Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[monty]

Jury Stats from the Review-Journal with commentary by Stacy B.

Edit: The jury was deadlocked 10 to 2 in favor of the defendants on the conspiracy charges.



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[monty]

Kelli Stewarts comments from facebook

Kel Stewart was live.21 hrs

Jury tampering from the supporters outside the Nevada Court house?

Here's my take on the verdicts today.

Quote from Ammon Bundy after he heard the verdict , "No suffering was relieved today. The courts, the attorneys, the marshals and the Judge will continue to be the only ones to benefit through financial gain."
Greg Burleson guilty on 8 counts, Todd Engel guilty on 2 counts. (Hung jury results: 10-2 on everyone but Parker who was 7-5, all favoring the defense)

I'm hearing from the court house that Todd's charges are the least offenses and he will likely get time served since the max is 1 yr 1 month for what he was found guilty of. Greg will likely spend the rest of his life in prison.

As of now The government is saying that Todd Engel will not be retried in June, nor will Greg Burleson, they will drop the other hung jury charges on them and only continue going after the 4 who had full hung juries. We shall see..

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American Justice - The Bundy (hung jury) verdict, the government, and American Justice from the American Thinker

April 25, 2017
The Bundy verdict, the government, and American justice

By Leesa K. Donner
Perhaps it is not too much to say there is no other event in America today more polarizing than the standoff at Bunkerville. Liberty-minded folks who wish to dial back the reach and power of the federal government see Bunkerville as a touchstone. Others, however, see the case of the United States v. Cliven Bundy et al. as a bunch of vigilantes and a law-breaking cowboy out make their own rules and ignore those the rest must follow.
Yesterday, a jury in the first of several trials reached a partial verdict regarding six men who joined Mr. Bundy in his fight against the federal authorities in the 2014 standoff. Each defendant faced ten charges, including obstruction, extortion, weapon violations, threatening and assaulting a federal officer, and conspiracy.

Prosecuted in this case were Eric Parker, Scott Drexler, Todd Engel, and Steven Stewart, who are all from Idaho, while Richard Lovelein hails from Oklahoma. Greg Burleson, a defendant who was also named during the trial as a longtime government informant, is from Phoenix, Arizona.
Amid a heavy media and law enforcement presence outside the courtroom, the following verdicts were made public, according to reporter Jenny Wilson of the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Gregory Burleson, former FBI informant, is guilty of eight counts – but not of the conspiracy charge. Todd Engel was found guilty on two charges, obstruction of justice and interstate travel to aid extortion, and the jury is hung on the rest. Federal judge Gloria Navarro has reportedly sent the jury back to deliberate further on the other counts.

At its core, this story is about land rights, ownership, and power. It is a long, complicated, and winding tale that began back in 1989 over a desert tortoise. Designated as an "endangered species," the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) designated "hundreds of thousands of acres of federal land" for conservation, as reported by The Washington Post.

This did not sit well with Cliven Bundy, whose family homesteaded his ranch back in 1877 and called the move a government land grab. As well, others were upset and felt the heavy hand of the federal government on their backs. But it was Mr. Bundy who ultimately became the unmovable object that ignited a militia of freedom fighters out to stop the U.S. government.

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Artist Micah McGuire* illustration used by permission

Thus, the existential question "What happens when an unstoppable object collides with an immovable object?" became a reality as an armed citizen resistance met up with armed federal officials in April of 2014, and the standoff at Bunkerville ensued. Observers of the event say it was nothing short of astonishing that no one was killed.

Though the standoff ended without fatalities, the legal battle had just begun. The U.S. government wields an enormous amount of power that is nothing with which to be trifled. Weapons may have been put down, but sides were drawn up, with the first of several controversial court cases coming to an end yesterday.

Freedom fighters who stand with Mr. Bundy are labeled fringe conspiracy theorists the likes of which critics say hearken back to places like Ruby Ridge and Waco. On the other side stand federal officials armed with the law and the sheer force and power of the U.S. government. Some see it as the classic David versus Goliath. Others see this as a case of a vigilante trying to get his way.

The complexity of the case came to a head in a Las Vegas courtroom, where witnesses to the proceedings cried foul, citing prosecutorial and judicial misconduct. One courtroom observer was removed from the proceedings crying, "Treason, treason!" Indeed, there do seem to be legitimate concerns of just how the trial was conducted and if lawyers for the accused were truly able to mount a reasonable defense on behalf of the six men involved in this first Bundy trial.

