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vacuum
23rd January 2020, 04:38 AM
Wuhan (11 mil), Huanggang (7.5 mil), and Ezhou (1.1 mil) are sealed shut and some services suspended.
All outbound flights canceled, movie theaters shut down, central market shut down, public transport (trains, buses) temporarily shut down.
https://news.yahoo.com/china-warns-virus-could-mutate-spread-death-toll-030352863.html
Some say that the coronavirus may have a 2% kill rate (same as Spanish Flu which killed ~50 mil)
kiffertom
23rd January 2020, 05:00 AM
here is a live map updated daily.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Jewboo
23rd January 2020, 09:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL5fhiUYgJg
Chinese eat all kinds of disgusting slop (http://www.therustyrudder.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/chinese-street-food-tour-in-xian.jpg)...is only a matter of time.
:rolleyes:
Did patient zero really catch new Chinese virus by eating infected bat soup? (https://www.rt.com/news/478997-bat-soup-china-virus-wuhan/)
midnight rambler
23rd January 2020, 09:28 AM
Mmmm! Chicken nuggets!
Book everyone knows that Asians don't waste a single gram of a chicken, every last bit of a chicken gets made into food of some form.
An associate made a business trip to China 20 years ago. His hosts treated him to (cow) eyeball soup. Yep, eyeballs in a soup...yummy!
midnight rambler
23rd January 2020, 10:42 AM
Snakes on a plane!
https://www.studyfinds.org/chinese-coronavirus-outbreak-traced-back-to-snakes-study-finds/
Amanda
23rd January 2020, 12:16 PM
China virus epidemic—the Gong Show on roller skates
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/23/china-virus-epidemic-the-gong-show-on-roller-skates/
You automatically believe this Chinese coronavirus is a killer? You automatically believe the press when they ratchet up the fear? You automatically believe medical experts have found a virus and proved it’s causing human illness?
You’re on the Gong Show on roller skates.
Congratulations.
The Chinese government has now shut down transportation in the huge city of Wuhan, where the supposedly deadly coronavirus first surfaced a few months ago. Where? At an open air fish and meat market. Anyone looking into contaminated flesh at the market? Dangerous lack of sanitation? They’re looking into “the virus.” Naturally. And as I keep saying in past and recent articles, we have a massive tradition of FAKE EPIDEMICS.
You have to understand: most people don’t want to hear this. It’s rather astonishing. Most people feel compelled to believe in the virus, believe it’s dangerous, it’s a killer, it’s real, it’s a global threat. Pro-vaccine people, anti-vaccine people, it doesn’t matter. They salute THE VIRUS.
In my last article (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/22/is-the-new-deadly-china-virus-a-covert-operation/), I detailed how former “epidemics,” SARS (coronavirus) and Swine Flu, turned out to be complete fakes. Eventually, it leaked out that medical experts couldn’t find the virus in people. You should really read that article, and read it again. And think about the implications.
Medical research honchos and the press are still calling the 2003 SARS dud an epidemic. Official stats indicate 800 people died, worldwide. If that’s an epidemic, there are pink tigers walking around on the far side of the moon.
Now, when they talk about rushing a vaccine into production “against the virus,” that’s a whole different story. They tried that in 2009 with Swine Flu, and it caused profound and horrific results. I’ve read the patent info that’s now circulating on the Web—for a vaccine against a coronavirus. It’s hard to tell, but it could be a DNA vaccine. If it is, that means the vaccine will permanently alter the genetic makeup (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2017/11/05/new-vaccines-will-permanently-alter-your-dna/) of anyone who takes the shot.
Here’s something else you should think about. The so-called origin points of epidemics. SARS (2003), the Amoy Gardens apartment complex in Hong Kong. Swine Flu (2009), a giant commercial pig farm in La Gloria, Mexico. And now, in 2020, the Chinese coronavirus, an open air animal and fish market in Wuhan.
At the Amy Gardens complex, there were leaks in the pipes. Human waste was leaking. People were falling ill. My, what a surprise. They needed to call in a plumber, not the World Health Organization virus hunters.
At the pig farm, in La Gloria, huge feces lagoons, yes, were lying there out in the sun. The lagoons were routinely sprayed with toxic chemicals. Workers were falling ill. What a shock. So they brought in people to spray even more toxic chemicals on the pig shit lagoons. They needed a major environmental clean-up. Instead, they got World Health and CDC virus hunters.
And now, in Wuhan, the virus hunters are at it again. They want to test the animal flesh at the market for viruses. Here are a few recommendations. Check the water supply in the market. Is it dirty? Check the refrigeration. Are the fish and animal meat always fresh? Is the place clean? Is it washed down well every day? Actually LOOK at the premises. I know, it’s a revolutionary act, but steel yourself and go ahead.
“Yes, but what about the other cases of the China coronavirus that have been identified in other countries? Where did they come from?”
Answer: How do you know these other cases are a result of the coronavirus? The symptoms in most of these fake epidemics are the same—they’re basic flu symptoms—fatigue, fever, cough, weakness. A person could come down with THAT for a hundred different reasons.
I started writing about viruses that were never proved to cause human illness—or weren’t even there to begin with—in 1987. All these years later, I find myself still doing it. Why?
BECAUSE ‘THE VIRUS’ IS THE GREATEST COVER STORY ON THE PLANET. IT ATTRACTS BELIEVERS FROM WALL TO WALL.
Professionals invoke it to cover up a multitude of crimes.
For example, in parts of Africa, where the water supplies are contaminated to the hilt, where people are hungry and dying of starvation, where people have chronic diarrhea and are dying from dehydration, where extreme poverty and war for economic gain are routine, where corporate interests are stealing farm land from the people and poisoning the environment, where toxic medical drugs and vaccines are killing people whose immune systems are already compromised—you can ignore all that because…the real problem, the one serious problem, you see, is:
THE VIRUS.
Sure. Pump up that story to the max, get medical testimony, research money, the whole insane apparatus, and paint over what is actually happening there, and you’re in. You’re in control. You’re king.
Believe in the virus. Pray to the virus. Fear the virus.
—Here is a backgrounder I wrote some time ago that will add clarity on fake virus epidemic operations:
The big one: how environmental killing becomes a medical disease
The giant pig farm disaster: a medical hoax and cover story
The full truth has never been told—until now.
by Jon Rappoport
January 18, 2017
“To handle all that [pig-farm feces] waste, farmers in North Carolina use a standard practice called the lagoon and spray field system. They flush feces and urine from barns into open-air pits called lagoons, which turn the color of Pepto-Bismol when pink-colored bacteria colonize the waste. To keep the lagoons from overflowing, farmers spray liquid manure on their fields nearby. The result, says Steve Wing, an epidemiologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, is this: ‘The eastern part of North Carolina is covered with shit’.” —National Geographic, 10/30/14 (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141028-hog-farms-waste-pollution-methane-north-carolina-environment/)
The above quote describes corporate pig farming around the world.
In order to carry out this operation, giant companies like Smithfield have influenced legislators and government-agency officials. Environmental laws and regulations are ignored, or changed. Lawsuits are fought, hammer and tongs.
Here is what Robert F Kennedy Jr. told radio interviewer, Rachel Lewis Hilburn on 6/3/16 (http://www.whqr.org/post/coastline-robert-f-kennedy-jr-origin-cafos-environmental-justice#stream/0):
“…a hog produces ten times the amount of fecal waste by weight as a human being, so if you have a facility that has ten thousand hogs in it, it’s producing as much sewage as a city of a hundred thousand people. Smithfield has one plant in Utah—they call it Circle Four Farms—that has a million hogs on it, so it’s producing the same amount of waste as New York City every day.”
Here is Kennedy’s kicker:
“There’s no difference between hog waste and human waste in terms of its danger to human health. They [Smithfield and other giant corporate pig operations] ought to have to have a sewage treatment plant that cleans it up. And yet, if they had to build that sewage treatment plan, it would drive the price of hogs up so that they could no longer function in the marketplace… they ought to have to build sewage treatment facilities but nobody’s making them do that because they have used political clout…”
All right, that’s a bit of background. Now I’m going to shift to the subject of Swine Flu, the phony epidemic of 2009.
Where did it start?
At a Smithfield pig-raising operation in Perote, Mexico (https://grist.org/article/2009-04-25-swine-flu-smithfield/); in a village called La Gloria. Smithfield raises 950,000 hogs a year there.
Press reports described outdoor “pig feces lagoons” on the property. When workers began to get sick, the area was sprayed with unknown chemicals. More workers fell ill and died.
Anyone with a basic knowledge of public health could testify that this combination of mind-boggling (non-) sanitation, plus strong germicides, plus other toxic chemicals routinely dumped in the feces lagoons, could and would cause human disease.
In fact, it doesn’t matter which particular germs are present in the mix.
People at the CDC had to be well aware of this. Yet, in 2009, their choice was to rush researchers to the Smithfield operation in La Gloria, Mexico, armed with the unfounded assumption that some novel virus, never before seen, was the culprit, and their job was to take blood samples and discover what the new germ was.
Why? Why assume, when workers who operate in that kind of environment get sick, there is some new disease at work? The symptoms of the workers were not unusual, given the circumstances.
Workers dying in that vat of filth and chemical soup should be expected.
But, up front, based on no evidence, the CDC on-site team was going for a new germ and a new disease, and that’s what they announced they had found. A gullible world, fed by press reports, bought in.
And that’s how the fake epidemic called Swine Flu was launched.
All the focus that could have centered on the highly toxic Smithfield pig operation in La Gloria was diverted.
Diverted to a virus.
H1N1 it was called. The Swine Flu virus.
Suddenly, it was a medical problem. Not an environmental disaster. It was RE-INVENTED as a medical problem.
If you don’t yet get what I’m pointing out here, imagine this:
You’re living in an old sewage tunnel under a city. You’re surrounded by human excrement and biting insects and fetid waste water and foul air—and when you fall ill, you suddenly see virus-hunting researchers, not haz-mat rescue workers, approach you and take blood samples. Are they crazy?
No, they’re just doing what their bosses tell them to do. Because the CDC is fronting for, and protecting, major corporate agricultural criminals. Because your illness has to be shifted over to a “new disease and a new virus.”
On top of all this, the virus that these “researchers” do find, which, by the way, is in no way proven to cause disease, can be found all over the world. Why? Because it’s been around for a long, long time, and it has never caused any dire condition at all.
This is how the game works.
This is the medical hoax.
In the case of Swine Flu, it gets worse. It turns out that the virus is not so prevalent after all. That is why, in the early autumn of 2009, CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson discovered that the CDC, ignoring its mandate and charter, had secretly stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/swine-flu-cases-overestimated/). You see, the overwhelming percentage of blood samples taken from the most likely Swine Flu patients, when sent to labs for testing, were coming back with no trace of the so-called Swine Flu virus or any other flu virus. CBS put Attkisson’s published report on the shelf and never followed up on it.
Again, the virus as the cause of illness, was the cover story. Intelligence agencies float cover stories on a regular basis. It’s no accident that CDC has a large unit of virus hunters called the Epidemic Intelligence Service.
Right off the top, I can tell you they create disinformation on a scale that must make the CIA jealous.
Graduates of this EIS program, as proudly stated by the CDC, have gone on to occupy key positions in the overall medical cartel: Surgeons General; CDC directors; medical school deans and professors; medical foundation executives; drug-company and insurance executives; state health officials; medical editors and reporters in major media outlets.
It’s a loyal insider’s club. They collaborate to float prime-cut, A-number-one cover stories of extraordinary dimensions. They invent medical reality out of thin air.
Here is a brief excerpt from the CDC’s website, “50 Years of the Epidemic Intelligence Service” (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5015a1.htm):
“In 1951, EIS was established by CDC following the start of the Korean War as an early-warning system against biologic warfare and man-made epidemics. EIS officers selected for 2-year field assignments were primarily medical doctors and other health professionals…who focused on infectious disease outbreaks. EIS has expanded to include a range of public health professionals, such as postdoctoral scientists in statistics, epidemiology, microbiology, anthropology, sociology, and behavioral sciences. Since 1951, approximately 2500 EIS officers have responded to requests for epidemiologic assistance within the United States and throughout the world. Each year, EIS officers are involved in several hundred investigations of disease and injury problems, enabling CDC and its public health partners to make recommendations to improve the public’s health and safety.”
