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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Mike Stickler who spent 60 days in the Pahrump jail with Cliven Bundy where he gained Cliven’s trust and was authorized to write Cliven’s biograpy has been published. I received my copy two days ago. After reading the first 5 chapters I must say it is impressive and should be required reading for all Nevada schools for the amount of history, constitutional principles, Treaty of Hidalgo as related to Bundy’s claim to his family’s rights and where the jurisdiction lies and Cliven Bundy’s understanding of these principles.

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    Mike Stickler who spent 60 days in the Pahrump jail with Cliven Bundy where he gained Cliven’s trust and was authorized to write Cliven’s biograpy has been published. I received my copy two days ago. After reading the first 5 chapters I must say it is impressive and should be required reading for all Nevada schools for the amount of history, constitutional principles, Treaty of Gidalgo as related to Bundy’s claim to his family’s rights and where the jurisdiction lies and Cliven Bundy’s understanding of these principles.

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    The first five chapters lay out the Bundy family history in Nevada dating to 1847, thus having rights under the Treaty of Hidalgo, a lot of constitutional history and early Nevada territorial and statehood history as well as detailing some of Cliven Bundy’s early life. This sets the foundation for the remainder of the book which deals with the actual standoff

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Quote Originally Posted by Tumbleweed View Post
    He won a battle but I don't think it will end. People who don't understand nature want him off the land.




    He explains in this video how having grazing animals are a benefit to the landscape.




    He explains here how cattle turn the vegetation into hamburger in this video


    I just went to the beginning of this thread to see what day I started following the Bundy Protest and saw this post Tumblweed had made.


    Dated April 8, 2014. No one could have imagined how right you were and what was about transpire between then and today.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Monty, I've been to the beginning of this thread the last few days looking for who it was that did an investigation of the corporations, their satanic symbols and connections and the masons. On page 26 there is info about the masonic cave at Burns, Or. It was a pretty interesting thread and it still is when you go back and look. Funny we've both been going through it again in the last few days.

    Thought I'd better edit this since I was thinking this was the thread on the Malhuer occupation.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumbleweed View Post
    Monty, I've been to the beginning of this thread the last few days looking for who it was that did an investigation of the corporations, their satanic symbols and connections and the masons. On page 26 there is info about the masonic cave at Burns, Or. It was a pretty interesting thread and it still is when you go back and look. Funny we've both been going through it again in the last few days.

    Thought I'd better edit this since I was thinking this was the thread on the Malhuer occupation.
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    The guy who uploaded them had a yourube channel Professor Doom1. The channel was terminated.

    I found where I posted one of these videos in a Cabala thread you started, but it was removed when his main channel was terminated

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    I found this on Professor Dooms backup channel Professor Doom II. I didn’t find any of those Hoover Dan videos in the backup channel.

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    The court has ordered Todd Engel to pay over $1,000,000 in restitution. Todd Engel spent about 1 1/2 hours at the Topaq Wash. He is the man who spotted the snipers signaling with mirror flashes to the armed BLM agents on the ground. He alerted a deputy sheriff who immediately took action and got the situation de-esculated. Todd left the bridge and spent the rest of his time there assisting an NHP officer directing traffic because he new the snipers were targeting him. The man deserves a medal because it was him alerting the Clark County deputy that prevented bloodshed that day.

    Todd was denied a decent defence. He was not allowed to present any evidence to the jury that would have exonerated him. After all the Brady violations were exposed the judge should have vacated his sentence because he certainly was denied due process.

    It was brought out in testimony in the Bundy Trial that the snipers did have Todd Engel Eric Parker and the guy from Oklahoma I don’t recall his name, in thier sights, safeties off, slack out of the triggers waiting for permission to fire. Fortunately that permission was never granted.

    Mike Stickler on Twitter said the Whitehouse ordered a copy of his book, “Cliven Bundy, American (terrorist) Patriot”. (The strike through seems to be missing in the editor) Hopefully this indicates they may be looking into a pardon for these other men whom were wrongly convicted and those forced to take a plea bargain.

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    Outrageous Restitution Ordered for Todd Engel



    TOTAL AMOUNT OF RESTITUTION ORDERED: $1,636,790.33

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    Outrageous Restitution Ordered for Todd Engel


    The following transaction was entered on 9/20/2018 at 10:37 AM PDT and filed on 9/20/2018:

    Case Name:
    USA v. Bundy et al
    Case Number:
    2:16-cr-00046-GMN-PAL
    Filer:

    Document Number:
    3342(No document attached)

    Docket Text:

    MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS – Restitution Hearing as to Todd C. Engel held on 9/20/2018 before Chief Judge Gloria M. Navarro.

    Courtroom Administrator: Aaron Blazevich; AUSA: Daniel Schiess with FBI Agent Mike Abercrombie; Def Counsel: Warren Markowitz; Court Reporter/Recorder: Araceli Bareng; Time of Hearing: 9:20 a.m. – 10:01 a.m.; Courtroom: 7D;

    Defendant is present in custody with leg restraints.