Author Kit Perez recently captured the spirit of the debate when she wrote:

The real story here isn't about grazing fees, taxes, ranches, or anything else. At this point, the story is that a vengeful federal government – forced to back down from their illegal, unconstitutional and immoral activities – decided to seek vengeance in a courtroom against the people who had the guts to stand and say no. If that's not a government out of control, what is?

Increasingly, many across this country view the authority, jurisdiction, and sovereignty of the government as oppressive. They do not plan to suffer it or surrender what they believe to be their God-given rights. Their defiance will continue to develop into confrontation. Their struggle and resistance will persist unabated. Today's verdict will do nothing to stop it and may indeed do much to propel it forward.

If this does amount to a metaphorical David and Goliath story, it seems Goliath has won the first battle. But the question remains: who will win the next campaign in a war that is not likely to end anytime soon?

Leesa K. Donner is editorial director of LibertyNation.com.

*McGuire is an upcoming defendant in the Bundy Trial

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...#ixzz4fJFTlLqK
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

[monty]

This video is an interview with Brand Thornton from May 2014 regarding the FBI's interest in him at Bundy Ranch. The inteviewer is a retired Lt. Colonel. His channel currently features videos on Trump's latest shenanigans: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCEo9S5mMQ7z4n7ZiuUoBFRw

I am a former US Army LTC of 28 years. I served in various Military Police and Military Intelligence positions around the globe. I was also a municipal police officer for about 3 years. I bring my unique experience, training, education, and spiritual insights to bear in analyzing important issues and trends in the U.S. and the world.https://m.youtube.com/undefinedTWITTER @RoystonPotter

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I haven't watched any of his current videos




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[monty]

Another video from April 13, 2014 regarding Clark County/Las Vegas Metro Police Sheriff Gillespie and his SWAT team presence from Retired Lt. Colonel Roy Potter's jewtube channel



https://youtu.be/ilDfAqDNUe4

[monty]

Live video conversation recorded earlier today 4/25/2017 between Kelli Stewart, Ammon Bundy's attorney Morgan Philpot and a Mr. Rick Koerber. I believe Koerber works with Philpot' s office.

https://www.facebook.com/freecapital...type=3&theater

Video has been uploaded by Lo K



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[monty]

This sounds really f'ked up.

Deb Jordan,
The jury found first round of defendents NOT GUILTY of conspiracy, then went back and changed their minds because of confusion


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JURY FINDS FIRST ROUND DEFENDANTS IN BUNDY CASE - NOT GUILTY OF CONSPIRACY!! THEN BECAUSE OF CONFUSION THE JURY CHANGES IT'S MIND. CLEARLY THE JURY DID NOT THINK THEY WERE GUILTY. BUT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED BURLESON WAS GUILTY OF EVERYTHING ELSE AND FOUND HIM TO BE -- THEY WENT BACK AND CROSSED OUT THEIR ORIGINAL RULING --- IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?? NAVARRO POLLED THE JURY OVER THIS BEFORE SHE READ THE VERDICT BUT NEVER ASKED IF THEY NEEDED CLARIFICATION -- WHAT A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE THIS IS!!

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Edit: comments posted on facebook re the altered verdict

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Teresa Brookshire Right.
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Buzz Izard Teresa Brookshire so sad that this judge is clearly at fault for this whole miscarriage of justice , I have lost faith in our judicial system , something is terribly wrong here ,
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Buzz Izard Teresa Brookshire my continued thoughts and prayer for all..
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Teresa Brookshire There definitely were check marks beside EVERY single name and the final. Not guilty. So, at one time this jury form had not guilty for everyone on the 2 conspiracy charges. It looks as if someone then came back and "marked through" the not guilty verdicts. Why. I want the full story.
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Nora Albrecht Someone was either threatened or paid off on the jury.
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Teresa Brookshire We had heard there was a 10-2 vote on the conspiracies. Just guessing, the jury had it right when they voted all not guilty because they clearly had to find then ALL guilty or not guilty and they understood that. An all or nothing. I would guess that when Judge Navarro polled the jury 2 spoke up and said they really felt (one or more) of the defendants were guilty. So then she marked through them and sent them back to deliberate. They came back and said none of their positions had changed. The instructions WERE NOT clear and this jury was misled. JMO. I don't care if there is a mark through it or not, they were found not guilty.
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Ryan Bundy sues the federal government


Ryan Bundy sues federal government

Posted on April 26, 2017 by Doug Knowles

https://i1.wp.com/itmattershowyousta...40%2C427&ssl=1FILE – This Jan. 27, 2016, file photo provided by the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, shows Ryan Bundy. Bundy and his brother, Ammon Bundy, are being transferred from a Portland, Ore., jail to Nevada Wednesday, Nov. 2, 2016, where they will be tried early next year on charges stemming from a 2014 standoff with federal agents near their father’s ranch.(Multnomah County Sheriff via AP, File)

By Jenny Wilson Las Vegas Review-Journal April 25, 2017 – 5:12 pm

Ryan Bundy, a son of embattled rancher Cliven Bundy who is incarcerated pending trial on conspiracy charges, has sued the federal government.