Several hundred investigations a year. An unparalleled opportunity to shape the truth into propaganda. Control of information about disease. Control out in the field, where EIS agents rush to the scene of “outbreaks,” all the way back through the hallowed halls of academia, into the press, into Big Pharma, into the government.
When I say control of information, I mean disinformation. That’s what the EIS is for. They’ve never met a virus they didn’t love, and if they couldn’t find one, they pretended they did.
They front for the medical cartel. And they provide cover for the crimes of mega-corporations. There’s a town where poverty-stricken people are dying, because horrendous pesticides are running into the water supply and soil? No, it’s a virus. There’s a hotel where the plumbing is broken and human waste is getting into all the bathrooms, and they want this hotel to be the epicenter of a new epidemic? No, it isn’t the plumbing, it’s a novel virus never seen before by man. There’s a section of a city where the industrial pollution is driving people over the edge into immune-system failure? No, it’s a virus.
And here’s the capper. Their propaganda is so good most of the EIS people believe it themselves. You don’t achieve that kind of robotic servitude without intense brainwashing. The first installment of the mind-control program is called medical school.
Psy-op and propaganda begin with the virus hunters of the EIS. They control and own the chokepoint of disease research. They blow up their scanty findings into ex-cathedra pronouncements.
And of course, this strengthens the vaccine establishment because, for every virus, there must be a vaccine: the shot in the arm, loaded with toxic chemicals and a variety of germs.
The EIS. The CDC’s band of brothers. The medical CIA.
“Show me vast pig-feces lagoons, and I’ll show you a virus you’ve never heard of before. I’ll protect corporate criminals from here to the moon…”
Jewboo
23rd January 2020, 01:49 PM
<-- My Avatar
The Chinese government has now shut down transportation in the huge city of Wuhan, where the supposedly deadly coronavirus first surfaced a few months ago. Where? At an open air fish and meat market. Anyone looking into contaminated flesh at the market? Dangerous lack of sanitation? They’re looking into “the virus.” Naturally. And as I keep saying in past and recent articles, we have a massive tradition of FAKE EPIDEMICS.…”
Darn it! Just when my avatar self loads my microwave with a bag of popcorn Amanda ruins my glee with undeniable FACT.
:D
Down1
23rd January 2020, 03:36 PM
Also the Chinese should really stop consuming what man was not meant to consume.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/coronal-virus/
This comes years after it was announced that a controversial facility would be opened in Wuhan where Chinese scientists would study the world’s most dangerous pathogens:
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/chinese-mad-science-viral-pandemic-starts-in-chinese-city-with-research-lab-for-worlds-most-dangerous-pathogens/
According to NBC Click2Houston, doctors were quickly able to confirm the patient’s flu-like symptoms are related to the Chinese Wuhan coronavirus, and will reveal if the coronavirus has indeed infected the student as soon as the test results come back positive.
The male patient had recently traveled from Wuhan, China, which is regarded as the epicenter of the virus.
https://nationalfile.com/breaking-texas-am-student-quarantined-in-suspected-case-of-wuhan-coronavirus/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=breaking-texas-am-student-quarantined-in-suspected-case-of-wuhan-coronavirus
Dachsie
23rd January 2020, 06:37 PM
Sorry, my bad. Just posted a new thread on this.
vacuum
24th January 2020, 12:09 AM
Some interesting facts on the Spanish Flu (also from China):
The 1918 influenza pandemic (January 1918 – December 1920; colloquially (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloquialism) known as Spanish flu) was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_pandemic), the first of the two pandemics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemics) involving H1N1 influenza virus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-1) It infected 500 million people around the world,[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-FOOTNOTETaubenbergerMorens2006-2) including people on remote Pacific islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_islands) and in the Arctic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic). Probably 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million (three to five percent of Earth's population at the time) died, making it one of the deadliest epidemics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics) in human history.
Most influenza outbreaks disproportionately kill the very young and the very old, with a higher survival rate for those in-between. However, the Spanish flu pandemic resulted in a higher than expected mortality rate for young adults.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-9)
Some analyses have shown the virus to be particularly deadly because it triggers a cytokine storm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm), which ravages the stronger immune system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system) of young adults.[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBarry2004b-15)
The pandemic mostly killed young adults. In 1918–1919, 99% of pandemic influenza deaths in the U.S. occurred in people under 65, and nearly half in young adults 20 to 40 years old. In 1920, the mortality rate among people under 65 had decreased sixfold to half the mortality rate of people over 65, but still, 92% of deaths occurred in people under 65.[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-FOOTNOTESimonsenClarkeSchonbergerArden1998-67) This is unusual since influenza is typically most deadly to weak individuals, such as infants (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant) under age two, adults over age 70, and the immunocompromised (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunocompromise).
Another oddity was that the outbreak was widespread in the summer and autumn (in the Northern Hemisphere (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere)); influenza is usually worse in winter.[71] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-71)
Modern analysis has shown the virus to be particularly deadly because it triggers a cytokine storm (overreaction of the body's immune system), which ravages the stronger immune system of young adults.[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBarry2004b-15) One group of researchers recovered the virus from the bodies of frozen victims and transfected (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfection) animals with it. The animals suffered rapidly progressive respiratory failure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_failure) and death through a cytokine storm. The strong immune reactions of young adults were postulated to have ravaged the body, whereas the weaker immune systems of children and middle-aged adults resulted in fewer deaths among those groups.[44] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBarry2004-44)
Amanda
24th January 2020, 07:52 AM
Greg Mannarino makes an interesting point here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZQbCrNmWFg
Stocks now negative across the board.. this IS the drop in crude weighing on stocks.. However, you MUST be convinced that this is "the virus." YOU are NOT allowed to know that the stock market is DEPENDENT on high crude prices.. expect a FF.
he thinks this is a distraction...
GM always talks about how certain sectors of the economy need oil to be at a certain level (apparently props up the stock market), so if it gets too low, then they stage some kind of false flag (like in the gulf or something) to make oil go back up
Shami-Amourae
24th January 2020, 12:56 PM
I think Mister Metokur just figured out the origins of this pandemic at 37:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHLeUveaadU
osoab
24th January 2020, 03:13 PM
So what are the guesses at the current real numbers for infected/deceased? You don't say you are locking down 43 million people for a few hundred cases.
Still watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=lk5XkhUKMDM&feature=emb_lo go
Coronavirus - Inside info and discussion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=lk5XkhUKMDM&feature=emb_logo)
Down1
25th January 2020, 09:21 AM
I LOVE YOU CORONA-CHAN !
https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/corona-chan.png
osoab
25th January 2020, 09:45 AM
I LOVE YOU CORONA-CHAN !
https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/corona-chan.png
Mexican piss water is the cure?
BrewTech
25th January 2020, 12:26 PM
Mexican piss water is the cure?
It's got electrolytes!
monty
25th January 2020, 02:39 PM
Mexican piss water is the cure?
About 15 years ago my brother, sisters and I went to Yuma, Arizona to visit our mother in her winter home. We all went across the Colorado River into Mexico to San Luis Rio Colorado. At midday we hailed a taxi and asked him to take us to some restaurant Mom’s husband liked. They were closed so the driver said he new a real good restaurant. My brother and I each ordered a Corona beer. It was in a different bottle than the imported Corona and no comparison to the Corona beer we get here in this country. That was one of the best tasting beers I have ever drunk.
Another was a Belgian beer one of my relatives served us in Denmark.
Down1
25th January 2020, 03:08 PM
Chinese Government Forces TV Host Who Popularized Eating Bats to Apologize
https://summit.news/2020/01/25/chinese-government-forces-tv-host-who-popularized-eating-bats-to-apologize/
mamboni
25th January 2020, 06:03 PM
https://summit.news/2020/01/25/chinese-government-forces-tv-host-who-popularized-eating-bats-to-apologize/Not as tasty as chilled monkey brains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MgyRO3c870
Neuro
26th January 2020, 01:28 AM
About 15 years ago my brother, sisters and I went to Yuma, Arizona to visit our mother in her winter home. We all went across the Colorado River into Mexico to San Luis Rio Colorado. At midday we hailed a taxi and asked him to take us to some restaurant Mom’s husband liked. They were closed so the driver said he new a real good restaurant. My brother and I each ordered a Corona beer. It was in a different bottle than the imported Corona and no comparison to the Corona beer we get here in this country. That was one of the best tasting beers I have ever drunk.
Another was a Belgian beer one of my relatives served us in Denmark.
I realize you went with a Mexican taxi driver, but your post made me think of Olmstein, who was/is a taxi driver in Arizona...
Jewboo
26th January 2020, 08:44 AM
Did patient zero really catch new Chinese virus by eating infected bat soup? (https://www.rt.com/news/478997-bat-soup-china-virus-wuhan/)
Chinese woman eating a bat. (https://twitter.com/i/status/1221130614310522880)
:rolleyes: gooks are disgusting
Tumbleweed
26th January 2020, 09:32 AM
Chinese woman eating a bat. (https://twitter.com/i/status/1221130614310522880)
:rolleyes: gooks are disgusting
Chinese man eating dead mice and tomatoes.:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGgWVFKXrOo
midnight rambler
26th January 2020, 10:38 AM
I just ordered 4 cases of 80 (320 total) 3M N95 (8210V) particle masks @ $1.48 each. Did this back 5 years ago when Ebola was a concern. N95 masks will dry up and the price will skyrocket so get 'em now if you can find them while still cheap. I'm also stocking up on a case of gallon jugs of Hibiclens. Then off to Costco to buy cases of nitrile gloves.
EE_
26th January 2020, 11:40 AM
If this virus really takes off, it could have a profound effect on the global economy. I'm sure the thought of that will make many people happy.
Once the population gets freaked out, with the help of the liberal media, people will stop going to restaurants, traveling on planes and going anywhere there's crowds. The economy will come to a screeching halt and the stock market will crash. Actually, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already.
I would guess the homeless population in places like San Francisco will get hit hard, being such a filthy breeding ground.
Is this the black swan everyone has been waiting for?
midnight rambler
26th January 2020, 11:43 AM
I'm sure the thought of that will make many people happy.
Are you projecting again?? ???
monty
26th January 2020, 11:53 AM
Headlines With a Voice ~ The Corona Virus was smuggled out of a Canadian lab into China
http://youtu.be/zVGhHn8NeIg
https://youtu.be/zVGhHn8NeIg
EE_
26th January 2020, 12:04 PM
Are you projecting again?? ???
No, what do you think the liberals/Democrats have been trying to do in the last 3 years, actually much longer?
Liberals hate our country and want to see it burn!
The fact that you said that makes me pause...hmmm?
midnight rambler
26th January 2020, 12:08 PM
You ARE projecting! I have a positive attitude about a positive outcome, OTOH YOU keep seeing a world of shit.
EE_
26th January 2020, 12:40 PM
You ARE projecting! I have a positive attitude about a positive outcome, OTOH YOU keep seeing a world of shit.
What are you talking about? Are you a liberal? What is your version of a positive outcome...total destruction of our country, blood in the streets?
I love my country and want it to prosper as long as possible. I never want to see Democrats in power again!
midnight rambler
26th January 2020, 12:50 PM
While I'm an optimistic realist apparently you're a twisted doomer who secretly can't wait for the balloon to go up, or so it would appear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY
EE_
26th January 2020, 12:58 PM
While I'm an optimistic realist apparently you're a twisted doomer who secretly can't wait for the balloon to go up, or so it would appear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY
Arguing with a liberal is futile...whatever you say is fine, I'm done.
midnight rambler
26th January 2020, 01:04 PM
I'm a classic liberal and proud of it. And FWIW I'm not arguing, just expressing my perspective. 2020 is shaping up to be a great year in my little corner of the world with the following years even better, despite everything.
What you see is what you get.
midnight rambler
26th January 2020, 01:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqUn71O0B6k
Jewboo
26th January 2020, 02:38 PM
N95 masks (https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Aura-Particulate-Respirator-9211-37193-AAD-N95-120-EA-Case/?N=5002385+3291536888&rt=rud)...get 'em now if you can find them while still cheap. I'm also stocking up on nitrile gloves (https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=853&ei=KBIuXrChJ8PE0PEP8a2poAg&q=nitrile+gloves&oq=nitrile+gloves&gs_l=img.3..0l10.9788.15998..16502...0.0..0.75.881 .14......0....2j1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i131.W9hmn4e3yWI&ved=0ahUKEwiw1dLkp6LnAhVDIjQIHfFWCoQQ4dUDCAU&uact=5#imgrc=_).
