree with you about TPTB set in to reeling mode...

THEY thought they could accomplish all their goals and they saw that they got Trump elected and that goal was accomplished.
BUT THEY thought they could roll out all these propaganda scams, several of them still being rolled out now, and totally control the public reaction to PG truth bomb they dropped. But it is that public reaction that they see that they cannot control and they are indeed reeling. That is demonstrated by their having to roll out the "fake news", throwing Hillary and Bill under the bus - can't use them anymore, throwing the whole Dem party under the bus, Russia did it, and latest roll-outs seem to be taking down social media and YouTube and the Internet in general - that's a biggee. They're having to sacrifice their control of the Internet. They have already thrown under the bus TV and print MSM.

People are just keeping on keeping on in shining the light of truth of PG. That is what is out of control for THEM. They are scrambling and pulling out their heaviest artilliary now. I just think the One who is really in control of this out-of-control 99 percent is going to surprise everyone in His way of solving this.

One thing we the PG researchers have to be very careful of is to watch what roads we may be pushed in to going down,. and there are several and all wrong. I see people who seem to be saying, since there are no arrests of the big name pedophiles, we have to get physical and do street protests big time and say we need a revolution. They want to excite or gin up impatience and strong anger. Enter Soros rent-a-mobs. In other words TPTB's heaviest ammunition is to push us to situation where they can do their desired police state totalitarian control of us who are marching and protesting in the streets.