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    Re: Trumped or Duped

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    I’ve been solidly pro-Trump since day one.

    This is my first post in this thread I believe.

    I don’t fault him too much for his presidency since the traitors basically sabotaged it continuously.

    I think that he should get credit for what he exposed. It is now clear that every single institution is fully corrupt. We wouldn’t have known the full extent of it without him trying and failing.

    But I no longer support Trump, for some very specific reasons:

    1. He wavered on guns. I don’t trust him.

    2. He is silent on the vaccine mania. Whether they work or not is an irrelevant point. People are losing their livelihoods and freedom and no one is doing a damn thing about it. Only Rand Paul is even saying anything and DeSantis is doing something in Florida. Fuck everyone else.

    3. He’s anti crypto. I could say a lot here, but basically the system failed us and all his supporters then turned to crypto. I know I did. He can either get on board or F off, period.

    4. He isn’t vocally calling attention to what’s been happening to the J6 prisoners who were there for him.

    So basically I have no problem with his actual presidency except his behavior towards guns. But since he’s been out of office, he’s destroyed his credibility.
    And add, pardoning of the hebe spys. Agree with woodman on Assange.

    Trumpstein's response this week was "Spy Things" while he doubled down on his clot shot.

    He's a salesman. Used car salesman at that.
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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Good for AJ in calling out Trump for his BS and shilling for big-pharma's poison kill shots:

    Can Trump Stop Pushing COVID Lethal Injections

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    https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=61...3b4036f71c3709




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    Alex Jones examines why Trump is all in and tripling down these COVID-19 experimental gene therapies.

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Good to see Mike Adams calling Trumpstein out for shilling for the poison kill shots:

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-...ral-banks.html
    Trump’s vaccine-pimping rhetoric proves BOTH parties are prostitutes to pharma and the central banks


    (Natural News) Trump’s public speech on the vaccine has become indistinguishable from Fauci’s. In a recent event in Dallas, Texas, Trump sat next to Bill O’Reilly and bragged about taking the booster shot, adding that all Trump supporters should “take credit” for Operation Warp Speed and how Trump managed to shorten the vaccine approval and development time from 5-12 years to less than one year.
    Trump did that, of course, by skipping all the necessary clinical trials, producing a deadly covid jab that has now killed an estimated 800,000 Americans (and counting).
    Trump completely ignores this mass death across America and scorns his own audience, telling them, “Don’t mock the vaccinated.” He seems utterly tone deaf to the reality that it is the unvaccinated who are being condemned, mocked, fired from their jobs, kicked out of restaurants and arrested in places like New York.
    Trump now appears to be completely isolated from real America, showing zero understanding of the kind of totalitarian nightmare unvaccinated Americans are currently living through. Trump is completely out of touch with his own support base and the struggles they are facing due, in large part, to Trump selling them out to Big Pharma and the Federal Reserve.
    Trump further condemns his own supporters, telling them that if they doubt the vaccine, “You’re playing right into their hands.” Whose hands? The hands of the pharma cartel that Trump enriched with Operation Warp Speed?
    But Trump has made a fatal mistake in all this, and it looks like this will end Trump’s remaining popularity among real Americans: His supporters aren’t brain dead zombies like Biden supporters, and Trump voters think for themselves. Which means they see right through this charade and have come to realize that it is Trump who is playing into the hands of Big Pharma.

    Just like Biden, Trump supports endless money printing and claimed a bubble stock market was a “good economy”

    While Republicans chide Biden’s multi-trillion dollar deficit spending “stimulus” gimmicks, how quickly they forget it was Trump who launched the first covid stimulus helicopter money initiatives. The massive money creation didn’t stop there, either: Under Trump, the Federal Reserve ran huge “quantitative easing” programs which are nothing more than money printing schemes to prop up banks and the markets, literally printing money to buy assets and prevent a market collapse.

    Trump deceived the American people and claimed the rising (bubble) stock market was a “great economy.” But it was all fiat currency money printing, backed by nothing. In fact, from a real, technical point of view, stock market fundamentals collapsed during the Trump presidency, but he kept the market on life support with money printing that continues to this day. The market has been reanimated like a zombie. It’s now a zombie market dominated by zombie banks and zombie corporations.

