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    Re: Pizzagate

    I am liking the weekly general news updates from Jordan at Destroy the Illusion yt channel.

    I hope he is the real deal, but all bets are off these days.

    Jon Pedoesta -- "House intel panel plans to interview Podesta next week," It might be interesting to watch a Satanic filth baby murdering cannibal mouthing lie after lie to questioning, being fed answers through his skull bones directly from his personal demon guardian angels.

    Show host says he will follow up on all these reports and he generally does.

    All these hearings and testimonies in Congress are looking like very low-grade entertainment to me these days. All these congress creatures talk big and tough but nothing ever happens.




    6.23 - State Dept Still Investigating Clinton, Podesta to Testify, MSM Exposes CIA Drug Trafficking
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    June 23rd WTF is going on update -

    Today's sources:
    FoxNews: "State Department probes Clinton handling of government emails, could pull her security clearance" - https://goo.gl/YP2y38
    CNN: "First on CNN: House intel panel plans to interview Podesta next week, sources say" - https://goo.gl/FvSM6p
    NPR: "In The Event Of Attack, Here's How The Government Plans 'To Save Itself' - https://goo.gl/Zh2ASv
    Anonymous: "Shot Congressman Was Trying to Expose Pedophilia, Discussed in Podesta Emails" - https://goo.gl/s2rtPV
    The Intercept: "The History Channel Is Finally Telling the Stunning Secret Story of the War on Drugs" - https://goo.gl/pD6Hst

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    Re: Pizzagate

    ^ yeah I've had Destroy the Illusion bookmarked, though I only watch a fraction of what he posts, all based on title/topics.

    I'd heard the Pedo-sta hearing next week was going closed chamber/session (whatever they call it); meaning it would be opaque to public view/scrutiny. Shocker!

    IOW, it'll be a bunch of SRA pedos, grilling their fellow "Buck" on how the hell his emails got hacked, & all working together to ensure their emails are properly locked down, so that this sort of satanic corruption eruption doesn't happen again!!


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    Listening to the last hour of Lift Veil/Nathan Stolpman's version of that Renegade show; he comes on separately at around 1h 55m. He's giving a paranoid rant about how he's not crazy yada yada. Plus, a sympathy play about how he's victim of attacks, and one of his critics called his father (who he lives with) & complained about his YT/twitter provocateur activities; plus he's getting lawsuit threats. Says he's planning to leave his father's house so not to legally jeopardize him-- but, he can't move anywhere with a landlord coz landlord would be similarly threatened... so oh woe is him!

    So I say, in light of his shit-stirring-for-clicks, & slandering so many YT/twitter people as "agents"; he's just receiving ^ his karma.

    At this writing, YT reports his channel has 28,261 subscribers... let's see that # drop!!
    his channel's up too 28,295 subs now; gaining a net 34 sub's since I wrote that ^, or ~0.12%.... so that's what all his self-publicity stuntsmanship has gotten him at this point.


    HoneyBee just finished this interview, which I see she does weekly (Fri 2p ET)... big of her, coz the host Spike Timmons (channel) has all of 163 sub's, and last week's show with HoneyB has yielded all of.... 69 views!

    advance this one to 8:10 to skip his overly long rock music opening


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    Re: Pizzagate

    exactly if we dont stand for the kids we dont stand for much!

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    BBC pedophile exposé ignores real victims, triggers social-media firestorm
    Published time: 20 Jun, 2017

    Although it is difficult to dispute the story's central message that individuals who have a sexual attraction to children 'need help,' attempting to label pedophilia as a 'sexual orientation' crossed the red line for many readers.

    In a recent BBC article entitled, 'Paedophiles need help, not condemnation - I should know,' we are 'introduced' to an anonymous 60-something male who opens this teary-eyed treatise by proclaiming, "It’s a long time since I’ve described myself as a paedophile. Paedophilia is a disorder, a deeply distressing sexual orientation. For me, it's triggered by traumatic experiences in childhood."

