I've about given up posting anything in this thread because so many of the stories on the net are fiction. So many people are trying to make a living with a youtube channel and they make shit up to get views.
There are only a few like Fred Roehl that I think are honest and actually retell the stories he gathers that are real accounts of what people have encountered.
I've got the feeling that Steve Isdahl is reading stories mostly for the money too, even though he claims not to be.

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