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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    agree, that's a good one. Now if we could keep sandy hook- conspiratorial perspective- posts in one thread, that'd be great!

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    I would also like a credible "primary source" link for the 'meme' that none of the parents were able to see their dead kids in the flesh, but settled for photos if that. I'd like to propagate this elsewhere as it would be an astonishing "anomaly" wrt the official story-- but not without a credible source link. All I've seen is the "parents" clip with the smiley parents touting their girl's OWL drawing, and saying they were happy not to see her physically; "wanted to remember her better alive self".... but every time I've heard (truth-radio podcasts) or seen this "no parent physical inspections" claim, it's been "hearsay" with no reliable source accompanying.


    edit: start of Anderson Vanderbilt/Cooper interview with smiley parents at ~2:30, OWL at 5:25,

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    There is preliminary identification by photo @ 0:39



    somewhere else he is asked if the ID will be by photo and says yes, then there was some comment about parents not needing to see things... not sure if it was same person. There is a longer version of the interview that runs 15:30
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Then you better rip this video real quick before YT takes it down

    15 min interview


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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Thats the one TT. Just after minute 7 he states that they did not bring the children and parents together for formal ID. They took facial photos of the children and used those.

    Between minute 4 and minute 7 he states that all the victims he saw had been killed by the long gun.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    it occurs that another "lesson" they're trying to "teach" americans via this psyop is, "they" own you, your kids. The actor/parents pretending they're just fine with taking big-brother's word that their kid's dead, they didn't want to see anyways- and the only funerals we've heard anything about were- yep, closed casket. Think of the state child stealing phenom in US through CPS, and UK as Brian Gerrish has tried to publicize-- same bottom line, training the public that they OWN your kids, not you. "They" can give your kids poison jabs as they wish, they can take your kids & make them sex slave/trauma-based MK drones as they wish (recall: Children possibly shipped to Denver)- suck it up. But with the pretend-parent/actors in this s.hook fraud, they're trying to "normalize" all this ^.

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    All I've seen is the "parents" clip with the smiley parents touting their girl's OWL drawing, and saying they were happy not to see her physically; "wanted to remember her better alive self"
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    it occurs that another "lesson" they're trying to "teach" americans via this psyop is, "they" own you, your kids. The actor/parents pretending they're just fine with taking big-brother's word that their kid's dead, they didn't want to see anyways- and the only funerals we've heard anything about were- yep, closed casket.
    This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by madfranks View Post
    This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.
    Indeed, I find it very odd that out of 40 adults there weren't at least SOME who didn't make a stink out of not getting to see the bodies of their babies and receiving a 'locked' casket instead. We supposed to believe that.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by madfranks View Post
    This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.
    I'm very shocked as well. How can they even take custody of the body? It doesn't belong to them. Once the autopsy is complete they should be handing them over.

    The only reasonable thing to do would be to picket the crime scene yelling "hand over my child!". Force them to either give you your kid or put you in jail.

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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    I'm very shocked as well. How can they even take custody of the body? It doesn't belong to them. Once the autopsy is complete they should be handing them over.

    The only reasonable thing to do would be to picket the crime scene yelling "hand over my child!". Force them to either give you your kid or put you in jail.
    Picket the crime scene? Hell, if it was my kid I'd be marching into that school and they'd have to stop me with deadly force to keep me from seeing my child.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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    The New Sandy Hook School

    Posted on January 4, 2013 by lynne0312


    I find it very interesting how quickly all of this transpired. From the decision to offer and then prepare Chalk school for the students, to all of the arrangements, the financial decisions, the physical move, the coordination between the two towns and school boards and the decision to rename the school. All of it happened quite quickly considering the typical bureaucracy involved with school boards and town councils and we are talking about a separate town AND a separate school district.

    The offer of the use of Chalk Hill school was reportedly made by Monroe First Selectman Steve Vavrek to the Newtown officials on the day of the shooting!


    Monroe First Selectman Steve Vavrek said Monday night that he reached out to Newtown First Selectman Patricia Llorda as soon as he heard about the shooting, offering the use of the vacant school.