    Did you catch it? If you blinked you missed it. Like one of those clunky bills rammed through Congress on Christmas Eve that is 'sweetened' with all sorts of hidden 'riders,' the opening line of the article declares that pedophilia now ranks - alongside hetereosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality - as a "sexual orientation." A "distressing" one for the pedophile, no doubt, but a sexual orientation nevertheless. But that is simply wrong.

    .......................... In fact, the expression "orientation" is used not once in the article, but on four separate occasions, making me suspect the entire purpose of this piece is to break ground for an entirely new social-engineering revolution in sexual mores, which will be, naturally, actively promoted by every (Western) media outlet on Planet Perversity.

    It won't happen tomorrow, of course, and probably not even the day after, but if this BBC piece is any indication, then there are definite plans in the works to 'normalize' pedophilia in some not-so-distant dystopic future. In fact, pedophilia movements on both sides of the Atlantic have been attempting to go mainstream for many years now (For those who argue that such a social transformation could never succeed, ask yourself how many people just 10 years ago could have guessed there would be ‘After School Satan’ clubs popping up around God’s Country today?).

    However, even more telling than the author describing pedophilia in terms of “sexual orientation” was the reference to the Liberal left's favorite term - "identification" - which really said it all for me................

    Although one of Donald Trump’s first sweeps of his executive pen was to eradicate this absolute insanity, the ball was already put in motion and now there may be no stopping it.

    Today, we see the terms "orientation" and "identification" being casually kicked around in an article on pedophilia, as a way to tenderize the mind of the masses, as it were, for what seems to be coming down the road.

    Be forewarned, the ‘social justice warriors’ will not rest until every single cultural and social norm has been turned on its head. Every sacred institution will be challenged on the basis of an individual or group's perceived right to "identify and orientate" himself, herself or themselves to the lifestyle of their choice - deranged, degenerate or otherwise - even if it means breaking society's darkest taboos.

    Those courageous enough to serve as the voice of reason in this age of ignorance will be chastised as intolerant ‘haters’ that don’t respect the lifestyle choices of the ‘victims,’ who will no longer be the minors and children, but those who would abuse them.

    Judging by the torrent of condemnation hurled at this lamentable BBC piece, at least we know many people still have their wits and scruples about them. There is hope.

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    kate perry sends a subliminal pedogate message, staged very likely


    #Pizzagate 2014 Katy Perry Gives 10 Year Old Girl Pizza Pie At Concert While Wearing Pedophile Dress
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    Re: Pizzagate

    I am listening now to this so really do not understand the whole story.

    It was all preplanned.

    Webb and Acton are real brothers.
    and I think Jason Goodman and H.A. Goodman are brothers.






    Case Study Closed on George Webb Sweigert. MOSSAD-Periscope-Crowdsource PSYOP (Free Crowdsourcing)
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    The Final Chapter of the Case Study on George Webb Sweigert; Case Closed. Who are the players in this PSYOP ? Periscope Bernstein and Wasserman, Lee Stranahan, Jason Goodman, Trish, Dave "Acton" Sweigert, George Webb Sweigert, Defango, (Assange ?). MO-MOSSAD-SOP Free Crowdsourcing and Youtube Crowdsource agenda to figure out the puzzle. Who Killed Seth Rich ? Or where is he ?

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    Re: Pizzagate

    ^ I basically hope the Webb/Acton/Goodman/Defango/Stolpman noise goes away asap. I'll make a point of making it go away from my little world, at least. I was never a huge WebbCo, nor Stolpman (lift the veil) follower anyway, so it'll be little to no adjustment for me. As HoneyBee replied to a comment today,


    My handler? What kool-aid has this guy been feeding you people? All research and videos should be united to expose elite corruption, murderous coverups, and child sex trafficking... anything else is a dramatic distraction to divide and conquer.


    sounds about right.
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    Drawl put this one up today... listen to the holier than thou attitude on this NM governor woman; and how she keeps reciting Peets-Ah! It's hard to see the boy-love pedo symbols on the socks in the video; poor contrast against their background color, but go full screen & pause it, max display brightness... in fact, the thumbnail below might be the easiest way to see them:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mHC9AeBUKO0/h...jCozJNyOJrBRWg 9:38
    Rep. Senator Caught In "Pizza" Party, Cops Dispatched. (AUDIO) #PIZZAGATE #PEDOGATE


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    Re: Pizzagate

    Referring to the Perry video..... I wonder if Sals knows about the pizza connection? I notice that like Comet, Sals sells pizza sauce.