    The one thing all that money printing did accomplish, however, was breeding inflation. Once Biden took over the White House with the rigged 2020 election, the Federal Reserve increased the mad money printing to the tune of trillions of dollars. The resulting economic catastrophe — runaway inflation and dollar devaluation — is the result of both Trump’s and Biden’s absurd economic policies that will prove to be ruinous to America.

    On money printing and vaccines, in fact, Trump and Biden have nearly identical policies. They both want to inject every American with deadly mRNA / spike protein injections, and they both want to inject endless money printing, helicopter money and low interest rates into the economy, furthering accelerating market bubbles that will one day burst, causing extreme catastrophic fallout. (Trump even wanted the Fed to go negative on interest rates!)

    So when Democrats complain today that inflation in 2021 is Trump’s fault, there’s not totally wrong. Trump’s support of money printing and stimulus handouts did, indeed, contribute strongly to inflation under Biden. But Biden worsened the situation with his own debt spending and stimulus handouts. Now, we are looking at runaway inflation for years to come… and quite possibly the collapse of the dollar currency at some point as the money printing machine reaches insane levels of desperation.

    The vaccine die-off will be blamed on Trump

    Trump appears to be clueless about how he’s likely to be criminally indicted and prosecuted for crimes against humanity as the vaccine die-off accelerates. It was Trump who ordered the FDA to look the other way while vaccine manufacturers skipped the clinical trials that are typically used to determine product safety. Trump pressured Pfizer and Moderna to rush the vaccine at any cost under Operation Warp Speed, and the result is that they produced vaccines which are killing and maiming people in record numbers.

    The VAERS reporting system (HHS) now shows over 20,000 deaths attributable to covid vaccines. The Under Reporting Factor (URF) has been well established through several analysis methods to be around 40. This means the real number of Americans killed by these vaccines is 20,000 x 40 = 800,000. (And those numbers are conservative.)

    This means Trump’s rushed vaccine has killed nearly a million Americans. Yet Trump celebrates the vaccine and claims, without any evidence whatsoever, that without the vaccine, “tens of millions” of people would have died. Seriously? From a flu strain that has a near-100% survival rate in most age groups?

    This is the same Trump who said, in February of 2020, that the pandemic was nothing and would magically disappear by April of 2020. But now, when the vaccine is killing nearly a million Americans, he claims that without it, tens of millions would have died.

    And through all this, Trump still can’t bring himself to recommend vitamin D. Or zinc. Or quercetin. The Dr. Zev Zelenko protocols work, you know. Florida’s State Surgeon General has the courage to tell the truth and urge people to take vitamin D and eat well, but Trump can’t even bring himself to say that. Every wonder why?

    Trump now sounds exactly like Fauci, a true criminal against humanity. And we wonder if Trump and Fauci will be prosecuted together as co-conspirators when the international war crimes tribunals finally get under way. It was Trump, after all, who kept Fauci in power and placed him in charge of America’s pandemic response. Trump could have fired Fauci at any time, and he could have ordered the FDA to focus on vaccine safety rather than speed. But all Trump cared about was propping up the bubble stock market, then claiming the bigger the bubble, the better the economy. That was his entire re-election plan in a nutshell. Pump and dump. Pure theater.

    At some point, we expect this vaccine holocaust to be exposed. The script will be flipped. Once that happens, Trump will be blamed for the entire thing, as he was the one who directed the FDA shortcuts and Big Pharma rushed schedule to start injecting people with experimental medicines backed by no evidence of safety or efficacy.
    And Trump himself has fallen right into the trap. By the time the globalist media is done with all this, it will be Trump who is labeled the modern-day Josef Mengele, not Fauci.
    In the mean time, we all suffer under Trump’s inflation (now Biden’s inflation) and accelerating die-offs as we head into the dark winter that Joe Biden promises will be filled with “death” for the unvaccinated.
    It’s starting to feel like Trump and Biden are playing for the same team, isn’t it?
    That’s probably because they are.
    https://www.naturalnews.com/images/T...re-jab-600.jpg
    It’s all theater, folks… Republicans vs. Democracy, red vs. blue, right vs. left… both parties pursue nearly identical policies of mass death, enslavement and the total financial looting of America. The only real difference is that Democrats like to rape children, while Republicans prefer to rape their own supporters.
    Full details in today’s Situation Update podcast, which pulls no punches. I have run out of patience waiting for Trump to come to his senses. America needs to look elsewhere.
    Brighteon.com/87f5d080-a569-495e-9aff-9af9da329d45

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    This guy calls out the Trump groupies who refuse to see Trump as doing anything wrong--they defend him on everything. He calls them out for being members of a cult--I totally agree!! And have seen this type over at conservativetreehouse. They constantly make excuses for him---if Obama did what Trump did (operation warp speed, locking us down, renewing the state of emergency over and over again, shilling for the poison kill shots), they would be screaming bloody murder, but because he's their guy, they make excuses. SICKENING IMO!!!