Last Year I stockpiled both.
:)
osoab
26th January 2020, 03:06 PM
Last Year I stockpiled both.
:)
The virus is 100nm. You could always use them to wipe.
Down1
26th January 2020, 03:41 PM
This guy says Vitamin D, Zinc & Resveratrol might be a better stock up method.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01/bill-sardi/your-chance-of-developing-symptoms-or-dying-from-the-menacing-coronavirus-that-now-threatens-global-human-populations-is-0-0000017482-symptoms-0-0000001137-death/
Cebu_4_2
26th January 2020, 05:14 PM
https://youtu.be/P_4uEaZQ2Kg
https://youtu.be/P_4uEaZQ2Kg
I like the album recording 100 times better but this is all I can get jewtube.
Jewboo
26th January 2020, 05:44 PM
The virus is 100nm.
Airborne viruses transfer in much-larger fluid droplets. (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/09/190903134732.htm)
Hitch
26th January 2020, 07:30 PM
Arguing with a liberal is futile...whatever you say is fine, I'm done.
Be done. Move on. I've met you in person. I know your quality of character, you are a man I could trust, always. If you trust my opinion....I'm done here as well.
You are not arguing with liberals on this site, you are interacting with demons. This forum is true evil.
Jewboo
26th January 2020, 07:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sucruqRrMS0
Cebu_4_2
26th January 2020, 09:11 PM
Be done. Move on. I've met you in person. I know your quality of character, you are a man I could trust, always. If you trust my opinion....I'm done here as well.
You are not arguing with liberals on this site, you are interacting with demons. This forum is true evil.
Poop Poop+ Tugboat song. Above^
midnight rambler
27th January 2020, 02:55 PM
The disposable N95 respirator masks are drying up fast.
Jewboo
27th January 2020, 04:07 PM
The disposable N95 respirator masks are drying up fast.
I bought my stockpile last year. Also bought a few "must have" items they now only manufacture. Wouldn't be surprised if China suddenly NOW buys out all of their own Amazon stuff...reversing the normal cargo direction. (https://www.livetradingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/chinese-cargo-ship.jpg)
:)
midnight rambler
27th January 2020, 05:43 PM
Those 3M 9211 masks you stocked up on were selling for as little as $85/case of 120 as recently as 12/20 on feebay. Now $2.50/each is the cheapest with most being $4-5/each. One online distributor (not on feebay) updated their website just today to say they may not be able to fulfill orders for N95 masks by the box or case.
midnight rambler
27th January 2020, 06:12 PM
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
Cebu_4_2
27th January 2020, 06:40 PM
Stocked up also.
Neuro
28th January 2020, 12:19 AM
Be done. Move on. I've met you in person. I know your quality of character, you are a man I could trust, always. If you trust my opinion....I'm done here as well.
You are not arguing with liberals on this site, you are interacting with demons. This forum is true evil.
Yep the forum is mostly consisting of Holocaust and Climate change deniers. [Gasp!]
Tumbleweed
28th January 2020, 03:30 AM
I don't know if the guy in this video below is right but I wonder about what he has to say. I have to give vaccines to calves to get them sold for a decent price but it seems like at times the vaccine just poisons them. Then when they get sick the big Pharma companies sell you the antidote to the vaccine they sold you. There is a disease they call Rota Corona virus that is a real calf killer that can be devastating. Interesting video to listen to and think about. He seems to know what the jews and their lackeys are up to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2215&v=CU5PtKNepsE&feature=emb _logo
Jewboo
28th January 2020, 07:51 AM
I don't know if the guy in this video below is right but I wonder about what he has to say.
JOE IMBRIANO'S Website (https://thefullertoninformer.com/)
Jewboo
28th January 2020, 10:30 AM
I'm done.
Thanks to Trumpstein we all are. Have some soup. (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1579888153783.png)
:)
midnight rambler
28th January 2020, 12:00 PM
"...wearing a quality medical mask will give you a degree of protection..."
Of course it will, but there are the naysayers going "The coronavirus is too small for a N95 mask to stop!" as if not wearing a protective respirator is the equivalent of wearing one. Maroons. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECcmQQQOj8
Jewboo
28th January 2020, 01:07 PM
The Chinese government has now shut down transportation in the huge city of Wuhan, where the supposedly deadly coronavirus first surfaced a few months ago. Where? At an open air fish and meat market. Anyone looking into contaminated flesh at the market? Dangerous lack of sanitation? They’re looking into “the virus.” Naturally. And as I keep saying in past and recent articles, we have a massive tradition of FAKE EPIDEMICS.
Back on topic.....the lads over at 4chan are considering it to possibly be a BIO-WEAPON that got loose:
Image One (usual jew traitor) (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1580240027716.png)
Image Two
(https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1580240254535.png)
4chan Thread Link (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241319578/#q241319578)
:o notice that jew media hides all this from our fellow goyim and we hear about it first at GSUS or 4chan
Amanda
28th January 2020, 02:47 PM
Yeah, I know I'm the only one here who's not buying into this (I've just seen them lie too many times about these supposed viruses).
Anyway, here's a bit more:Don’t buy the media hype over the new China virus
https://nypost.com/2020/01/23/dont-buy-the-media-hype-over-the-new-china-virus/
It’s called “drama,” which is badly needed, because there appears to be nothing very special (https://nypost.com/2020/01/23/people-are-freaking-out-that-coronavirus-outbreak-is-like-contagion/) about this outbreak of the 2019-nCoV or Wuhan *virus. It should actually be called the DvV, or Déjà vu Virus, because we have been through these hysterias before. Over and over. Heterosexual AIDS, Ebola repeatedly, the H1N1 swine flu that was actually vastly milder than the regular flu and, especially, severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in 2003.
Once you start debunking mass hysteria over outbreaks, it gets easy, because the same patterns repeat themselves.
More from Jon Rappoport on how they covered the Swine Flu hoax:
Facebook, Twitter, Google hide China-epidemic “misinformation”: Truth? Logic? Analysis? Unnecessary. Eliminate Them.
by Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/28/facebook-twitter-google-hide-china-epidemic-misinformation/
...revisit another epidemic: 2009 Swine Flu—in order to correct the record. At that time, conspirators prevented accurate information from reaching the public. Instead, lunatic ideas about the epidemic were allowed to stand. A precedent was firmly established for future reporting about “outbreaks.”
The conspirators had somehow infiltrated a news organization at high levels, and they began floating lie after lie. This was a monstrously egregious situation. The public was unaware.
I have uncovered a solidly credible witness who observed this seedy operation. She was an employee of the news organization. In fact, she was a star investigative reporter for CBS News. Her words carry weight.
Her name is Sharyl Attkisson. I interviewed her. Facebook, Google, take notice, and swiftly elevate her words to the top of your news feeds and rankings.
Q: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, [secretly] stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?
A: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story [written by Attkisson and published on the CBS News site] from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it and, in the end, no [CBS News television] broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.
And on how these cases are diagnosed:
“The Chinese virus is spreading”—deception and false news https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/27/the-chinese-virus-is-spreading-deception-and-false-news/
Most people are accepting the news that the Chinese coronavirus is spreading across China and the world. They don’t understand ground-level facts.
First of all, in every so-called epidemic, diagnoses of patients are eventually made by simple observation. The patient has typical flu symptoms? Fever, cough, fatigue, weakness, respiratory problems? He lives or works in an area where the epidemic has been reported? Boom, tell the patient he has the epidemic disease. Obviously, this is absurd. But it happens. And then you hear or read, “Today, three more people were found to be infected with the virus in (insert name of city).”
If a patient is actually tested, before a diagnosis is made, the most prevalent method is the antibody test. It’s fast. But there is a problem—a major problem. A positive test means the patient’s immune system has come in contact with the virus. Before 1984, this was generally interpreted as a good sign for the patient: his immune system responded well and defeated the virus. But then the science was turned upside down. Suddenly, a positive test meant the patient had a disease. Therefore, huge numbers of people were falsely told they were in danger. During times of hysteria, they became “new cases” of some purported epidemic. They were cited on the news to bolster the idea that the “the virus was spreading.” One more point: antibody tests are known to cross-react. This means: some irrelevant fact about the patient makes the test falsely read “positive for a virus.” He drank wine the night before the test. He has a cold. Etc.
In very few cases, a patient might be tested with a method called PCR. In simple terms, this test takes a tissue sample from the patient—a tiny, tiny piece of something that might be a virus…but it’s much too small to be observed and identified. To overcome this problem, the PCR test amplifies that tiny fragment many, many times—like blowing up a photograph. If the test overcomes several challenges and is done correctly, researchers and doctors might be able to infer that the patient has the virus. BUT the test would reveal nothing about HOW MUCH of the virus he has. And why is that important? Because two or three little particles of virus floating around in the patient’s body mean nothing. In order to cause disease, there would have to be millions and millions of a virus in the patient’s body. However, that obvious fact is ignored. A patient with a positive PCR test is added to the list of epidemic cases—and the news reports, “Today, four more infected people were found in Alaska, leading experts to state the epidemic is spreading unchecked across the world…”
As you can see, these major blunders and false interpretations will result in news about “the spreading epidemic.”
I should also mention low-level security personnel, police, and soldiers, in airports and other transportation centers, waving wands at people to see if their temperature is elevated—signifying they might be “carrying the virus.” These “tests” are about as reliable as randomly pointing to a figure in a photo of a crowd and saying, “He was the one who just robbed the bank, arrest him.”
Referring to Wuhan, called the center of the epidemic in China, photos of people jamming hospital waiting rooms are cited as “evidence” of the spreading virus and epidemic. This is preposterous. Many of these people, experiencing a few typical flu symptoms, have been brainwashed by public announcements into believing they have the “epidemic virus.” And then, Wuhan has highly dangerous levels of air pollution. Wuhan is notorious for polluting smog (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/27/what-are-the-chinese-hiding-in-wuhan/). Last summer, thousands of people in the city showed up on the streets protesting the air quality and a newly planned waste incinerator they believed would cause even more harmful smog. This pollution causes lung problems—cited as a symptom of the “coronavirus epidemic.”
Keep these issues in mind when people automatically claim “the virus and the epidemic are spreading.”
Jewboo
28th January 2020, 02:57 PM
Yeah, I know I'm the only one here who's not buying into this...Anyway, here's a bit more:
The beauty of GSUS. We don't always agree but can still post our views.
:)
monty
29th January 2020, 11:04 AM
Yeah, I know I'm the only one here who's not buying into this (I've just seen them lie too many times about these supposed viruses).
Anyway, here's a bit more:Don’t buy the media hype over the new China virus
https://nypost.com/2020/01/23/dont-buy-the-media-hype-over-the-new-china-virus/
More from Jon Rappoport on how they covered the Swine Flu hoax:
Facebook, Twitter, Google hide China-epidemic “misinformation”: Truth? Logic? Analysis? Unnecessary. Eliminate Them.
by Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/28/facebook-twitter-google-hide-china-epidemic-misinformation/
And on how these cases are diagnosed:
“The Chinese virus is spreading”—deception and false news https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/27/the-chinese-virus-is-spreading-deception-and-false-news/
I think it may be another grand hoax. I listened to John Rapaport talk about all the other swine flu, Sars, H1N1, he has investigated over the last 30 years and the similarities to this. Time will tell. In the meantime if at all possible stay out of the major population centers and airports.
Amanda
29th January 2020, 11:24 AM
I think it may be another grand hoax. I listened to John Rapaport talk about all the other swine flu, Sars, H1N1, he has investigated over the last 30 years and the similarities to this. Time will tell. In the meantime if at all possible stay out of the major population centers and airports.
Monty--where did you listen to him?? I've always wondered if he did alternative radio shows, but I've never been able to find any audios with him. I've just been reading his site for years (and learned a lot from him).
Also, just to add another perspective to this, Greg Mannarino's take on this (at least on how it's being used), is that they can/will use this as a cover story if things start collapsing, so nobody looks at what the banks have been doing. Zerohedge has been having tons of stories on this (really pushing it hard, just like rense), but on one of them that was pushing how the virus could destroy the economy, one of the commenters said this:
yeah, right...nothing to do with massive over-leveraging, stock buybacks, fed liquidity injections and a collapsing real economy they never report on.
monty
29th January 2020, 11:47 AM
Monty--where did you listen to him?? I've always wondered if he did alternative radio shows, but I've never been able to find any audios with him. I've just been reading his site for years (and learned a lot from him).