In a lawsuit filed Monday in the U.S. District Court for Nevada in Las Vegas, Bundy challenges the constitutionality of prison policies and alleges deprivation of rights after he was punished for refusing to obey those policies.

Bundy was transferred to prison in Nevada last fall after he was acquitted of conspiring to stage an armed takeover of a national wildlife refuge in Oregon. He is scheduled to stand trial later this year on separate federal conspiracy charges that result from an armed standoff near his father’s ranch in Bunkerville in April 2014.

“Plaintiff Bundy has been forced and threatened to undergo oppressive, intrusive, and unlawful body cavity searches multiple times per day where his clothing is removed, where his genitals are or would be exposed to Defendant Doe’s during these multifarious and nonconsensual intrusions against his fourth, fifth, eight and fourteenth amendment rights,” Bundy, who is representing himself, wrote in the lawsuit.

“Plaintiff Bundy has been forced and threatened to bend over and expose his anus by spreading his butt cheeks wide open while Defendant Doe’s peer up into Mr. Bundy’s rear body cavity hundreds of times,” he wrote.

The constitutionality of prison strip searches has been litigated extensively. In such cases, the courts generally are concerned with how to balance the prison’s interest in maintaining security with a detainee’s Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures.

In 2012, a divided U.S. Supreme Court upheld prison strip searches of detainees arrested for minor offenses like traffic violations. Bundy is charged with multiple felonies.

The issue generally causes split decisions, but since 1979, courts consistently have upheld blanket strip search policies for pretrial detainees.

“On or around March 20, 2017, Plaintiff Bundy refused to undergo any further strip/body cavity searches imposed upon his person,” Bundy wrote in his filing. He said prison employees “continue to ‘punish’” his decision to refuse to be strip searched by “keeping him locked down in disciplinary segregation for twenty-four hours per day, with no opportunity for meaningful daily exercise.”

Bundy acknowledges in his filing that prison officials offered to transport him to a hearing on the constitutionality of strip searches.

But, in a convoluted sentence, he seems to claim that is unconstitutional, because he would have to be strip searched to attend the administrative grievance hearing.

He says that while in disciplinary segregation, he has been deprived a working toilet, toilet paper, a pencil and paper and thus has “no way to prepare for his own defense against the Government.”

“As of April 18, 2017, Plaintiff Bundy has been in “the hole” for approximately (40) days,” he said in his filing.
Bundy lists United States Inc. as one of the defendants in his lawsuit, choosing to refer to the federal government as a corporation. He is seeking roughly $35 million in damages from a multitude of defendants, who include the Corrections Corporation of America, Nevada Southern Detention Center Warden Charlotte Collins and a number of federal employees whose names were not listed in the filing.

Contact Jenny Wilson at jenwilson@reviewjournal.com or 702-384-8710. Follow @jennydwilson on Twitter.


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[Glass]

So there was no "mistrial". The Jury gave their verdict of Not Guilty.

Now the US wants to re try those found NG on same charges but not re-try those who have been found guilty (on the other charges) on those charges as well.

If the process were about justice and not just "Convictions of Any Kind at Any Cost so long as Every One is at least convicted of Something ", they would retry every defendant on the same charges for which there was, what they are claiming, a mis trial. The important point was There was No Mis Trial. Defendants all found NG.

If it really is NG on those charges then this is Double Jeopardy.

What is the precedent for higher authorities to intervene in an ongoing matter? Who can petition? There are clear ongoing breaches of the law by the law that should be stopped in their tracks. If convictions result, these men will be dead before any kind of judicial review can occur.

[monty]

So there was no "mistrial". The Jury gave their verdict of Not Guilty.

Now the US wants to re try those found NG on same charges but not re-try those who have been found guilty (on the other charges) on those charges as well.

If the process were about justice and not just "Convictions of Any Kind at Any Cost so long as Every One is at least convicted of Something ", they would retry every defendant on the same charges for which there was, what they are claiming, a mis trial. The important point was There was No Mis Trial. Defendants all found NG.

If it really is NG on those charges then this is Double Jeopardy.

I suppose this could be called jury tampering by the government court. If the conspiracy charge was not guilty none of the other charges can be guilty.