    Here he compares Candace Owens (covering for Trump when he was shilling for the poison kill shots in her interview of him) and Dr. David Martin--Of course David Martin calls it out. Apparently, at the urging of someone in Trump's family (any guesses? I say Don jr or Eric) Dr. Martin sent his info directly to Trump.

    2 Views on Why Trump is Promoting the Experimental COVID-19 Injections – Which View is Correct?

    https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/2-...ew-is-correct/

    by Brian Shilhavy
    Editor, Health Impact News
    Conservative talk show host Candace Owens continues to deal with controversy from her interview with Donald Trump, and recently published a video of her explaining her views on Trump.
    She has publicly stated that she is against the COVID-19 shots:
    “I just will never ever let that vaccine into my body. I believe firmly that Big Pharma is the greatest evil on the face of the planet. I am healthy, young, in shape and simply unafraid of Covid-19.” (Source.)
    And yet, she insists that her views on the shots do not conflict with Donald Trump publicly stating how he wants everyone to get the shots, and lying to the public by stating the same lies that are coming out of the mouths of Fauci, Biden, and others that the “unvaccinated” are filling the hospitals and dying from COVID right now.
    A few days ago, Dr. David Martin, who has been one of the leading voices in the Alternative Media exposing the fraud behind Sars COVID for the past two years, was interviewed by Conservative host Seth Holehouse of “Man in America” where the 1-hour interview was titled Why Does Trump Keep Promoting the Vaccine?
    I have created a clip from that interview that I believe best sums up what Dr. David Martin said, and between what Candace Owens published, and the questions from pro-Trump Seth Holehouse that Dr. Martin answers, I think we have in under 10 minutes a succinct summary of the two current views about why Donald Trump is out pushing for everyone to get a COVID-19 injection.
    Listen to this short video, and then answer this question for yourself: Which view is more credible?
    This is from our Bitchute channel, and it is also on our Telegram channel.


    The full interview with Dr. David Martin can be heard here, and the things that Dr. Martin discuss are worth your time to learn.
    The pro-Trump view on why he is promoting the bioweapon shots that are killing and injuring so many people basically boils down to three points I constantly here from the pro-Trump cult believers:

    • Trump is ignorant about vaccines and does not understand how dangerous they really are.
    • Trump has a master plan in place that forces him to promote the vaccines for a greater purpose of bringing down the swamp/cabal at a later date.
    • It sucks that Trump pushes the kill shots, but he was obviously the better choice over Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden.

    I get emails daily from the Trump cult believers expanding on these points, and attacking me or belittling me as “stupid.”
    This is a typical email I received yesterday, for example:
    Subject: Please Stick to Vaccine Information and don’t wander into areas where you have no expertise!
    I speak for a large group of individuals in “flyover America.” Your recent article where you denigrate Trump for his statements in the bill O’Rielly interview shows you know little of current warfare and have fallen into prophaganda put out by the Deep State.
    It is clear you have no concept of or background in Military affairs so please stick to vaccine information such as side effects etc. or you will be losing many people who are currently on your subscription list.
    This person, who goes by the name “Bitterroot Services and Enterprises,” then proceeded to “school me” on what they believe is the truth about Donald Trump that I am so “ignorant” about.
    Other comments I frequently get are that I am “obviously a Marxist liberal” and support Biden, since I do not support Trump.
    This is utter nonsense, of course, as any of our regular readers will know. I have publicly stated many, many times that the only two real “sides” that exist are the Kingdom of God which extends from heaven to earth in the spiritual realm through the true believers, and the domain of Satan which is this current world system.
    Political divisions are all fake, and their purpose is to keep us all divided so we cannot fight together against our real enemies. See:
    It’s Time to Choose Sides: Do You Even Know What Side You Are On?