    The Court makes preliminary statements. Mr. Markowitz makes arguments regarding his position on restitution. Mr. Schiess responds.

    The Court finds that restitution is mandatory in this case. The Court determines that the Defendant’s ability to pay restitution will not be taken into consideration in this case.

    Mr. Markowitz makes arguments regarding the inability of government employee wages and costs to be imposed as restitution. The Court finds that the expenses were necessary to complete or attempt to complete the operation which is at issue in the indictment.
    The Court imposes the following amounts of restitution:

    BLM Costs:
    BLM Labor Costs: $518,955.97.
    BLM Contract Costs: $1,025,542.53.
    TOTAL BLM Costs: $1,544,498.50.

    FBI Costs:
    FBI Las Vegas Employee Costs: $62,255.31.
    FBI Los Angeles Employee Costs: $18,405.07.
    FBI Los Angeles Travel Costs: $11,631.45.
    TOTAL FBI Costs: $92,291.83.
    TOTAL Amount of Restitution Ordered: $1,636,790.33


    The Court orders and imposes restitution and associated conditions. Amended Judgment to follow.

    Mr. Markowitz makes an oral motion to stay restitution pending appeal. The Court DENIES the motion.

    Mr. Markowitz requests the Defendant be allowed to change his facility designation on the Amended Judgment to FCI Sheridan as Mr. Engel’s family is moving closer to this location and Mr. Engel has allergies at the current facility. The Court will amend its recommendation to the US Bureau of Prisons on the Amended Judgment.

    The Court adjourns. Defendant is remanded to custody.

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

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    The guy who uploaded them had a yourube channel Professor Doom1. The channel was terminated.
    Thanks monty, that's the videos I was looking for but I couldn't remember the name he posted under. To much good information on them for the jews to let people look at them.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Todd Engel is being subjectd to more abuse in the criminal U.S. JustUs system according to a report in Redoubt News

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    Todd Engel Undergoes Diesel Therapy



    ENGEL CONTINUES TO WORK ON HIS APPEAL, AND IS HOPING TO GAIN THE ATTENTION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.

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    Todd Engel Undergoes Diesel Therapy

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    Todd Engel was recently sentenced to 14 years in prison for his part in the Bunkerville standoff of 2014. He is currently assigned to spend that time in Lompoc prison in California, though he has requested a transfer to Sheridan Prison in Oregon.

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    Engel had a secondary hearing to discuss the restitution the court required of him. This hearing was originally scheduled for the first week in September, in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    Just before this hearing took place, the Bureau of Prisons (BOP) decided he needed a couple of lessons in Diesel Therapy, so they moved him to Lompoc, from Pahrump, Nevada, just before his hearing.

    This caused a delay in the hearing until September 20th, at which time he needed to be transported back to Pahrump, with a stop in Victorville, California, and then back to Lompoc afterwards.

    Diesel Therapy is said to be the worst part of being incarcerated. It refers to a method by law-enforcement personnel to (allegedly) punish political prisoners, or troublemakers, by transporting them in horrendous conditions.

    Prisoners can be transported to multiple destinations, around the country and back, under the guise of “destination errors”. But even a single transport can be dangerous and torturous to the prisoner.

    I have talked to Engel about his treatment during these transports.

    “So, the ride from Pahrump to Lompoc is a torture chamber,” Todd said. “Imagine being chained up, hands and ankles, to where you’re unable to even scratch your nose. They have this torture device known as the black box they place over your handcuffs.”
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    The Black Box is a handcuff cover which protects the key hole and prevents the prisoner from tampering with any parts of the lock. Although the Black Box is to ensure safe transport, if used incorrectly, it can cause serious injury.

    Engel continued, “So then we were put on the bus and placed in a hard plastic seat where there is not enough knee room to sit normally. i have to sit sideways with my knees in the air and my feet off the ground, for 12 hours. My back seizes up from the stress and it took me two weeks for my knee to recover so I wasn’t limping. I have arthritis in that knee.”
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    George Hansen, has been referred to as “America’s most famous political prisoner”, according to the “U.S. Citizens Human Rights Commission.” The story of how Hansen ended up in prison is bad enough, and worth your time reading. However, while he was in prison, he was subjected to horrendous Diesel Therapy as well.

    “The best thing you could do,” Hansen advised others, “is the Biblical act of fasting. If you don’t eat and don’t drink, you don’t have to go to the bathroom. They do this to you for four or five weeks at a time; they put you in chains about two in the morning, you get out about ten at night. And when you’re bigger than average [Rep. Hansen is 6’6”], you’re wedged in, sitting there twenty hours a day and you can’t move your legs. Because the shackles cut off the return blood flow from your lower extremities, soon your legs fill with blood, especially when you’re 63 years-old as I was then. Then you get to walk around with two barrels full of blood where your calves and lower legs should be.