    I find the selling of your special recipe sauce, the thing that makes people go to your restaurant and buy your product is a bit weird. It would be like KFC selling their 11 secret herbs and spices mix. I hadn't heard of a pizza restaurant selling their sauce before pizzagate.
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    Re: Pizzagate

    Here is a recent experience I had in observing something very wrong with the thesis and general thinking of Paul Craig Roberts in regard to this article...

    The US Criminal “Justice System” is Devoid of Justice
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    The US Criminal “Justice System” is Devoid of Justice

    Paul Craig Roberts

    In 1992 Fran and Dan Keller were convicted despite the absence of any evidence of raping a 3-year old, a crime that never occurred. Among the absurd charges was the transport of children to Mexico to be raped by military officials. The Kellers spent 21 years in prison before finally being exonerated by a conviction integrity unit that found no credible evidence for the conviction.

    This kind of ridiculous conviction plagued child care providers during the 1980s and into the 1990s. The Amirault family who operated the Fells Acres Day Care Center in Massachusetts were ruined. The Massachusettes supreme court judge who kept the Amiraults in prison despite the completely obvious fabricated case is today a Harvard University law professor. In Wenatchee, Washington, scores of people were ruined by insane allegations of a church practicing Satanic Sex Rituals on children. There was the Little Rascals Day Care case in North Carolina, the McMartin child care case in California, and many others. Few remember that President Bill Clinton’s attorney general, Janet Reno, rose to name recognition based on false convictions from child abuse witch hunts.

    The insanity spread wider. Young women with emotional problems were told by “therapists” that they had been raped by their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, and brothers. Families everywhere were blown apart by wild charges.

    “Child advocates” insisted that all male heterosexuals were suspect as child rapists. There was no such thing as a real trial, just a condemnation. Allegations alone destroyed people.

    It spread into “wife rape.” States passed “wife rape” laws, and any wife could get rid of a husband by accusing him of rape. I investigated and wrote about the case of Wm. Strong. He was about to divorce his wife for her infidelity, but she struck first with a rape charge. Strong was the victim of wife rape law. His parole appeal is routinely turned down because of “the serious nature of your offense.” I myself have written to the Virginia Parole Board on several occasions pointing out that I covered the story and Strong was framed on false charges by his wife who outsmarted him. But the Virginia Parole Board has no interest in any evidence. The Parole Board exists for the purpose of protecting the system, not for admitting mistakes.

    I wrote about many of the child care cases. Only in the Wenatchee case did facts that I helped to marshall result in the cases being overturned. During the entire process I was attacked by the local newspaper and radio station. Neither were interested in any facts. They knew the church was guilty. Period.

    Evidence simply was not important. Juries were ramrodded by hysteria conjured up by “child advocates,” newspapers and TV reports.

    Consider the case of Alabama Governor Don Siegelman. He was framed by Republican US attorneys and Republican federal judges. A normal everyday political contribution was turned into an influence-selling case. In Siegelman’s case, even the intervention of 113 former state attorneys general led by New York attorney general Robert Abrams, who called Siegelman’s frameup an “enormous scandal,” could not prevent Gov. Siegelman from being sent to prison by corrupt Republicans.

    The Republican federal judge who presided over the attrocity was subsequently arrested for beating his wife bloody in an Atlanta hotel and got off. Of course.

    In America only the innocent go to prison.

    Americans do not understand this. They have been deceived by “law and order conservatives” that liberal judges always let the criminals off and that any criminals that somehow are sent to prison despite the libeal judges are rescued from jail by liberal parole boards.

    The fact of the matter is that only 3% of felony cases go to trial, and in these cases prosecutors are able to bribe and to pay witnesses for false testimony against the accused and to withhold exculpatory evidence that would clear the defendant of the charges. In other words, conviction regardless of the evidence is almost always obtained.