    This is the classic definition of a “cult,” when facts and real science are tossed aside for beliefs that contradict the actual facts.
    The Free Dictionary website, which uses the more traditional “American Heritage Dictionary,” defines “cult” as:
    cult (kŭlt)
    n.
    1. a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
    b. The followers of such a religion or sect.
    2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
    3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
    4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
    5. a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
    b. The object of such devotion.
    6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.
    Donald Trump is a billionaire who supports his billionaire buddies in Big Pharma, as he sings the praises of companies like Pfizer, the most evil company probably in the world today.
    And we know that Donald Trump supports these companies, because he told us so himself. Here it from his own mouth:
    With our military now crippled by these shots, Donald Trump should not only be arrested and tried for mass murder, he should also be charged with sedition or treason, and if convicted, face the death penalty.
    And all of you “conservatives” supporting him, you now have blood on your hands and are guilty as well.
    In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you …. (2 Corinthians 11:20)

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Good to see more people calling out Trumpstein!

    I have to look up how many times he renewed that state of emergency (which was what allowed the states to lock down, right?)--I think that Potter guy said it was 3 times. I know the people at american intelligence media have been calling out Trump for renewing the state of emergency (they see him as a traitor). Scroll down here, lots on Trumpstein, including Trumpstein thanking a guy for saying he's the best president for Israel https://aim4truth.org/2021/11/09/cat-report-718/

    https://aim4truth.org/2021/09/16/the...-on-hhs-fraud/


    Trump’s Lethal “Operation Warp Speed” Jabs

    https://newswithviews.com/trumps-lethal-operation-warp-speed-jabs/

    By Kelleigh Nelson December 28, 2021
    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution the time will come when medicine will organize itself into an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to doctors and deny equal privileges to others will constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic. —Dr. Benjamin Rush
    Freedom of choice must be brought to bear upon the US Medical practice. —Congressman Phil Crane
    One of the first duties of the physician is to educate the masses not to take medicine. —William Osler (1849-1919) Described as the Father of Modern Medicine
    They do not cover the new variants; patients are failing on these vaccines. They’re being hospitalized and getting sick despite having had the vaccines.The vaccines at this point in time have amounted to record mortality and injury and should be considered unsafe and unfit for human use. —Dr. Peter A. McCullough


    Dr. Stephen Hahn, the mild-mannered former chief medical executive of the MD Anderson Cancer Center, became the commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration shortly after the coronavirus broke out in China.

    He quickly found himself in an uncomfortable position. The White House wanted an emergency approval of one of the vaccines being developed to treat COVID-19. Under a massive and secretive government effort, “Operation Warp Speed,” was one of the most consequential public health decisions in American history. The FDA’s scientific determinations, as to whether a vaccine is safe and effective enough to give to millions of healthy Americans, are dicey enough. But Hahn, like so many top federal health officials, seemed to have found himself in a tightening vice.


    President Trump, his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and his son-in-law and special adviser, Jared Kushner, all called Dr. Hahn directly, urging him to accelerate emergency authorization of vaccines and treatments, i.e., Remdesivir.

    If Hahn didn’t cave and accelerate the approval, potentially jeopardizing safety, the decision could be taken from the FDA and rammed through by Trump’s Health and Human Services Secretary, Alex Azar, the former President of Eli Lilly USA. Hahn also knew that if he stood up to Trump, he would be fired.He was willing to be dismissed rather than serve as a presidential puppet.

    On December 10, 2020, Dr. Hahn testified during a Senate “Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Hearing” on the federal government response to COVID-19. White House Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows had pressed Hahn to grant emergency use authorization (EUA) for Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine by the end of the day on December 11, 2020.


    Biopharmaceutical History


    The history of all four pharmaceutical companies involved in creating the COVID-19 jab is certainly not pretty. America’s Medical Mafia: Biopharmaceutical Companies, written in May of this year, exposed the past of these companies and the many lawsuits against them. Because the COVID vax is an EUA, it is protected from lawsuits by the federal government via the PREP Act signed into law by President George W. Bush.