    Engel shared more with me about his transports through the BOP system:
    “Victorville was on the way back here and they kept us in the holdover unit. They had had an incident in the main prison and they had the whole place on lockdown. We could hardly come out of our cells and were fed peanut butter and jelly for almost every meal. Also, no commissary to help with the hunger.”

    Todd is an amazing person. He is serving his time, yet the courts have ruled that the prosecutors hid evidence that could have swayed the jury in his favor. The main defendants of the Bunkerville Standoff were released and their charges were dropped. Engel was not allowed the same benefits, and was even sentenced for crimes of which he was not convicted.

    Engel continues to work on his appeal, and is hoping to gain the attention of President Trump.
    If you would like to learn more, please visit: Support Todd Engel – political prisoner

    Sources and further reading:
    https://forgottenmajority.net/index....ous-black-box/

    https://prisonvitality.wordpress.com...the-black-box/

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qb3g3p/diesel-v11n2

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/dieseltherapy.shtml

    https://www.constitution.org/ghansen/hansen9-97.html

    http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/il...years-ago.html


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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    The week before Thanksgiving Bundy Ranch lost their winter hay supply from a haystack fire.


    Multiple departments battle 300-ton haystack fire at Bundy Ranch in Bunkerville

    Written by Cody Blowers
    November 14, 2018


    https://www.cedarcityutah.com/wp-con...-2-970x546.jpgFirefighters battle a blaze that started in a haystack containing 300 tons of hay at the Bundy Ranch, Bunkerville, Nev., Nov. 13, 2018 | Photo courtesy of Beaver Dam Littlefield Fire District, St. George News


    ST. GEORGE Multiple agencies and water tankers responded to a massive haystack fire reported Wednesday in Bunkerville, Nevada, when hundreds of tons of burning hay kept firefighters busy for more than five hours.

    Early Wednesday evening firefighters were dispatched to what was initially called in as haystack and structure fire at the Bundy Ranch on Riverside Road and Gold Butte, Bunkerville Fire Chief Mike Wilson said.

    Fire crews found the large haystack engulfed in flames, while the residence located nearby had no signs of smoke or flames.

    “Our main goal at that point was to keep the fire from spreading to the home that was in close proximity to the fire, as well as several other structures on the property,” Wilson said.

    He said that 300 tons of hay was burning in a haystack that covered an area of nearly 900 square yards, with 300 one-ton bales stacked more than 20 feet high.
    Bunkerville firefighters were soon joined by crews from Mesquite Fire and Rescue, Beaver Dam/Littlefield Fire District and Moapa Valley Fire District, which sent crews and trucks from both Logandale and Overton, Nevada.

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    Large backhoes and other equipment is brought in to battle haystack fire at the Bundy Ranch, Bunkerville, Nev., Nov. 13, 2018 | Photo courtesy of Beaver Dam Littlefield Fire District, St. George News

    The fire stations responded with multiple fire engines as well as wildland water tenders or tanker trucks capable of carrying up to 3,000 gallons of water, which was “critical,” Wilson said, adding there were no fire hydrants or external water sources available on the property, at least not initially.

    “Once we got there we were able to draft out an irrigation ditch which provided water, once Moapa Valley Fire arrived with the equipment and crews,” he said.
    Because haystack fires burn from the inside out, firefighters had to get to fire burning in the center of the pile. They disassembled the haystack and broke apart the individual hay bales.

    While the method is effective, it requires large equipment capable of moving large, heavy loads that are typically burning, which can be dangerous, Wilson said.
    Even then, the water tends to run off of the top layer of the hay before it reaches the center of the stack where the material continues to burn fed by the oxygen readily available.

    “You have to work water into the hay to put the fire out, so we had to spread the hay out over a large area,” he said.

    After more than five hours the fire was extinguished, along with any visible embers that could reignite at a later time.

    The risk, however, isn’t over, as Wilson said there could be hot spots buried under the material that were not detected, primarily due to the enormous amount of material that was burning. The property owners and ranch workers will keep a close eye on the area over the next few days and were advised to call 911 if they see smoke or fire.

    “They could see hot spots for days to come,” Wilson said.

    The investigation into the fire’s origin is ongoing.

    In some instances, the fermentation process can cause spontaneous combustion, which can occur when air and water cause microorganisms to feed and multiply, a process that generates heat until all of the moisture is gone, Wilson said. However, should the process continue for an extended period of time or at a higher rate, the heat generated can reach a level where it ignites without any external source.

    Wilson said the success of the operation hinged upon the mutual aid provided by so many fire departments that responded so quickly, providing crews, large earth-moving equipment and multiple trucks that remained at the scene until the end of the call.

    There were no injuries reported during the incident.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    As I was reading through that article the thought came to mind that it may have been caused by fermentation as they mentioned near the end of the article. It happens occasionally in the area where I live too. People here generally let the hay sit for a month or two before stacking it for that very reason. I've seen steam coming off bales on cool mornings and later on seen smoke coming from them. It's a shame they lost so much hay after all the troubles they've already had. Most people in this area insure their hay because it's hard and expensive to replace it.
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