    I searched for school board meeting minutes on both the Newtown and Monroe town websites and there is no mention of this move. Monroe even has minutes from their school board meeting on 12-17-12 and there is nothing mentioned about Sandy Hook at all. There is no mention on either site about who will pay for the school or how the new school would be managed since they would now technically be part of a new school district. There was no word of a vote of school board members about this move. Nothing at all. Yet we’re too believe that amidst all of the chaos with this horrible tragedy that town officials not only worked out all of the financial details involved but they also worked out all of the logistics, moved all of the furnishings down to the childrens’ backpacks and water bottles and decorated the new school with snowflakes on the windows?!


    They did construction to accommodate the students, such as raising the floors in the lavatories, they arranged all of the transportation changes with the busing company, got the building up to code and inspected, arranged all of the food service, office staff, hired a new principal, officially renamed the school, etc. ALL of this allegedly occurred in a two week span and during the holidays. Amazing!
    I also found it very interesting that Chalk Hill school is also being used by Monroe Parks and Recreation.


    The last time Chalk Hill was used as a school, the sixth grade was on the second floor and the building was shared with the Parks & Recreation Department downstairs. Parks & Rec. is still there and the Monroe Volunteer Emergency Medical Service uses the building for training.



    Note that the address for the new Sandy Hook school is listed as 375 Fan Hill Road. I searched the Parks and Recreation website and noticed that there are still many active classes listed for Chalk Middle school. Interestingly, the address is listed as 375 Monroe Turnpike. According to the Parks website, Fawn Hollow Elementary is located at 375 Fan Hill Road.




    These are some of the activities listed for Chalk Hill School:



    So we’re to believe that all of this is taking place at the same location as the new Sandy Hook school? Wow.


    The article referenced above also mentions that Fawn Hollow Elementary was built on the same property as Chalk Middle school.


    Chalk Hill was built in the back of the same property where Fawn Hollow Elementary School is. It was designed by architect, Fletcher-Thompson Inc.
    This all gets confusing, but contrary to the Parks and Rec website which lists the address for Fawn Hollow as 375 Fan Hill Rd, there is also information elsewhere that lists it as 345 Fan Hill Road.






    This is 375 Monroe Turnpike on Google Maps. It is labeled as “Monroe Board of Education” in Google Maps.





    A bit down the road is what appears to be another school. If you hover over it, it appears to be 362 Monroe, but I’m unable to find a listing for a school at that address.



    However, the Monroe school board website has Monroe Elementary listed as 375 Monroe Turnpike. The website is strange as there is no photo of the school and the website is not being kept up to date. The most recent announcement is about school pictures in September ’12.






    This is all so confusing and I’m not sure what’s going on. Consider this though. No media was allowed to be anywhere near the new Sandy Hook school as students began classes this week. I don’t trust any of this because I don’t believe it would have been possible to accomplish all of this in this short time span and there is no evidence to support the claims. A photo of the newly converted school and signs “welcome Sandy Hook students” isn’t enough to convince me that any of this took place, especially after seeing the address discrepancies described above. Something is seriously wrong here.


    Here’s the Google image of the three schools at that location, the location where the “new” Sandy Hook School is allegedly located – Fawn Hollow Elementary (345 or 375 Fan Hill RD), Chalk Hill / New Sandy Hook (375 Fan Hill RD OR 375 Monroe Turnpike) and a middle school Jockey Hollow Middle school (365 Fan Hill RD).





    In addition to moving the students to a new school, volunteers are now building a new playground at the location. Yeah, right!


    There is also easy access to the field in the back of the building, where volunteers are now building a playground for Sandy Hook Elementary School.



    There is much to say about all of this but I don’t want this post to get too lengthy, so I have just a couple of final thoughts for now.


    If Sandy Hook is still considered an “active” crime scene, how did they allow workers with moving vans to enter the building and remove all of the bookcases, the student’s desks and even their backpacks without disturbing the crime scene?


    And finally, not only did they by some miracle achieve this school relocation but they staffed the Monroe police department with enough officers so that 10 of them could guard the new school! This is what their bright new uniforms look like.



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