Also, just to add another perspective to this, Greg Mannarino's take on this (at least on how it's being used), is that they can/will use this as a cover story if things start collapsing, so nobody looks at what the banks have been doing. Zerohedge has been having tons of stories on this (really pushing it hard, just like rense), but on one of them that was pushing how the virus could destroy the economy, one of the commenters said this:
He was on the Richie Allen Show. John Rapoport starts at 1hr 6 minute mark
http://youtu.be/eYNf02I6lJA
,
Amanda
29th January 2020, 12:31 PM
Great thanks!!
midnight rambler
30th January 2020, 01:11 PM
WHO declares global emergency -
https://apnews.com/0f0f07b30c8cdd2b0f30c6081acc7599
Jewboo
30th January 2020, 03:23 PM
WHO declares global emergency -
https://apnews.com/0f0f07b30c8cdd2b0f30c6081acc7599
GENEVA (AP) — The World Health Organization declared the outbreak sparked by a new virus in China that has spread to more than a dozen countries as a global emergency Thursday after the number of cases spiked more than tenfold in a week.
:o
midnight rambler
30th January 2020, 03:33 PM
Just ordered a couple of these CBRN gas masks, four weeks back ordered at this time.
https://www.mirasafety.com/
Down1
30th January 2020, 05:00 PM
Can Herbal Medicines Fight Wuhan Coronavirus?
http://www.renegadetribune.com/can-herbal-medicines-fight-wuhan-coronavirus/
monty
30th January 2020, 07:45 PM
Headlines With a Voice links to a viral video with English subtitles uploaded by a Chinese journalist
http://youtu.be/jMCicE9JX7M
https://youtu.be/jMCicE9JX7M
the chinese video
http://youtu.be/7AI3R41dGnU
https://youtu.be/7AI3R41dGnU
osoab
31st January 2020, 03:09 PM
So are we going to stop getting Chinese streams of new movie releases?
Down1
31st January 2020, 03:59 PM
We have a problem even more serious than the Coronavirus and that is......
CNN Complains That Trump’s Coronavirus Task Force Lacks Diversity
https://bongino.com/not-a-joke-cnn-upset-that-trumps-coronavirus-task-force-lacks-diversity/
osoab
31st January 2020, 04:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE7Iz7HLpYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE7Iz7HLpYg
PatColo
31st January 2020, 05:09 PM
twatter gassed @zerohedge (https://twitter.com/zerohedge) today; no specific "twatter rules violation" cited, as always :rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1223394650347667464
no article up @ https://www.zerohedge.com/ atm; expect one forthcoming; it's only been 1-2 hrs
gossip saying it's coz of
Coronavirus Contains "HIV Insertions", Stoking Fears Over Artificially Created Bioweapon (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon)
"Oh my god..."
1428 (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon#comment_stream)
232469
JAN 31, 2020 5:35 PM
PatColo
31st January 2020, 05:15 PM
Corona virus detected in Santa Clara according to Santa Clara County Public Health Department.
(https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/01/31/santa-clara-coronavirus/)
"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed the man who lives somewhere in the county has the virus..."
mamboni
31st January 2020, 05:20 PM
twatter gassed @zerohedge (https://twitter.com/zerohedge) today; no specific "twatter rules violation" cited, as always :rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1223394650347667464
no article up @ https://www.zerohedge.com/ atm; expect one forthcoming; it's only been 1-2 hrs
gossip saying it's coz of
Coronavirus Contains "HIV Insertions", Stoking Fears Over Artificially Created Bioweapon (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon)
"Oh my god..."
1428 (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon#comment_stream)
232469
JAN 31, 2020 5:35 PM
Pat:
Are you saying that account got offed because it revealed the info on a recombinant corona virus? That article was posted on ZeroHedge. The group out of India detected four genes from HIV in the specific coronavirus afflicting China. One HIV glycopeptide was a perfect amino acid sequence match. I'm no molecular biologist; but AFAIK HIV genes have never been detected in coronaviruses in nature. So this appears to be de facto proof of an engineered bioweapon. Question is was it deliberately leaked or accidentally released. Either way, it appears to be designed to be highly contagious and fairly lethal. Because of the long transmissable incubation period, this engineered coronavirus could spread like wildfire worldwide as it is virtually impossible to contain spread.
PatColo
31st January 2020, 05:45 PM
^ no biologist here either but this "outbreak" stinks to high heaven!
PatColo
31st January 2020, 05:53 PM
Helen Buynitski has this 15m viddy @ her YT channel
Police State Contagion: US Plan to Use Bioweapons to Impose Martial Law One Quarantine at a Time
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZC0NOljRWQ)
1,927 views
Jan 28, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZC0NOljRWQ
also those familiar w Jon Rappoport will appreciate his recent articles
Jon Rappoport's Blog (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/)
Thank you, China, you’re wonderfulIt’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood by Jon Rappoport January 30, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) As I predicted in an article several days ago , we were on the cusp of a big THANK YOU, CHINA moment. It’s here. From tweets accompan...
Who is pushing epidemics? What are their crimes?Who is pushing the IDEA of an epidemic, and what is the payoff? by Jon Rappoport January 30, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) With my coverage of the China epidemic ( archive here ), we are seeing many new readers showing up and paying ...
The China epidemic—staging the productionby Jon Rappoport January 30, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) Continuing my series on China and the supposed coronavirus epidemic… Let’s suppose someone wanted to teach China a lesson. Perhaps a group of elite Globalists. They want to f...
The China “epidemic”: lying about virusesby Jon Rappoport January 29, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) In my ongoing series of articles ( archive here ), I’ve already established at least a dozen reasons for rejecting the coronavirus story. In particular, demanding that we bel...
China “epidemic”: the strange role of the middle classby Jon Rappoport January 29, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) Sometimes, during years of research, unusual dots pop up, and you see connections you never suspected were there. Here is a bottom line connection. When the poor and disenfra...
Facebook, Twitter, Google hide China-epidemic “misinformation”Truth? Logic? Analysis? Unnecessary. Eliminate them. by Jon Rappoport January 28, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) I picture a few wan techies gathered around a fact-checking AI robot that repeats, “Must censor…must censor…must censor…”...
China epidemic—implications for America and other countriesby Jon Rappoport January 28, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) To keep up with my new articles on the so-called “epidemic,” it really helps to read my earlier pieces ( archive here ). I don’t recapitulate all the relevant facts every tim...
“The Chinese virus is spreading”—deception and false newsby Jon Rappoport January 27, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) Most people are accepting the news that the Chinese coronavirus is spreading across China and the world. They don’t understand ground-level facts. First of all, in every so-c...
What are the Chinese hiding in Wuhan?by Jon Rappoport January 27, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) “In the previous epidemics, which turned out to be duds—West Nile, SARS, bird flu, Swine Flu, MERS, Zika, Ebola—there were people claiming the virus had been diabolically wea...
Vaccine for the China virus—the planet is the guinea pig for a vast...by Jon Rappoport January 26, 2020 (To join our email list, click here .) The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) is launching a rush program to develop a vaccine against the China coronavirus. The goal? Have a vaccine ready for human testing in...
PatColo
31st January 2020, 06:10 PM
Jon Rappoport on Richie Allen Show last Mon; this url should begin @ 1h 4m:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3874&v=eYNf02I6lJA&feature=emb_title
but start time doesn't work when I embed vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3874&v=eYNf02I6lJA&feature=emb _title
[...] Jon Rappoport is a fearless writer who has written on health matters for decades. John joins Richie to discuss Coronavirus and why he believes it is a hoax. John takes us on a journey over twenty years to reflect on other pandemics that amounted to nothing after creating a massive public scare. Who is behind these hoaxes and why? The answer is shocking. Read John at www.nomorefakenews.com (http://nomorefakenews.com)
midnight rambler
31st January 2020, 09:22 PM
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://pics.me.me/i-bet-he-mentioned-coronavirus-too-68697653.png&imgrefurl=https://me.me/i/i-bet-he-mentioned-coronavirus-too-026dbd604a1a4d0d9df3048085172af8&tbnid=Uf_PCZ3XcktwaM&vet=1&docid=_6rwRGf4LDNFJM&w=500&h=1092&q=umbrella+coronavirus+meme&hl=en-us&source=sh/x/im
BrewTech
31st January 2020, 09:41 PM
Methinks this "epidemic" will turn out to be another nothing event once it's usefulness as a global distraction has been exhausted.
mamboni
31st January 2020, 10:06 PM
Methinks this "epidemic" will turn out to be another nothing event once it's usefulness as a global distraction has been exhausted.Dr. Martenson would likely disagree!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmrm0mk5928
Horn
31st January 2020, 10:27 PM
Methinks this "epidemic" will turn out to be another nothing event once it's usefulness as a global distraction has been exhausted.
Does not look good from those Zerohedge papers I was reading on how the virus was weapon engineered to penetrate any host.
vacuum
1st February 2020, 04:39 AM
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM
Jewboo
1st February 2020, 09:20 AM
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM
Well spent 38 minutes watching this video. Systematically covered a lot of critical into via organized concise questions and direct lucid answers. Probable bio-weapon that got loose...stay six feet away from the infected...can infect the eyes not just nose and mouth so gotta wear goggles (https://www.amazon.com/OutdoorMaster-OTG-Ski-Goggles-Protection/dp/B0711V2VX6/ref=pd_cp_468_2/143-7667317-9940058?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0711V2VX6&pd_rd_r=bb3e2245-2701-4cfa-ac6d-ed96fc41198d&pd_rd_w=nd6jn&pd_rd_wg=iYb6J&pf_rd_p=592dc715-8438-4207-b7fa-4c7afdeb6112&pf_rd_r=0KSDBT6W0KP77P0H8Y30&psc=1&refRID=0KSDBT6W0KP77P0H8Y30) as well as a mask.
:o must watch video
PatColo
1st February 2020, 11:24 AM
long article, as typical of Whitney Webb's stuff; just pasting conclusion:
BATS, GENE EDITING AND BIOWEAPONS: RECENT DARPA EXPERIMENTS RAISE CONCERNS AMID CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK
(https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/)
3 COMMENTS (https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/)
30 JAN 2020
POSTED BY WHITNEY WEBB
DARPA RECENTLY SPENT MILLIONS ON RESEARCH INVOLVING BATS AND CORONAVIRUSES, AS WELL AS GENE EDITING “BIOWEAPONS” PRIOR TO THE RECENT CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK. NOW, “STRATEGIC ALLIES” OF THE AGENCY HAVE BEEN CHOSEN TO DEVELOP A GENETIC MATERIAL-BASED VACCINE TO HALT THE POTENTIAL EPIDEMIC.
[...]
CONCLUSION
Research conducted by the Pentagon, and DARPA specifically, has continually raised concerns, not just in the field of bioweapons and biotechnology, but also in the fields of nanotechnology, robotics and several others. DARPA, for instance, has been developing a series of unsettling research projects that ranges from microchips that can create and delete memories (https://singularityhub.com/2018/01/25/heres-the-tech-that-could-one-day-track-boost-or-erase-human-memory/amp/) from the human brain to voting machine software (https://singularityhub.com/2018/01/25/heres-the-tech-that-could-one-day-track-boost-or-erase-human-memory/amp/) that is rife with problems.
Now, as fear regarding the current coronavirus outbreak begins to peak, companies with direct ties to DARPA have been tasked with developing its vaccine, the long-term human and environmental impacts of which are unknown and will remain unknown by the time the vaccine is expected to go to market in a few weeks time.
Furthermore, DARPA and the Pentagon’s past history with bioweapons and their more recent experiments on genetic alteration and extinction technologies as well as bats and coronaviruses in proximity to China have been largely left out of the narrative, despite the information being publicly available. Also left out of the media narrative have been the direct ties of both the USAMRIID and DARPA-partnered Duke University to the city of Wuhan, including its Institute of Medical Virology.