    https://newswithviews.com/wp-content...ne-250x300.pngThe US Government has a secret history of grisly experiments on animals and humans, and these COVID jabs are no different; Americans are human lab rats. In 2010, I wrote a ten-part article entitled, American Citizens as Guinea Pigs. Part two included the detrimental polio vaccine tainted with Simian Virus-40 which causes soft tissue cancers and is genetically passed. It was never pulled from the market.
    Here is a partial list of the many failed drugs taken off market after dangerous side effects or deaths. This does not include the 1976 swine flu vaccine pulled after 25 to 50 deaths.
    Trump Promotes Vax/Boosters
    If you’ve had the CCP virus, you have lifetime immunity as evidenced in 140 studies. You do not need the Sars-coV-2 jabs, or any of the boosters. Dr. Peter McCullough states, “Once and done.” There is no need to worry about getting the virus again.
    Dr. McCullough writes that there are risks for those who have recovered from the CCP virus who then receive the Sars-voV-2 jabs. Medical research concludes that the COVID-19 jabs are dangerous for those who have already had the virus and have recovered with inferred robust, complete, and durable immunity.A medical study of United Kingdom healthcare workers who had already had COVID-19 and then received the vaccine found that they suffered higher rates of side effects than the average population.
    So why has former President Trump taken both jabs and now the booster when he obviously recovered from the virus while he was still the 45th president? Or did he take them? Did he get the placebo instead? Doesn’t he have physicians who will tell him the truth? Doesn’t he do any research? Doesn’t he read? Why wasn’t he and his family put on Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin to keep them from ever contracting the virus? Where was Dr. Scott Atlas with this important information, or did Trump rebuff him? There are simply too many unanswered questions and too many statements by Trump that are untrue.


    Trump tell us we’re playing right into their hands when we doubt the vaccine. Whose hands? He made the remarks during a live event with former Fox News pundit Bill O’Reilly.“We did something historic, we saved tens of millions of lives worldwide,” said Trump, before going on to credit the vaccine for preventing a repeat of the Spanish flu, which infected nearly a third of the world and killed as many as 100 million people. The reality is the carnage from the lethal injections will make the 1917 flu pale in comparison.

