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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    Quote Originally Posted by Glass View Post
    Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.


    This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

    From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.
    It isn't real photos of Moon transiting earth, every single image of earth is the same still photo which is a 3D composite. Look at the cloud systems, they don't change at all, they are only rotating the 3D composite image of earth.

    But, just because these images are faked, doesn't mean that the earth is flat.

    However the proportions of the moon transiting the earth at a million miles of distance or so, is correct though. The moons diameter is about 1/4 of earths. Objects appear closer to each other when they actually are when viewed from long distances with a magnifying camera lens.

    Since earths diameter is about 4x that of the moon, your notion that earth would cover a huge part of the sky from the moon is easily debunked. Take a photo of Goldie's fist as she shakes it towards the sky, at a mile distance, with the fist right between the strong magnifying camera and the moon. Now the fist would appear small vs the moon disc, and very near to the moon. Would you assume from this photo, that if you, against better judgement for sure, walks up the mile to where Goldie's fist are, would see a Moon that is covering a large part of the sky, which the photo taken a mile away would imply?

    Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

    Sheesh this is VERY basic stuff in understanding spatial proportions.

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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    .... until then I will continue to take it with a grain of salt

    Quote Originally Posted by Neuro View Post
    Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.
    All the money that exists cannot buy Earth, and the evidence is that we destroy our habitat as a result, thinking that we can just seize and pillage as we see fit. If crowds endorse the pursuit of wealth at their own level, they cannot prevent multinationals from doing exactly the same. The “dystopian endless growth paradigm” is going to end with a bang but will open the door to a premise endorsing that Earth is the only wealth we truly have while journeying through life.

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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    Quote Originally Posted by singular_me View Post
    a grain of salt
    Which likely has more common sense than you.
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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    Quote Originally Posted by singular_me View Post
    .... until then I will continue to take it with a grain of salt
    You won't, the phrase in itself suggests you base your judgement on reasoning. The size and distance to the moon was well known long prior to any space programs, accurately calculated using not particularly complicated trigonometrical calculations. I assume you are not sure about trigonometry when you say you are going to take "it" with a "grain of salt". Essentially you are rejecting Pythagoras most important contribution to humanity.

    Just because the photo's are doctored doesn't necessarily make the proportions faulty.

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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    Crrow777 show back to it's roots and talking about what equipment you need to film the moon. Some suggestions on where to start and where you might want to go, upgrade wise.

    First hour:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsxGMx7cr4A

    Talks about a fairly cheap very high zoom camera being sold out there for around $500 - $600. Taking a look here, I've seen it at quite good prices. About the same in our dollars as in USD which is unusual. It is a non detachable lens which might be limiting if you want to connect it to a telescope but it does have a very high zoom which you would need a very big telephoto or a telescope to achieve anyway. Telescope brands, sizes, lens connectors, tracking etc.

    Nikon Coolpix p900. Even if you're not interested in the moon... you might be interested in the camera. It does have very impressive zoom.

    He has another new show. Saturnian Vatican, Jesuits and Roots of Western Religion
    Not listened yet, 1st hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02iVaQCiLY

    Edit: Listening to 2nd hour of Filming the moon program. Talks about observation stories of Jupiter being occulted by the moon and that Jupiter goes black but can still be seen while it transits "behind" the moon. I've heard the story before but never looked for sources of the stories.

    Also talks about Moon Eclipses of the Sun and being unable to see the moon until it starts to cross the lim (limb ? not sure of the words spelling) of the Sun. I would call it the rim or edge of the Sun. Questions why, if the Moon is in the same day lit sky as the Sun, why it can't be seen, with the sun light apparently shinning on it as it heads towards earth. Logically it should appear as a shadow in the sky even on it's approach but cannot be seen until the occultation occurs. I don't know anything about this but heard him say this before. Would be interesting to verify during a moon eclipse of the sun.
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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    Quote Originally Posted by Neuro View Post
    It isn't real photos of Moon transiting earth, every single image of earth is the same still photo which is a 3D composite. Look at the cloud systems, they don't change at all, they are only rotating the 3D composite image of earth.

    But, just because these images are faked, doesn't mean that the earth is flat.

    However the proportions of the moon transiting the earth at a million miles of distance or so, is correct though. The moons diameter is about 1/4 of earths. Objects appear closer to each other when they actually are when viewed from long distances with a magnifying camera lens.

    Since earths diameter is about 4x that of the moon, your notion that earth would cover a huge part of the sky from the moon is easily debunked. Take a photo of Goldie's fist as she shakes it towards the sky, at a mile distance, with the fist right between the strong magnifying camera and the moon. Now the fist would appear small vs the moon disc, and very near to the moon. Would you assume from this photo, that if you, against better judgement for sure, walks up the mile to where Goldie's fist are, would see a Moon that is covering a large part of the sky, which the photo taken a mile away would imply?

    Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

    Sheesh this is VERY basic stuff in understanding spatial proportions.
    I'm fairly certain I didn't say anything there about the earth being flat?

    And yes it's a composite as nearly all of them are... which is part of the point..... which you continually skirt around and try and insert other things that you argue against rather than admitting you agree. NASA are just making shit up and people people have no critical thought capacity... which is the whole point of the discussion. AND the atmospheric magnification effect won't account for the earth disk appearing to be the same size as the moon disk.... when its a factor of 4 times larger, not 4 percent, not 40 percent BUT 4 times +.

    If you were standing on the moon that is in that NASA transiting video and looking at the earth where is is, it will fill the sky as it appears to in that video. It should dominate the moon sky on the side facing the earth. That is how it should look in other images apparently taken from the moon and they simply don't. So again NASA are just making shit up. Some of it or all of it. I'd suggest all of it and just sometimes they produce something that has plausible perspective. I guess at least we can agree on that if not the specifics of "the shit".

    And to be 100% clear I said Disk meant what we see as a 2D view in the sky not a 3D volume (spherical) in which case the earth is ~13 times larger in volume (13 if IIRC).

    edit: maybe I should correct this and call it Disc instead of Disk.
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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    Which likely has more common sense than you.
    yeah, according to NASA pix, earth appears to have the same size than the moon's from the same distance between the two

    that's common sense


    Good job Glass
    All the money that exists cannot buy Earth, and the evidence is that we destroy our habitat as a result, thinking that we can just seize and pillage as we see fit. If crowds endorse the pursuit of wealth at their own level, they cannot prevent multinationals from doing exactly the same. The “dystopian endless growth paradigm” is going to end with a bang but will open the door to a premise endorsing that Earth is the only wealth we truly have while journeying through life.

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    Re: Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

    Quote Originally Posted by Glass View Post
    He has another new show. Saturnian Vatican, Jesuits and Roots of Western Religion
    Not listened yet, 1st hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02iVaQCiLY
    I've listened to the first hour of this. They discuss exactly the things I raised in Cheka's thread on Baal tribute here.

    Also deals with Jesuits and their oath to destroy all Protestants. Catholic church is focused on ancient babylonian deities in practice while mouthing worship of God and JC.
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