Though much about the origins of the coronavirus outbreak remains unknown, the U.S. military’s ties to the aforementioned research studies and research institutions are worth detailing as such research — while justified in the name of “national security” — has the frightening potential to result in unintended, yet world-altering consequences. The lack of transparency about this research, such as DARPA’s decision to classify its controversial genetic extinction research and the technology’s use as a weapon of war, compounds these concerns. While it is important to avoid reckless speculation as much as possible, it is the opinion of this author that the information in this report is in the public interest and that readers should use this information to reach their own conclusions about the topics discussed herein.
Question Everything, Come To Your Own Conclusions
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/
(https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/)
vacuum
1st February 2020, 02:23 PM
If you are unable to buy masks:
https://i.imgur.com/O9lrZJO.jpg
midnight rambler
1st February 2020, 02:31 PM
Actually the water jugs over the head really isn't such a bad idea and shouldn't be laughed at. That's about as good as one's going to get limiting exposure to one's cranial mucus membranes short of a NBC gas mask.
Jewboo
1st February 2020, 05:01 PM
We might in other circumstances pass this off as an unfortunate coincidence but for some major circumstantial events that serve to alter our focus. One of these is the history of American universities and NGOs having come into China in recent years to conduct biological experiments that were so illegal as to leave the Chinese authorities enraged. This was particularly true when it became known that Harvard University had surreptitiously proceeded with experiments in China that had been forbidden by the authorities years earlier, where they collected many hundreds of thousands of Chinese DNA samples and then left the country.
(https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas-new-coronavirus-an-examination-of-the-facts/5701662)
The Chinese were furious to learn that Americans were collecting Chinese DNA. The government intervened and prohibited the further export of any of the data. The conclusion at the time was that the ‘research’ had been commissioned by the US military with the DNA samples destined for race-specific bio-weapons research. (https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas-new-coronavirus-an-examination-of-the-facts/5701662)
:o
PatColo
1st February 2020, 05:46 PM
Sen Tom Cotton, corona virus CTist :o
https://twitter.com/snarwani/status/1223773931024330752
midnight rambler
1st February 2020, 08:20 PM
Map of 2019-nCoV Global Cases by Johns Hopkins CSSE (each point is updated as new cases are identified) -
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
midnight rambler
1st February 2020, 10:11 PM
Model shows doubling every 6.4 days -
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-75k-infected-doubling-every-64-days-lancet-says-2020-1
Jewboo
2nd February 2020, 06:17 AM
Chink farts can kill us:
MELBOURNE : While doctors have focused on respiratory samples from pneumonia cases to identify coronavirus patients, they might have ignored a less apparent and hidden source of the spread: diarrhea. (https://www.livemint.com/news/world/coronavirus-lurking-in-feces-may-reveal-hidden-risk-of-spread-11580556507678.html)
The novel coronavirus was detected in the loose stool of the first US case — a finding that hasn’t featured among case reports from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak. However, that doesn’t surprise scientists who have studied coronaviruses, nor doctors familiar with the bug that caused SARS.
(https://www.livemint.com/news/world/coronavirus-lurking-in-feces-may-reveal-hidden-risk-of-spread-11580556507678.html)
Diarrhea occurred in about 10-20% of patients afflicted with severe acute respiratory syndrome about 17 years ago and was the source of an explosive SARS outbreak in the Amoy Gardens residential complex in Hong Kong.
(https://www.livemint.com/news/world/coronavirus-lurking-in-feces-may-reveal-hidden-risk-of-spread-11580556507678.html)
SARS and Wuhan viruses bind to the same distinctly shaped protein receptors in the body that are expressed in the lungs and intestines, making these organs the primary targets for both viruses, said Fang Li, an associate professor of veterinary and biomedical sciences at the University of Minnesota. (https://www.livemint.com/news/world/coronavirus-lurking-in-feces-may-reveal-hidden-risk-of-spread-11580556507678.html)
:o
Dachsie
2nd February 2020, 06:47 AM
We know one thing for one hundred percent, slamdunk, sure and that is...
SOMEBODY'S Lyin' to us !
midnight rambler
2nd February 2020, 10:15 AM
DIY coronavirus anti-viral face mask -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuEBexkm2V0&feature=youtu.be
PatColo
2nd February 2020, 10:55 AM
the simple twoof is, they're a light upon all nations, just like they keep trying to tell us lowly goyim! :)*#*
Netanyahu Says Israel to Begin Developing Coronavirus Vaccine (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-netanyahu-says-israel-to-begin-developing-coronavirus-vaccine-1.8478612)
Tumbleweed
2nd February 2020, 12:56 PM
First they poison you then they sell you the antidote.
woodman
2nd February 2020, 01:50 PM
the simple twoof is, they're a light upon all nations, just like they keep trying to tell us lowly goyim! :)*#*
Netanyahu Says Israel to Begin Developing Coronavirus Vaccine (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-netanyahu-says-israel-to-begin-developing-coronavirus-vaccine-1.8478612)
The bad news is: it will only work for Jews.
hoarder
2nd February 2020, 02:40 PM
The bad news is: it will only work for Jews.Bingo. The end game is that it doesn't matter whether the virus or the vaccine kills the goyim. Either one will do. If it's the virus, only Jews will have the right vaccine, if they can't come up with a virus bad enough to do the job, they'll just have to give us a vaccine that will kill us for sure.
PatColo
2nd February 2020, 03:24 PM
Bingo. The end game is that it doesn't matter whether the virus or the vaccine kills the goyim. Either one will do. If it's the virus, only Jews will have the right vaccine, if they can't come up with a virus bad enough to do the job, they'll just have to give us a vaccine that will kill us for sure.
+ their "vax" injection will properly nano-chip us, for whatever time remains b4 our properly premature deaths ^^^ Thanks Joooz! :D
Jewboo
3rd February 2020, 08:27 AM
"The highly contagious infection can spread via a simple cough, sneeze or handshake and the virus can live on inanimate objects such as door handles."
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7960423/The-Latest-Shanghai-index-drops-8-virus-outbreak-grows.html)
For free medical treatment (https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2018_48/2657756/181125-migrants-border-us-mexico-se-520p_bf6c3fd287e6f4d930f0d569f13c2bee.jpg) the Infected will soon be rushing across our Open Borders.
:rolleyes:
midnight rambler
3rd February 2020, 05:31 PM
PCR on the coronavirus-
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/02/02/coronavirus-update/
vacuum
4th February 2020, 01:29 AM
Wow...looks like China is just reporting numbers based on a simple math model. Like, with no variation even added.
https://twitter.com/evdefender/status/1223887384892313600
In other words, they aren't "fudging" the numbers, they're just reporting from a predetermined spreadsheet. And they've been doing that for weeks.
Jewboo
4th February 2020, 03:51 AM
"The highly contagious infection can spread via a simple cough, sneeze or handshake and the virus can live on inanimate objects such as door handles." (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7960423/The-Latest-Shanghai-index-drops-8-virus-outbreak-grows.html)
...the coronavirus can survive for five days maximum on smooth surfaces under suitable circumstances...That would mean that mobile phone screens, computer keyboards, faucets and other household objects may indirectly transmit the virus, experts said...
:o elevator buttons ! ! !
Over the weekend, some experts warned that the novel coronavirus could be transmitted through the digestive system as they found 2019-nCoV nucleic acids in patients' stool and rectal swabs, and health authorities had suggested the central air conditioning system be discontinued if coronavirus patients are found. The case drew attention to a case during the SARS outbreak in 2003 - In Amoy Gardens residential complex in Hong Kong, aerosolized feces spread from floor to floor through plumbing, infecting over 300 people with the virus, reports said.
Linky (https://www.zerohedge.com/health/discovery-coronavirus-doorknob-infected-patient-sparks-transmission-concerns)
midnight rambler
5th February 2020, 12:20 PM
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594
midnight rambler
5th February 2020, 05:52 PM
Watch victim sitting on stool at work keel over dead on video -
https://twitter.com/HappeningNow__/status/1224609470375956481
midnight rambler
5th February 2020, 06:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z05ZrMfKUDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb9rsKvTdFU
midnight rambler
5th February 2020, 08:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3facKsTV8y8
midnight rambler
5th February 2020, 08:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3facKsTV8y8
Note that video was posted a week ago, it's a safe bet the situation is even more dire. That's a very brave young man.
Jewboo
6th February 2020, 10:48 AM
Wuhan (11 mil), Huanggang (7.5 mil), and Ezhou (1.1 mil) are sealed shut and some services suspended.
All outbound flights cancelled, movie theatres shut down, central market shut down, public transport (trains, buses) temporarily shut down.
https://news.yahoo.com/china-warns-virus-could-mutate-spread-death-toll-030352863.html
Some say that the coronavirus may have a 2% kill rate (same as Spanish Flu which killed ~50 mil)
This is way more serious then reported. Probable bio-weapon that got loose. Believe your own eyes. (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1581010943190.webm)
:o
midnight rambler
6th February 2020, 08:18 PM
More video of people just dropping dead -
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yuAG7tjHDJ8I/
midnight rambler
6th February 2020, 08:57 PM
Apocalyptic scenes from China, this shit appears to be trending toward a Biblical scale -
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PA4FvQtWvwsR/
osoab
7th February 2020, 02:39 AM
Apocalyptic scenes from China, this shit appears to be trending toward a Biblical scale -
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PA4FvQtWvwsR/
A few things.
-I think the Chinese need some birds shot and some Beretta boom sticks.
-I hope the dudes passing out masks are virus free (no gloves)
-That dude didn't kill the other dude. He walked away.
-I don't know if those were mosquitoes.
-Tampon mask might become a trend. The Chinese are WOKE!
osoab
7th February 2020, 03:20 AM
Did anyone see this vid on jewtube with the gunshots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydmpWLjtHG8&feature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydmpWLjtHG8&feature=emb_logo
This bitchute vid https://www.bitchute.com/video/yuAG7tjHDJ8I/ at 8:55 shows the 3 dudes locking and loading. First they are walking and then the cut where they are loading up.
The youtube video had this part reversed and then massive gunfire. Like firing squad going down the line. The youtube vid then cut to people wailing and a dead guy on the street gunfire in the background.
We'll, that wailing portion was in bitchute vid starting at 5:14. And no gunfire in the background.
Things are being sliced and diced people.
osoab
7th February 2020, 03:35 AM
I know someone that is on a 3 month cruise now. Set sail two weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1225655406686437376
BREAKING: Guam denies entry to Holland America's Westerdam cruise ship, citing fears of coronavirus
woodman
7th February 2020, 05:06 AM
I know someone that is on a 3 month cruise now. Set sail two weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1225655406686437376
BREAKING: Guam denies entry to Holland America's Westerdam cruise ship, citing fears of coronavirus
Interesting. It is a shame that we don't have any sources that we can trust who might be any kind of authority on the issue of the virility of the coronavirus. Really.....who can you trust for objective information?
There is a lot of fearmongering but this may very well be the stick that breaks the camel's back and sends the world into a 'correction' both marketwise and in other aspects as things are connected and tend to snowball. Factories may soon experience downtime, waiting for shipments that have been backlogged due to events. Has there been discussion along these lines? I tend to miss a lot of posts.
midnight rambler
7th February 2020, 05:12 AM
Interesting. It is a shame that we don't have any sources that we can trust who might be any kind of authority on the issue of the virility of the coronavirus. Really.....who can you trust for objective information?
There is a lot of fearmongering but this may very well be the stick that breaks the camel's back and sends the world into a 'correction' both marketwise and in other aspects as things are connected and tend to snowball. Factories may soon experience downtime, waiting for shipments that have been backlogged due to events. Has there been discussion along these lines? I tend to miss a lot of posts.
Surely we will begin feeling the supply chain snafus in the USA in 90-120 days, and depending upon the severity I would expect the repercussions to last for years...seeing as how the vast majority of our 'stuff' is Hecho en Chino. Think about just the auto parts sector. Holy shit.
osoab
7th February 2020, 05:14 AM
Interesting. It is a shame that we don't have any sources that we can trust who might be any kind of authority on the issue of the virility of the coronavirus. Really.....who can you trust for objective information?
There is a lot of fearmongering but this may very well be the stick that breaks the camel's back and sends the world into a 'correction' both marketwise and in other aspects as things are connected and tend to snowball. Factories may soon experience downtime, waiting for shipments that have been backlogged due to events. Has there been discussion along these lines? I tend to miss a lot of posts.
Apple Ipods might be delayed. Fiat-Chrysler threw out a warning. .gov says not to worry.