    The comparison is somewhat alarmist given that the Spanish flu had a 2.5% global mortality rate, which is substantially larger than Sars-coV-2’s actual mortality rate when you discount the many PCR false positive tests. Many who had bacterial pneumonia and could have been saved with antibiotics were left to die because C-19 was diagnosed, and that’s not even mentioning the worthless stakeholder/medical protocols used on C-19 hospital patients.
    https://newswithviews.com/wp-content...bs-300x150.pngDespite Trump’s glorification of the vax, he said it shouldn’t be mandatory. Well, it isn’t mandatory for federal politicians and stakeholders, and the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens crossing our southern border.
    When interviewed by Candace Owens, our 45th president claimed no one had been hurt by these jabs, when that is just a flat out lie! Over 111 airline pilots are dead from the jab, over 75 sports figures have died on the fields, young men are getting myocarditis, which destroys their heart muscle with inflammation. Even Trump’s buddy, Franklin Graham ended up with pericarditis. Graham told us we all should get the vax, that if Jesus were here, he’d get the vax. What absolute total rubbish!
    Trump should take a look at the Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System (VAERS) numbers out by Lifesite News from Dec. 14, 2020 to Dec. 10, 2021. Only one percent is reported, so multiply the numbers by 100 and you’ll get the actual death and adverse effect figures since the clot shot came out.
    To top it off, Trump echoes the commie Pravda media and tells Candace that 90% of the people in hospitals are unvaccinated, when exactly the opposite is true. Those in hospital sick with Sars-coV-2 are jabbed with one or all of the clot shots including the booster, but if you’ve had the jabs within the last two weeks, hospitals count you as unvaxed. And many get sick or die within the first two weeks after the inoculation. Trump is spewing information from CNN, MSNBC, Fauci and the snakeholders.
    There has never been a vaccine for a virus! We know this is not a real vaccine! Why would Trump promote such a thing? Is it pride? That’s the only thing that makes sense. He keeps lauding the fact that he and he alone created “Operation Warp Speed” and saved the country from COVID…a virus 99.8% recover from. We all know, “Pride goeth before the fall.”
    COVID Jabs are Shielded
    Take note that the federal government shields Pfizer/Moderna/J&J from liability and has given them billions of dollars and is forcing Americans to take their product. But they won’t let you see the data supporting its safety/efficacy. Just who does the government work for?
    The FDA has asked a federal judge to make the public wait until the year 2076 to disclose all of the data and information it relied upon to license Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine. That is not a typo. It wants 55 years to produce this information to the public. It’s been 58 years since John F. Kennedy was assassinated and even Donald J. Trump did not release the truth to the public.
    As explained in this article, the FDA repeatedly promised “full transparency” with regard to Covid-19 vaccines, including reaffirming “the FDA’s commitment to transparency” when licensing Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine.
    More than 30 academics, professors, and scientists from this country’s most prestigious universities requested the data and information submitted to the FDA by Pfizer to license its COVID-19 vaccine.
    The FDA’s response? It produced nothing. In September, Attorney Aaron Siri’s firm filed a lawsuit against the FDA on behalf of this group to demand this information. To date, almost three months after it licensed Pfizer’s vaccine, the FDA still had not released a single page; finally it released under 100 pages which you can read here.
    Support for Trump
    I know in my heart the 2020 election was rigged, that Donald J. Trump won the election, hands down. Our 45th president did many wonderful things for this country, and we had a four-year Nineveh. (If you don’t know the story, read the book of Jonah in the Old Testament; it comes right after Obadiah, and right before Micah and is important history.)
    My 2016 support for Donald Trump never wavered. I wrote article after article supporting him, two of which he actually used in rallies and the first one helped him to get rid of Jeb Bush. The second article he used at a rally in Alabama explaining why the media is allowed to lie about public figures. Why Alabama? Because that’s where these legal suits started and then ended with the Supreme Court decision in NYTs v. Sullivan.
    The mere fact that it took President Trump four years to realize just exactly who and what his Vice President really was, and who and what his Senior Counselor, Kellyanne Conway was…tells me the man has little discernment as to those who are really on his side. Pence sent Trump to controlled-opposition Heritage Foundation and Conway sent him to the Federalist Society, both of whom steered Trump to Supreme Court nominees who, we now know, are anything but conservative. Conway and Pence have been friends for years and have family who are intermarried. They worked together.
    Pence was given challenge after challenge by Trump, and failed at every one of them, including being in charge of the Coronavirus Task Force. He gave us Fauci, Birx and Redfield and they destroyed our economy and Trump…just as their handlers planned. Read Pence’s history… [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link].
    On January 6th, 2021, Pence stabbed Trump in the back and the Republic in the heart. Finally, after four years, Trump saw the real face of his Vice President…one who had no problem elbow bumping with Pelosi.
    Throughout Trump’s administration, he never chose people outside the Deep State. He hired from the swamp over and over and over again. He took Chris Christie’s suggestion and hired Christopher Wray as FBI Director. Then he listened to Attorneys Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing and hired Deep Stater Bill Barr as Attorney General.
    Only once did he hire outside the swamp when he appointed Lt. General Michael T. Flynn as National Security Advisor. General Flynn was his finest choice and was terminated within weeks by the deceit and duplicity of the FBI and their backdoor into Pence’s office. Pence’s Chief of Staff was Josh Pitcock whose wife worked for Peter Strzok and Lisa Page allegedly checking Hillary Clinton’s emails.
    Trump listened to Deep Stater Pence rather than the General who had decades of intel knowledge. He needed General Flynn, but he ended up with Deep Staters in that very important position over and over again. Far too many people saw his choices as guided by those from the swamp and completely incompatible with Trump, which they proved to be. A prime example is that Christopher Wray is still head of the FBI and Trump should have pulled his nomination during Wray’s Senate hearings.
    Conclusion
    Around the world hundreds of thousands have died, not from Sars-coV-2, but from the messenger RNA vaccines, millions have suffered permanent disabilities and adverse effects. The buck ultimately stops with Trump. He chose to put Pence in charge of the Coronavirus https://newswithviews.com/wp-content...go-300x300.gifTask Force, and Pence brought in the Deep State stakeholders.The NIH, FDA, CDC or AMA never approved any early home treatment and banned long approved safe and cheap drugs that would have cured.
    People were told there was nothing to be done, go home…and when it got worse, they went to the hospital, were put on oxygen and then ventilators, and 80% of them died. The ultimate goal was the huge moneymaker for Big Pharma…the “vaccines.” Dr. McCullough tells us that 86% of the people who died of the virus could have been saved, but obviously that was not the goal of the snake holders.
    Excuses for Trump can be made, yet the buck stops with him. He was our Commander in Chief. There is no question that the guilt of negligence is Trump’s, but the guilt of homicide belongs to Big Pharma. They were the ones that knew what they were doing. Trump’s negligence was not blowing the whistle on them and firing Fauci and the heads of these fraudulent government entities. You can make the case of malicious contempt in the action of Fauci and the officials of Big Pharma, all of whom need to do time at the very least. Trump keeps pushing the lethal vax, why? Is it pride alone? Is it stupidity? Or is it that he is not what he represented himself to be?
    Would I ever support Trump again? Only if he is man enough to admit that he made a mistake and provide leadership that results in correction. Repentance is the foundation of our Judeo-Christian faith.
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    You guys do realize Trump is not president anymore? Why aren't you attacking biden like this?
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    You guys do realize Trump is not president anymore? Why aren't you attacking biden like this?
    Trump is much more dangerous than Biden to us, due to him basically being the leader of the right.

