Quote Originally Posted by jimswift View Post
"Representatives" & "delegates" weren't around at the beginning?....what was the beginning? So it was direct democracy by 'we the people' under the Articles? Doubt it.

{I would say the beginning was The Declaration of Independence. Not arguing about representatives, are you?}

"we the people" wasn't every human on the land mass either. It was a specific group\sect.

Didn't the "organic 13th" magically disappear in the 'War of 1812' time-frame?

{According to the records of the time it was finally ratified by Virginia in 1819}

Thought the fictional "person" shit came as part of the 14th amendment, after the 'war for southern independence', which the 13th amendment slaves were included....

{Next, in 1862, Congress redefined the meaning of the word PERSON to include the definition CORPORATION, AMONG OTHER THINGS. Exhibit (B)http://www.dirtyunclesam.com/Person-act.pdf}

...which I contend: 'the de facto 13th amendment freed the black slaves, and the 14th enslaved EVERYONE'

When the 7 members of 13 walked out 'sine die', that ended whatever was setup prior. There was no 'general'/'federal' government for a period of time until after they setup the new one.(reconstruction) This wasn't the same Constitution that Madison was 'the father' of. It was a bastardized altered version.

{They maintained the ruse that it was still the original 1789 version. There was no declaration that they had adopted it as their corporate by law and changed it's name from the Constitution "for" to the Constitution "of".}

Bringing about equity, admiralty, Roman civil law, whatever the law form was changed to...abandoning British common law.

Which brings me to...the way I read what she is portraying, is that there wasn't a Constitution until after The Great Schism?


Where is your evidence that Anna says No Constitution until after civil war?

All the original laws are still in place and published as part of the US Code.