    In the other 97% of the cases, the defendant’s attorney negotiates with the prosecutor a ficticious charge to which the accused will plead guilty in exchange for dropping the more serious charge for which the accused was arrested. The attorney knows that to defend against even a false charge is unlikely to be successful and that the accused will draw a longer sentence from going to trial than from agreeing to a lesser charge in a plea bargain. Both prosecutor and judge are grateful, because it saves both from days, even weeks, of court time, thus keeping the judge’s case load lighter and permitting the prosecutor many more convictions with which to embellish his record. A week of plea bargains can produce many times the convictions of a week in court dealing with one case. The fewer cases the judge has to study and to apply his understanding of the law, the better for the judge.

    As only 3% of cases go to trial, the police evidence is seldom tested. The police know this. One result is that it is much easier for the police to pickup someone who had committed a similar crime in the past and charge him, than to go to the trouble of solving the crime by investigating it. Indeed, the police are so out of touch with neighborhoods, compared to bygone days when police walked their beats and knew the population, and crimes appear so random, that many crimes simply can’t be investigated. Much easier to pick up someone with a record and charge them. This practice explains the high recidivism rates. Once convicted, they will convict you again. It is how crimes are “solved.”

    Don Siegelman was probably the best governor Alabama ever had. He had to be good in order to be elected as a Democrat in a Republican state. The fact that President Obama, who had the support of 113 state attorneys general in behalf of Siegelman, did not lift a finger to have the Justice Department look into Siegelman’s frameup or use his pen to sign a pardon demonstrates that an ordinary citizen has no chance whatsoever. When a prominent governor can be framed, the fate of a single mom or a black man is sealed when they are arrested.

    In the “American criminal justice system” justice is totally absent. There is no such thing as justice in America.

    The criminalization of US citizens by the Injustice System is now one of America’s largest industries. Prisons have been privatized, and their inmates comprise cheap labor for Apple Computer and defense industries among many others. The United States of America not only has the highest percentage of its population in prison, it has the highest absolute number, substantially higher than “authoritarian China,” a country whose population is FOUR TIMES LARGER than the US but a country with fewer people in prison.

    That should tell Americans something. But they are too brainwashed to see it. The morons rush to the defense of the police, and they praise prosecutors for their wrongful convictions. In America, to be accused is to be guilty. Not even President Trump is safe from being falsely convicted by false charges and driven from office.

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    I wrote a comment to him about this article as follows.

    I appreciate very much your fine article, The US Criminal “Justice System” is Devoid of Justice. I agree wholeheartedly with the large part of what you wrote. I hope that President Trump will try to get a pardon for Mr. Seigelman. I do not have even a small clue as to why the State Department set him up, but I would not doubt that it is related to the bribery /blackmail /extortion grid which is our U.S. political scene.

    However, I take issue with these words. \"This kind of ridiculous conviction plagued child care providers during the 1980s and into the 1990s. The Amirault family who operated the Fells Acres Day Care Center in Massachusetts were ruined. The Massachusettes supreme court judge who kept the Amiraults in prison despite the completely obvious fabricated case is today a Harvard University law professor. In Wenatchee, Washington, scores of people were ruined by insane allegations of a church practicing Satanic Sex Rituals on children. There was the Little Rascals Day Care case in North Carolina, the McMartin child care case in California, and many others. Few remember that President Bill Clinton’s attorney general, Janet Reno, rose to name recognition based on false convictions from child abuse witch hunts. \" \"ridiculous conviction\" \"completely obvious fabricated case\" \"insane allegations of a church practicing Satanic Sex Rituals on children.\" \"false convictions from child abuse witch hunts\"

    Those are not objective scholarly observations to support your position. I think your position would be better supported by the many objective strong arguments that I believe exist. You do not seem to understand that child abuse, pedophilia on babies and very young children, and Satanic Sex Rituals, \"spirit cooking\" and Pedoesta brothers\' lifestyle with the rich and famous of D.C. and NYC top politicos has been going on in our nation for over half a century, and really much longer.