That boat sails from Singapore to Shanghi.
https://www.cruisemapper.com/ships/ms-Westerdam-710
ms Westerdam current cruise is 30 days, one-way from Singapore to Shanghai. The itinerary starts on 16 Jan, 2020 and ends on 15 Feb, 2020
Time frame of departure gives way to all sorts of ideas of where patient zero was from? Incubating Chinese sailing back from vacation? Read some stuff that early December was the start time.
osoab
7th February 2020, 05:15 AM
Surely we will begin feeling the supply chain snafus in the USA in 90-120 days, and depending upon the severity I would expect the repercussions to last for years...seeing as how the vast majority of our 'stuff' is Hecho en Chino. Think about just the auto parts sector. Holy shit.
Don't worry Elon will save us all. /s
Dachsie
7th February 2020, 06:39 AM
Woodman said
" It is a shame that we don't have any sources that we can trust who might be any kind of authority on the issue of the virility of the coronavirus."
Yes, that is a shame. Unfortunately that has been the story of everything in our world from the beginning. It has to do with the Fall and individuals not being in obedience to and acting solely for the glory of the One True God, without fear but trusting in His Providence. I like to take things back to the very root of the problem.
I notice how all the MSM type sources of info on the virus as well as mostly all of the alternative and right wing sources of info all seem motivated by money income for producers of reportage and clicks/likes/subscribes.
Many of us have a high level of critical thinking ability and tend to ask a lot of good questions and are able to sort out all the available info and come to the best assessment possible, and we get by with the help of free-speech forums such as this.
Was thinking lately about the ramifications of the stark crackdown against First Amendment in the USA and came to realize that without the First Amendment as originally conceived in the U S Constitution, there is no more objective scholarly research and quality information from the world of academia. And that reality overflows into industry and big business enterprises and BigPharma and all commerce. People are so afraid to lose their employment so they do not seek and tell the whole truth. They compromise and sell out because of fear.
Of course, this gradual destruction of the First Amendment shows itself in "the rule of law" first, so seeking justice in courts of law and the judiciary is a wipe-out.
What I find very enlightening these days is how the Left or "liberal" or "Democrat" factions are becoming more dictatorial and totalitarian by the second, to wit, California's mandating of vaccines and proposed legislation to mandate voting and how that part of the political spectrum does not care a bit about the poor and disabled and vulnerable nor do their moneyed backers care about the sovereignty of the USA and the survival of our Republic. To an increasing extent, the Right and the Republicans are showing themselves to be moving in the same direction.
I pray for a greater and greater love of the truth, and the One Who is Truth.
woodman
7th February 2020, 07:18 AM
What I find very enlightening these days is how the Left or "liberal" or "Democrat" factions are becoming more dictatorial and totalitarian by the second,
Their teeth are beginning to show. They sure as hell aren't liberal. 'Batshit' is more descriptive, because 'liberal' is a misnomer.
Jewboo
7th February 2020, 08:10 AM
This is way more serious then reported. Probable bio-weapon that got loose. Believe your own eyes. (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1581010943190.webm)
:o
You guys need to wake up. This thread should be busy. Half of China is literally on lock down (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/more-400-million-people-lockdown-guangzhou-joins-quarantine). Zerohedge already warns that our chink "Supply Chain" is broke (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supply-chain-shock-heres-most-exposed-sp500-industries-china). Most of our manufactured stuff now comes from China. The masks I bought last year are now totally sold out worldwide. Yesterday I ordered THIS (https://www.amazon.com/Uvex-Stealth-Goggles-Anti-Fog-Anti-Scratch/dp/B003U9VE94/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=safety+lab+goggles&qid=1581090263&sr=8-6). I already have 300 gloves. A few months ago I bought what I thought I lacked for a long while from China. My current thinking:
1) TPTB know this is a bio-weapon that got loose. Its already spreading on several remote Cruise Ships. Its already in 29 countries worldwide. USA hospitals already have been shit for years and can't handle any of this surge either. NYC subways will soon be closed...would YOU get on a subway or bus now? Where's our Doctor Mamboni?
2) Prepare for a Recession/Depression and probable monetary deflation. USA has no factories anymore. Buy more beans and bullets and band-aids not gold or silver. Homeless druggies are already shitting in the streets of Los Angeles. San Francisco, and Seattle.
:(?? wake up guys
osoab
7th February 2020, 04:54 PM
https://i.redd.it/88osl54prjf41.png
midnight rambler
7th February 2020, 09:17 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MgkmOVMrL0hB/
midnight rambler
7th February 2020, 09:24 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IPoUvSw6gGgD/
midnight rambler
7th February 2020, 09:37 PM
Seriously badass virus looking more and more like a bio-engineered weapon. The dead bodies captured on video in this mashup can only be a fraction of the dead, imagine the true body count. Holy cow. And locking people up in their buildings, wow.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3CqvE8gA0NS0/
vacuum
7th February 2020, 09:40 PM
Surely we will begin feeling the supply chain snafus in the USA in 90-120 days, and depending upon the severity I would expect the repercussions to last for years...seeing as how the vast majority of our 'stuff' is Hecho en Chino. Think about just the auto parts sector. Holy shit.
This is exactly correct. Factories are on pause right now. No big deal for just a few weeks. If this goes on for another month or more however, there will be a lot of problems.
PatColo
7th February 2020, 10:12 PM
Sean/SGT Report w Sarah Westall, 47 mins
CORONAVIRIUS: ENGINEERED PANDEMIC -- Sarah Westall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GevcUNJNrDI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GevcUNJNrDI
PatColo
9th February 2020, 01:41 PM
goog whistleblower Zach Vorhies & Maryam Henein ask ppl on pedowood walk of shame; too bad they're in cahoots w infowhores & Zach plugs their store for collodial silver at the end
5m: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZezw1n3bo&feature=emb_title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZezw1n3bo&feature=emb_title
midnight rambler
9th February 2020, 07:26 PM
This exiled Chinese fellow asserts 1.5M infected and 50K dead -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WyfVnL5_AM&feature=youtu.be
midnight rambler
9th February 2020, 07:44 PM
This exiled Chinese fellow asserts 1.5M infected and 50K dead -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WyfVnL5_AM&feature=youtu.be
What he's saying about 'quarantined' infected makes sense in that the authorities are merely warehousing the infected until they die (then the bodies sent to the crematory) or miraculously recover without any medical intervention whatsoever - as evidenced by all the photos released of nothing but beds set out in very large spaces.
midnight rambler
9th February 2020, 07:55 PM
Locking people up to die in their homes -
https://gnews.org/108878/
https://twitter.com/BrutumF/status/1226392124922290176
midnight rambler
9th February 2020, 09:33 PM
WHO: Don't Panic!!!
From video: 50% of transmission is during asymptomatic phase, and indications are one means of transmission is via aerosol. Yikes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Ho96UKfYA
Jewboo
10th February 2020, 12:38 PM
CORONAVIRIUS: ENGINEERED PANDEMIC -- Sarah Westall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GevcUNJNrDI)
Read this from 2007 that proves the Wuhan Virology Lab has been working on these weaponized cooties for many years:
State key Laboratory of Virology, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, Hubei 430071, China.
Phone: (86-27)-87197240. Fax: (86-27)-87197240. E-mail: (https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899.full)zlshi{at}wh.iov.cn (https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899.full)
:o
Wuhan is Ground Zero
PatColo
10th February 2020, 12:59 PM
not sure who tweets for the Unz.com twatter acct but...
https://twitter.com/UnzReview/status/1226971652581470209
The Unz Review
@UnzReview (https://twitter.com/UnzReview)
Why is our Ruling Class suppressing the truth? Their desire to punish whites is certainly one reason. But the deeper motive: a fanatical determination to maintain the myth that “race is a social construct.”#CoronaVirus (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaVirus?src=hashtag_click)#CoronaOutbreak (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaOutbreak?src=hashtag_click)
STILL No Non-Chinese Deaths from Coronavirus, But the WASHINGTON POST Wants You to Rat Out Your Neighbors Anyway (https://www.unz.com/article/still-no-non-chinese-deaths-from-coronavirus-but-the-washington-post-wants-you-to-rat-out-your-neighbors-anyway/)
LANCE WELTON (https://www.unz.com/author/lance-welton/) • FEBRUARY 8, 2020 • 1,300 WORDS • 125 COMMENTS (https://www.unz.com/article/still-no-non-chinese-deaths-from-coronavirus-but-the-washington-post-wants-you-to-rat-out-your-neighbors-anyway/#comments)
PatColo
10th February 2020, 02:56 PM
aaaah, relief at last!! --H H--
Free porn offered to quarantined coronavirus cruise passengers (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/free-porn-quarantined-coronavirus-cruise)
(https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/free-porn-quarantined-coronavirus-cruise)
Adult website CamSoda's vice president says his company is trying to ease boredom for impacted passengers
madfranks
10th February 2020, 03:05 PM
Read this from 2007 that proves the Wuhan Virology Lab has been working on these weaponized cooties for many years:
State key Laboratory of Virology, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, Hubei 430071, China.
Phone: (86-27)-87197240. Fax: (86-27)-87197240. E-mail: (https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899.full)zlshi{at}wh.iov.cn (https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899.full)
:o
Wuhan is Ground Zero
Holy shit!!
And yes, there's no doubt this is being under-reported. Those in charge will do whatever they can to slow down or stop mass panic.
Down1
10th February 2020, 03:59 PM
Months Before Coronavirus Rocked the World, Cambridge University Warned of Race-Specific Bioweapons
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/months-before-coronavirus-rocked-the-world-cambridge-university-warned-of-race-specific-bioweapons/
Jewboo
10th February 2020, 05:17 PM
State key Laboratory of Virology, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, Hubei 430071, China.
Phone: (86-27)-87197240. Fax: (86-27)-87197240. E-mail: zlshi{at}wh.iov.cn (https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899.full)
Holy shit!!
And yes, there's no doubt this is being under-reported. Those in charge will do whatever they can to slow down or stop mass panic.
It's all there even we can understand those details from 2007.
midnight rambler
10th February 2020, 06:30 PM
Incubation period ranges up to 24 days -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNArvGCBgJ4
PatColo
11th February 2020, 07:55 AM
Yoichi Shimatsu on last night's Rense. Plus Niman in hr 3 but Rense has had him on for hour 3 every night recently; I never listen... never cared for his perma disease booga booga... unpleasant voice, to boot! :o Maybe not quite as bad as the late Dr. Patti Doyle, at least... :)
Download (https://ln2.sync.com/dl/8432b8840/w9khzs73-chcacxvc-yuek7atb-sc2d3pep) Hour 1 - Yoichi Shimatsu (https://rense.com//general96/a-christmas-eve-surprise-just-flew-over.php) - Tracking The Wuhan Coronavirus
Download (https://ln2.sync.com/dl/1fe419840/dt83bf69-7zt4kpdy-ji5zte6d-6tiiys84) Hour 3 - Dr. Henry Niman PhD (http://recombinomics.co/) - Explosive New Developments In nCoV Pandemic
remember we used to bang on the "dead/murdered microbiologists..." phenom since GIM1; story's mostly forgotten nowdaze.
List of over 100 Dead Microbiologists - Prepare For Change (https://prepareforchange.net/2016/02/20/list-of-over-100-dead-microbiologists/)
https://prepareforchange.net/2016/02/20/list-of-over-100-dead-microbiologists/ (https://prepareforchange.net/2016/02/20/list-of-over-100-dead-microbiologists/)
List of over 100 Dead Microbiologists. February 22, 2016 February 20, ... List of Dead Microbiologists January 11, 2014 ... Investigators are looking for a connection between the murder of this leading bio weapons researcher and the hepatitis outbreak in Tver, Russia.
The mysterious deaths of top microbiologists since 9/11 (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/deadbiologists.html)
www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/deadbiologists.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/deadbiologists.html)
As many as 14 world-class microbiologists died between 9/11/1 and 3/2/2, and on 6/24/2 yet another microbiologist was added to the list. Still the US Government acted as if nothing was amiss, as silent on the question of dead microbiologists as they are on the question of the Israeli spies and their connection to 9-11.