    Biden is deeply unpopular and doesn’t have any real power.

    Trump on the other hand is shaping the path that the right goes down. He’s picking and choosing congress members in the primary stage through endorsements, and his position on things is considered to represent what the right wants, including what compromises the right is willing to make.

    Republican leaders are always much more dangerous than democrat leaders. Look at Ronald Reagan. They did amnesty, the NFA act, and in general was one of the most terrible presidents. Look at Nixon who made an alliance with China.

    Trump is the only one who is actually in a position to backstab us. Any action done by the other side will have a massive counter force against it. But any action by Trump will be quelled and tacitly accepted.

    I think that Trump did a pretty good job as president, given the circumstances and what he was up against. At a minimum he exposed corruption beyond anyone’s wildest imagination. He got a movement going. He taught us the behaviors that it takes to win.

    But something happened to him. There seems to especially have been an inflection point around January 6th. I listed above in another post the specific reasons I don’t support him anymore, but it really comes down to a lack of confidence and trust. I don’t think he’sa bad guy, but no way in hell would I give him power again, because we would be completely at his mercy just like we were with Reagan, and we could easily get gutted. He has simply shown poor judgement.

    So to answer your question, the reason we are attacking Trump and not Biden is because Trump is much more dangerous. We need to make it clear that it’s time for him to bow out and end on a high note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vacuum View Post
    Trump is much more dangerous than Biden to us, due to him basically being the leader of the right.

    Biden is deeply unpopular and doesn’t have any real power.

    Trump on the other hand is shaping the path that the right goes down. He’s picking and choosing congress members in the primary stage through endorsements, and his position on things is considered to represent what the right wants, including what compromises the right is willing to make.

    Republican leaders are always much more dangerous than democrat leaders. Look at Ronald Reagan. They did amnesty, the NFA act, and in general was one of the most terrible presidents. Look at Nixon who made an alliance with China.

    Trump is the only one who is actually in a position to backstab us. Any action done by the other side will have a massive counter force against it. But any action by Trump will be quelled and tacitly accepted.

    I think that Trump did a pretty good job as president, given the circumstances and what he was up against. At a minimum he exposed corruption beyond anyone’s wildest imagination. He got a movement going. He taught us the behaviors that it takes to win.

    But something happened to him. There seems to especially have been an inflection point around January 6th. I listed above in another post the specific reasons I don’t support him anymore, but it really comes down to a lack of confidence and trust. I don’t think he’sa bad guy, but no way in hell would I give him power again, because we would be completely at his mercy just like we were with Reagan, and we could easily get gutted. He has simply shown poor judgement.

    So to answer your question, the reason we are attacking Trump and not Biden is because Trump is much more dangerous. We need to make it clear that it’s time for him to bow out and end on a high note.
    I don't think you'll have to worry about Trump running again. If by some chance a republican wins in 24, you can bet he/she will be a GOP approved, complete sell out.
    Take heart, the country is toast in whatever happens. Tell your children they have no future and every last bit of freedom will be taken from them.
    You can blame Trump if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EE_ View Post
    I don't think you'll have to worry about Trump running again. If by some chance a republican wins in 24, you can bet he/she will be a GOP approved, complete sell out.
    Take heart, the country is toast in whatever happens. Tell your children they have no future and every last bit of freedom will be taken from them.
    You can blame Trump if you like.
    I pretty much agree. I don’t blame Trump. But we need to regroup at this point.

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    I've decided I'm going to run for president! I hope I can count on you guys to help support me!
    I researched this and found I need to spend $5,000 and contact the Secretary of State in all 50 states for the forms needed to be listed.

    Oh, by the way, this will be the shortest campaign in history. The 1st day I'm on the the ballots, I will drop out. The rest of my life you will refer to me as "former presidential candidate"...like all the other losers that tout that moniker for life.
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