    I remember listening to Dr. Stan Monteith on his radio show doing multiple interviews of people from Wenatchee who had familiarity with the case you mentioned. There was a blackmail and extortion scheme connected to sex abuse and murder of very young children and the highest elected and appointed officials of Wenatchee government were involved, not simply one church. Those interviews strike me as even more credible today than they did to me back then over 15 years ago.

    The murder of children in Satanic rituals is very old and very real. It is not insane, fabricated, ridiculous or false. You do not seem to recognize that, and that is what disappoints me about your article. There can be no return of the rule of law and a just Justice System until God almighty drains the pedophile /Satanic, snuff film producing, murderous swamp that engulfs all aspects of the top levels of our government as well as our local governmental structures.

    Christus vicet. Christus regnat. Christus imperat.

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    He replied to me with a curt email which stated.

    "my case is supported by the overturning eventually of all of the cases"

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    I wrote back to him thus... our last communication

    ""my case is supported by the overturning eventually of all of the cases"

    I think this is close to the "begging the question" fallacy.

    providing what is essentially the conclusion of the argument as a premise

    You are better than that. "

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    This is an example of how at the very least, there are many bright "conservative" heads in the sand regarding the pervasiveness of the SRA and pedophilia is in our nation. To his credit, Dr. Stan Monteith, in many many of his daily radio program over 25 years broached these specific cases mentioned in this article, and these dark topics generally, honestly and objectively as no one else would.

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    Re: Pizzagate

    Here is truly fine analysis of this congressional, "closed-door" * interview of Pedoesta.

    * I could not find the legal term for a "closed-door" hearing but the term "closed-door" seems to be universally used these days in describing congressional hearings. It means "a trial or other hearing that is not open to the public." I do not know if Pedoesta will be under oath during that closed-door hearing. Probably not. Reminds me of Dubya and Cheney closed-door hearing regarding 9-11.

    Only aspect I may have a slightly different take on would be that this interview is a "classic honey trap."
    We shall see if this works toward truth and justice or if this further protects the "Deep state."




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    Re: Pizzagate

    Quote Originally Posted by Glass View Post
    Referring to the Perry video..... I wonder if Sals knows about the pizza connection? I notice that like Comet, Sals sells pizza sauce.

    I find the selling of your special recipe sauce, the thing that makes people go to your restaurant and buy your product is a bit weird. It would be like KFC selling their 11 secret herbs and spices mix. I hadn't heard of a pizza restaurant selling their sauce before pizzagate.
    I can't figure out who/what Sals is? I posted that Perry/concert/pizza vid here a couple months back, didn't watch again.

    As to selling their special Comet tomato/pizza sauce, I cringe to think what a lab analysis would find lurking in there... I mean, besides human blood cells.... that's already given! some other variety of Soylent Green, perhaps?

    And off hand, I can't think of any restaurants who sell their key product like that either.... there's a few "celebrity chefs" who have their signature products on store shelves.... but a 1-outlet (non-chain/franchise) "Mom & Pop" family/neighborhood pizza joint? Consider the specialized resources which must go into that, the vacuum sealed jars, etc!

    Don't even get me started on Comet's "infant onesie", in your choice of colors: BLACK, BLACK, or BLACK...

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    Liz Crokin 6/21 interview; nice that her interviews aren't 90/whatever % redundant, coz she's full of different stories from her years of hob-nobbing with satanic circles.

    she's on here between about 20m - 1h 21m:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_IwnhzlOIKU/h...Ox5cydSjqwC5BA 1:58:57
    Liz Crokin • The Scott Helmer Show - 06.21.17


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    Drawl:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lJIk1UJpNik/h...FDB_R5EpY385ug 4:34
    Political Pizza Party On The Ballot? #PIZZAGATE


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    Jake M, presently still partyin' hardy with the (((hollywood set))),

    I've watched the 2nd one, but not the first re SF-- tis next in my queue; really "hits home", that one!


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    Re: Pizzagate

    I didn't watch this video, but picked up this search link from the comments

    ]https://yt3.ggpht.com/-Pw2GGc4ADhU/A...ffff/photo.jpgRobert Steele
    Pence pedophilia YouTubes (a fraction of what is available for other search terms) are here:
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mike+Pence+pedophile+tory


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