Dachsie
11th February 2020, 08:02 AM
"perma disease "
Please define
PatColo
11th February 2020, 08:46 AM
^ just meant, whatever the global deadly contagious disease du jour is (oft officially originating in Africa...), Niman & formerly Rense's also weekly guest Patti Doyle, were there puffing up the 'threat' like the sky is falling, we're all in imminent/personal danger in USA/West, another case was just detected in Peoria/wherever, booga booga... never amounts to anything...
Dachsie
11th February 2020, 08:57 AM
^ just meant, whatever the global deadly contagious disease du jour is (oft officially originating in Africa...), Niman & formerly Rense's also weekly guest Patti Doyle, were there puffing up the 'threat' like the sky is falling, we're all in imminent/personal danger in USA/West, another case was just detected in Peoria/wherever, booga booga... never amounts to anything...
"puffing up the 'threat' like the sky is falling, we're all in imminent/personal danger in USA/West"
The puffing up is what gets money for the show content creator and the guests, not necessarily the object of the puffing up, that is... disease.
The desired outcome, that is ...what sells, of the puffing up is fear and confusion and desire for a "solution."
we're all in imminent/personal danger but the danger comes from the puffer uppers with "truth" for sale.
PatColo
11th February 2020, 09:27 AM
^ yes the 'selling stuff via fear-porn' MO is self evident. Rense & AJ fell out at least a decade ago now, but they still do both share the fear porn card as their core business models.
Steal
11th February 2020, 11:02 AM
Thought this disease was not really affecting children. Kind of disturbing, then again, anything with deceased kids is disturbing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLbYiEXUCpU
osoab
11th February 2020, 04:06 PM
Thought this disease was not really affecting children. Kind of disturbing, then again, anything with deceased kids is disturbing.
Wow!
First post in 2 revolutions. You decide whether it's the Earth or the Sun. :D
It's good to see your still around. Hope all is well with you and yours.
osoab
11th February 2020, 04:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLbYiEXUCpU
Why didn't they use a gurnery to move the loaded bag.
What are the chances the "virus" wasn't the culprit for the kids?
midnight rambler
11th February 2020, 05:00 PM
There are supposedly 29 funeral homes in Wuhan. This one processed 127 dead in one day recently, so that easily means thousands of dead each day. 50k+ dead is not out of the question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KFxCqV1fPQ&feature=youtu.be&list=PLCk54fsbGh6Wb6BO IClI90V3jF-ce6QeS
midnight rambler
11th February 2020, 08:00 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7986553/Does-satellite-image-scale-Chinas-coronavirus-cremations.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7986553/Does-satellite-image-scale-Chinas-coronavirus-cremations.html)
midnight rambler
11th February 2020, 08:09 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/tom-cotton-demands-beijing-prove-ncov-isnt-bioweapon-another-conspiracy-theory-goes
midnight rambler
11th February 2020, 08:38 PM
Now 174 confirmed novel coronavirus cases on the Corona Princess cruise ship -
http://recombinomics.co/topic/4741-confirmed-ncov-cases-on-diamond-princess-increase-to-174/?tab=comments#comment-16039
midnight rambler
11th February 2020, 09:03 PM
More evidence coronavirus now designated by WHO as COVID-19 is airborne -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrqRAtViUZw
PatColo
11th February 2020, 09:18 PM
Adam Green yest, 1h 45m, but CJB gets straight into an overview of his theory at the open. I just started watching; don't know if I'll survive the whole thing; will skip forward if/when it gets zzzzzz.
Coronavirus Rising | KMN LIVE feat. Christopher Jon Bjerknes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSJXjfhooUU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSJXjfhooUU
madfranks
12th February 2020, 02:08 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7986553/Does-satellite-image-scale-Chinas-coronavirus-cremations.html
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7986553/Does-satellite-image-scale-Chinas-coronavirus-cremations.html)https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population
Holy shite!
midnight rambler
12th February 2020, 07:42 PM
CDC helpless against COVID-19, we're on our own -
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/all-disasters-are-not-created-equally-cdc-powerless-halting-spread-covid-19
monty
13th February 2020, 04:11 AM
CDC helpless against COVID-19, we're on our own -
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/all-disasters-are-not-created-equally-cdc-powerless-halting-spread-covid-19
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/12/cdc-announces-test-kits-for-coronavirus-dont-work/
Dachsie
13th February 2020, 05:11 AM
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/12/cdc-announces-test-kits-for-coronavirus-dont-work/
"A great deal of time is wasted performing these acts that could be better used and focused on solving many of the real and pressing problems that face America. I contend this pandering is a major disservice to Americans in that it fosters the impression that government will be there for you if you ever get into a pickle or jam. While reassuring to many the false illusion of a competent and effective government ready to come to your aid comes at the cost of raising unrealistic expectations. I suspect that with the formation of the massive Homeland Security Agency this may be a case of reassuring the masses that their tax money has not been wasted."
"All Disasters Are Not Created Equally" - CDC Powerless In Halting Spread Of Covid-19
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by Tyler Durden
Wed, 02/12/2020 - 10:45
Authored by Bruce Wilds via Advancing Time blog,
Yes, the CDC is an incompetent and corrupt and hyper-politicized "scientific" and "medical" federal agency. It has been at least since the "Dept. of Homeland Security" was created -- created in November 2002 in response to 9/11 to "ensure a homeland that is safe, secure, and resilient against terrorism and other hazards."
I wrote a little essay back around 2002 and won a nice new video camera for my effort. As I recall I focused on the "NAZI-like" nature of that new agency and dubbed it the Department of Heimat Polizei . I could see then that 9-11 was the beginning of a neocon effort to destroy the Constitutional Republic of the USA under the guise of "fighting terrorism" derived from the fake terrorism orchestrated and perpetrated by the neocons in the 9-11 false event.
Urge to go on a rant rampage today is high so will administer coffee STAT.
monty
13th February 2020, 06:26 AM
"A great deal of time is wasted performing these acts that could be better used and focused on solving many of the real and pressing problems that face America. I contend this pandering is a major disservice to Americans in that it fosters the impression that government will be there for you if you ever get into a pickle or jam. While reassuring to many the false illusion of a competent and effective government ready to come to your aid comes at the cost of raising unrealistic expectations. I suspect that with the formation of the massive Homeland Security Agency this may be a case of reassuring the masses that their tax money has not been wasted."
"All Disasters Are Not Created Equally" - CDC Powerless In Halting Spread Of Covid-19
Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
by Tyler Durden
Wed, 02/12/2020 - 10:45
Authored by Bruce Wilds via Advancing Time blog,
Yes, the CDC is an incompetent and corrupt and hyper-politicized "scientific" and "medical" federal agency. It has been at least since the "Dept. of Homeland Security" was created -- created in November 2002 in response to 9/11 to "ensure a homeland that is safe, secure, and resilient against terrorism and other hazards."
I wrote a little essay back around 2002 and won a nice new video camera for my effort. As I recall I focused on the "NAZI-like" nature of that new agency and dubbed it the Department of Heimat Polizei . I could see then that 9-11 was the beginning of a neocon effort to destroy the Constitutional Republic of the USA under the guise of "fighting terrorism" derived from the fake terrorism orchestrated and perpetrated by the neocons in the 9-11 false event.
Urge to go on a rant rampage today is high so will administer coffee STAT.
The Founders knew government would be inefficient. They intended the People govern themselves through their State Militia service. All these functions ofbthe CDC, Homeland Security, BATF, BLM, FBI & etc. could and should be effectively performed by the citizens as part of their Militia duty. But people prefer to let the government take care of them rather than do their civic duty. As a result we have the inefficient bloated police state government we are faced with today.
Dachsie
13th February 2020, 06:32 AM
The Founders knew government would be inefficient. They intended the People govern themselves through their State Militia service. All these functions ofbthe CDC, Homeland Security, BATF, BLM, FBI & etc. could and should be effectively performed by the citizens as part of their Militia duty. But people prefer to let the government take care of them rather than do their civic duty. As a result we have the inefficient bloated police state government we are faced with today.
True militia efforts are rare these days. Looks like we each individually need to just fortify our homes and selves with our freedom sticks.
midnight rambler
13th February 2020, 05:37 PM
218 now infected on the Corona Princess -
http://recombinomics.co/topic/4751-alarming-frequency-of-44-covid-positives-from-221-tested-on-diamond-princess-raises-pandemic-concerns/
midnight rambler
13th February 2020, 08:57 PM
CDC Director: COVID-19 "is probably here with us (indefinitely)"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/health/coronavirus-cdc-robert-redfield-gupta-intv/index.html
midnight rambler
13th February 2020, 09:27 PM
WHO advisor: COVID-19 may infect over 5 billion people -
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-admission-who-advisor-says-coronavirus-may-infect-over-5-billion-people
Coronaviruses can live on a surface at ambient temperature for up to nine days -
https://www.sciencealert.com/study-shows-just-how-long-coronaviruses-can-stick-around-on-a-surface
The Pentagram gets ready -
https://sputniknews.com/military/202002131078308284-us-military-issues-service-wide-directives-to-prepare-for-coronavirus-pandemic/
CDC sends out defective test kits -
https://www.physiciansweekly.com/some-u-s-states-launch/
Patients may be asymptomatic AND contagious for up to three weeks -
https://www.theepochtimes.com/coronavirus-patients-may-not-show-symptoms-for-over-3-weeks-study-says_3233985.html
midnight rambler
13th February 2020, 09:33 PM
Despite the extreme measures at lockdown in Wuhan the R0 was only reduced to between 2 and 3. To stop the pandemic the R0 must be reduced to below 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01L-SktgzXc
midnight rambler
14th February 2020, 11:06 AM
More doom p0rn -
https://www.mediaite.com/news/harvard-professor-sounds-alarm-on-likely-coronavirus-pandemic-40-to-70-of-world-could-be-infected-this-year/
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/02/13/coronavirus-outbreak-exposes-chinas-monopoly-on-u-s-drug-medical-supplies/ (https://www.mediaite.com/news/harvard-professor-sounds-alarm-on-likely-coronavirus-pandemic-40-to-70-of-world-could-be-infected-this-year/)
midnight rambler
14th February 2020, 06:28 PM
This is what a black swan meets gray rhino looks like -
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/its-coming-cdc-director-warns-coronavirus-become-widespread-throughout-united-states
osoab
14th February 2020, 06:28 PM
More doom p0rn -
https://www.mediaite.com/news/harvard-professor-sounds-alarm-on-likely-coronavirus-pandemic-40-to-70-of-world-could-be-infected-this-year/
(https://www.mediaite.com/news/harvard-professor-sounds-alarm-on-likely-coronavirus-pandemic-40-to-70-of-world-could-be-infected-this-year/)https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/02/13/coronavirus-outbreak-exposes-chinas-monopoly-on-u-s-drug-medical-supplies/
From the Breitbart link. Not a good picture here.
Mansour noted (https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/02/13/coronavirus-outbreak-exposes-chinas-monopoly-on-u-s-drug-medical-supplies/) how the coronavirus outbreak in China has exposed America’s dangerous dependence on Chinese production of pharmaceutical and medical supplies, including an estimated 97 percent of all antibiotics and 80 percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients needed for domestic drug production.
Gibson added, “Say there’s a coronavirus outbreak in the United States, God forbid, and a lot of people end up in hospitals with severe cases. The medicines needed to care for them if they can’t breathe and are on a ventilator — fentanyl and propofol — [are made in China]. We depend on China for the raw materials. If they go into shock, the epinephrine and dopamine we need to care for them, we depend on China. If they have bacterial infections, we depend on China for the antibiotics.”
Gibson recalled, “I documented China’s penicillin cartel. There’s an incredible story of how we lost our penicillin manufacturing plants. These are huge industrial facilities, big fermentation plants, and China came in and knocked them out in the U.S. and even India by dumping it on the global market at really cheap prices — keeping it low for several years — and then the price goes back up again.”
Gibson replied, “There was country-of-origin legislation introduced in Congress around 2008 that would require companies to state on their packages where their product is made, and it was killed immediately. So I asked someone in the industry, someone who worked there for more than 30 years, ‘So, what’s going on here?’ and this person said, ‘Well, the industry thought it probably wouldn’t be good for business if their customers knew where their medicines were coming from.'”
midnight rambler
15th February 2020, 08:15 PM
If Singapore is unable to contain it we'll all screwed.
https://twitter.com/JanJekielek/status/1228505416608423936
midnight rambler
15th February 2020, 08:34 PM
China's economy is disintegrating -
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-disintegrating-steel-demand-property-sales-traffic-all-approaching-zero
Neuro
16th February 2020, 01:59 AM
China's economy is disintegrating -
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-disintegrating-steel-demand-property-sales-traffic-all-approaching-zero
Worlds production happen in China. Interesting... What tends to happen if you have a lot of cash from more than a decade of monetization but nothing to buy for your cash? And some of those things are actually needed to maintain life in reasonable comfort?
hoarder
16th February 2020, 06:56 AM
This came up on a GIM2 thread also.
Mansour noted how the coronavirus outbreak in China has exposed America’s dangerous dependence on Chinese production of pharmaceutical and medical supplies, including an estimated 97 percent of all antibiotics and 80 percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients needed for domestic drug production.
Since pharmaceutical products generally do almost as much harm as they do good, there are going to be severe repercussions for big pharma as many people who are forced to do without will discover that they would have been better without it all along.
woodman
16th February 2020, 07:17 AM
This came up on a GIM2 thread also.
Since pharmaceutical products generally do almost as much harm as they do good, there are going to be severe repercussions for big pharma as many people who are forced to do without will discover that they would have been better without it all along.
Most pharma meds are indeed trash but anti-biotics do have their place. Perhaps colloidal silver will fit the bill, but perhaps not. Anti-biotics have been the ingredient that has helped balloon the world's population to where it is today. Places, such as Africa and India with their filth and squalor, would certainly have kept to traditional population densities without the addition of anti-biotics. Say what you will and there is plenty bad about them, but I am certain they have saved my life in the past.
As for neuro's post above: There are certainly many conflating forces that will lead to inflation but so many other currents that will lead to deflation also. It is very difficult to see where exactly this is heading, financially. The forecast does call for pain, no matter what else. If a lot of old people, like most of us here, die off, then there will be a glut of housing opening up. It will be difficult to get many of the unimportant things that we all feel we need so bad and even more difficult to get many of the things we really do need. Then again, if older people are removed, the possessions are left for the survivors.
If there is a lot of cash chasing fewer products, then there will be inflation. Without the supplies feeding production, jobs also will be sidelined, leading to interrupted cash flow into pockets that can ill afford it because as we all know, it costs money to pay the bills and the bills don't stop. So this leads to deflation. Whee! What a ride! We will no doubt, come through this stronger.
woodman
16th February 2020, 07:23 AM
Another thing to note is that cash requires an arms lenth transaction. I know that I will not want to get up close and personal with strangers while a plague is raging, so this will no doubt affect, even if minimally, the use of cash and bolster other means, such as crypto and credit to pay for daily transactions.
I am certain of nothing though. But the Chins seem to be taking this seriously if we are to believe they have almost half a billion people on some kind of restrictions to mobility.
Dachsie
16th February 2020, 07:25 AM
This came up on a GIM2 thread also.
Since pharmaceutical products generally do almost as much harm as they do good, there are going to be severe repercussions for big pharma as many people who are forced to do without will discover that they would have been better without it all along.
ALMOST as much harm as they do good
I wish it would completely turn out they way you surmise but I do not think it will.
While I agree that a lot of meds are useless and we could do just as well without themThe ALMOST factor -- SOME of those pharmaceuticals made in China are very important for sustaining the lives of many people and the only people who will be able to purchase those products from new USA production factories are very wealthy people who can pay for the greatly increased prices over the low prices afforded by Chinese slave labor so the Phara companies may be able to maintain their profit levels while the poor people have to do without and maybe die.
The economy collapse of China sooner or later, probably sooner, will cause businesses and jobs in the USA to close down and the products, all products including pharmaceuticals, will skyrocket.
If the moneyed oligarchs that own and operate the USA would have devoted their efforts over the years to preserving USA sovereignty and jobs and production factories here in our once great country we would be in not so much of a crisis right now. Federalist Paper Number 10 tells how the USA with its many rivers for transport and its good land and waters and decent climate were a blessing that would help us to grow strong and independent.
Instead the evil oligarchs whom some call our wonderful capable and philanthropic capitalists got increasingly greedy and cared less and less about the strength and protection of our country that could only be sustained by keeping our industries and jobs in this country and cared less and less about the USA family being able to do well on a living wage for just the one parent wage earner. so the oligarchs' send our whole system to Hell in a handbasket.
The people who own BigPharma companies have never been concerned about producing their products in the USA but rather were concerned only about their highest profit share and maintaining their stock price. People who live in Communist China will not only lose their jobs but no one there cares whether they die from starvation or caronavirus.
The end result we will see for our USA capitalist system will not look much different from the Communist China system outcome.
woodman
16th February 2020, 07:27 AM
I have to admit, I know very little about China or it's financial system. Do the people live in state run housing and must they pay monthly rent? If they have monthly bills for all the things we have to pay for here, then how are they possibly going to make ends meet when they have not been to the factories and put in hours to get a pay check?
Horn
16th February 2020, 07:39 AM
The timing is impecable if real at all. How the msm gives it little if much coverage can only suggest they're incubaring it to make it a killer baby for later.
midnight rambler
16th February 2020, 08:47 AM
Hubei doctors now warning it's highly possible to be infected a second time by COVID-19, additionally tests are giving false negatives -
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/hubei-doctors-warn-even-deadlier-coronavirus-reinfection-causing-sudden-heart-attacks
midnight rambler
16th February 2020, 10:38 AM
China's economy is disintegrating -
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-disintegrating-steel-demand-property-sales-traffic-all-approaching-zero
China is at a standstill, at least 760 million under residential lockdown -
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/business/china-coronavirus-lockdown.html
Jewboo
16th February 2020, 10:40 AM
Most pharma meds are indeed trash but anti-biotics do have their place. Perhaps colloidal silver will fit the bill, but perhaps not. Anti-biotics have been the ingredient that has helped balloon the world's population to where it is today. Places, such as Africa and India with their filth and squalor, would certainly have kept to traditional population densities without the addition of anti-biotics. Say what you will and there is plenty bad about them, but I am certain they have saved my life in the past.
As for neuro's post above: There are certainly many conflating forces that will lead to inflation but so many other currents that will lead to deflation also. It is very difficult to see where exactly this is heading, financially. The forecast does call for pain, no matter what else. If a lot of old people, like most of us here, die off, then there will be a glut of housing opening up. It will be difficult to get many of the unimportant things that we all feel we need so bad and even more difficult to get many of the things we really do need. Then again, if older people are removed, the possessions are left for the survivors.
If there is a lot of cash chasing fewer products, then there will be inflation. Without the supplies feeding production, jobs also will be sidelined, leading to interrupted cash flow into pockets that can ill afford it because as we all know, it costs money to pay the bills and the bills don't stop. So this leads to deflation. Whee! What a ride! We will no doubt, come through this stronger.
Us childless geezers are ironically more content now in Clown World then those of you with children and grandchildren. Just in my lifetime alone it is glaring that humans=pathogens. Humans have just in these past 70 years systematically converted this once-pristine paradise planet into a now totally-polluted toxic planetary turd. All water must now be filtered before drinking. The air we breathe in most towns and all cities is absolutely polluted poison. The best thing that could happen to planet Earth is the complete extermination of ALL humans. All 7.8 billion of us pathogens. Meanwhile back on topic:
1) Coronavirus and common cold/flu also enter through our eyes just not nose and mouth. These masks only prevent the wearer from spreading the infection. These masks do not protect the wearer from eye infection. The government of Singapore officially declares: "Masks only prevent the wearer from spreading the infection. Do not wear a mask unless you are infected!" This policy alone would prevent the now-worldwide mask shortage. Personal protection must include a good mask and proper goggles that seal around the edge (https://www.amazon.com/Uvex-Stealth-Goggles-Anti-Fog-Anti-Scratch/dp/B003U9VE94/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=lab+goggles&qid=1581876013&sr=8-5#HLCXComparisonWidget_feature_div).
2) Antibiotics are absolutely critical for us geezers. Most other prescription meds are poison.
3) Because of (1) above, China and already thirty plus other countries are experiencing pandemics. Results will be (duh) simply logical: mass illness...eventually nobody goes to work...shortages of food and all essentials. Ponce's ultimate wet dream: China isn't "going back to work" in a week or two to restart Earth's Supply Chain. USA can't now bring back all its factories it shipped to China either. Forget about quaint GIM1 monetary "inflation vs deflation" notions. Our paper dollar bills will be massively contagious from snot virus cooties (https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3050868/fresh-cash-old-china-central-bank-branch-destroy-banknotes) and people won't handle cash anymore. Neuro currently now has more immediate issues like flying in and out of cootie-infected Turkish and European airports.
Stockpiling/social isolation is the most logical cope of Clown World today...thus my avatar.
(http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=15964&dateline=1570043494)
(http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=15964&dateline=1570043494)
The Government will give every household a pack of four masks. Mask collection will start at designated RC Centres and CCs from 2pm on Saturday, 1 Feb 2020. As of 9 Feb 2020, the deadline for the mask colection will be extended to 29 Feb 2020. From 10 February 2020 to 29 February 2020, local households that were unable to collect their masks earlier can collect them at their constituency’s community clubs.
Each local household is entitled to collect a pack of 4 masks. Bring your NRIC for verification. You can locate your local Community club at www.maskgowhere.gov.sg (https://maskgowhere.gov.sg).
Please remember that the masks are for those who are sick. There is no need to wear a mask if you are well.
To learn how and where to use a mask, read more here (https://www.gov.sg/article/masking-up-how-and-when-you-should-do-it).
midnight rambler
16th February 2020, 11:05 AM
Do not wear a mask unless you are infected!
Well how exactly is one supposed to know whether one is infected when:
Some people only experience mild symptoms such as a sore throat
Some people are asymptomatic while they're carrying/spreading
The tests are giving false negatives, in one case the first four out of five tests were negative, fifth was positive
The test kits are not readily available to the average city dweller
midnight rambler
16th February 2020, 03:31 PM
Most stupid advice ever.
Do not wear a mask unless you are infected!
Many causes contribute to this undercounting.
First, the prevailing diagnostic test for COVID-19 may be only 30 to 40 percent accurate. Some carriers who took the diagnostic test were falsely cleared and erroneously excluded from the official tally.
Second, the diagnostic test itself is scarce. Tests are rationed for the most obviously symptomatic patients. But carriers can be asymptomatic. And they can be contagious before they even show signs of infection.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/lew-olowski-coronavirus-worse-than-reported-heres-how-china-is-making-the-situation-worse
midnight rambler
16th February 2020, 04:48 PM
All of Hubei province in full residential lockdown. Hubei is a major industrial province, literally boatloads of our 'necessities' originate from Hubei province. This is mega and makes S-11 look like a picnic on a sunny spring day.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3050879/no-mahjong-no-card-games-hubei-province-full-lockdown-china
woodman
16th February 2020, 04:56 PM
Just in my lifetime alone it is glaring that humans=pathogens. Humans have just in these past 70 years systematically converted this once-pristine paradise planet into a now totally-polluted toxic planetary turd. All water must now be filtered before drinking. The air we breathe in most towns and all cities is absolutely polluted poison. The best thing that could happen to planet Earth is the complete extermination of ALL humans. All 7.8 billion of us pathogens. Meanwhile back on topic:
Stockpiling/social isolation is the most logical cope of Clown World today...thus my avatar.
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hoarder
16th February 2020, 06:43 PM
1) Coronavirus and common cold/flu also enter through our eyes just not nose and mouth. These masks only prevent the wearer from spreading the infection. These masks do not protect the wearer from eye infection. The government of Singapore officially declares: "Masks only prevent the wearer from spreading the infection. Do not wear a mask unless you are infected!" Just because the flu can be spread thru your eye doesn't mean that it is just as likely to be caught thru eyes as mouth/nose. Your eyes do not inhale so I would presume nose/mouth to be the more likely way to catch it and I would certainly wear a mask to protect myself if it ever gets to this part of the country.
Jewboo
16th February 2020, 07:03 PM
Your eyes do not inhale so I would presume nose/mouth to be the more likely way to catch it and I would certainly wear a mask to protect myself if it ever gets to this part of the country.
People cough and sneeze and those virus cooties obviously enter our eyes. There is a logical reason why THESE GOOGLES (https://www.amazon.com/Uvex-Stealth-Goggles-Anti-Fog-Anti-Scratch/dp/B003U9VE94/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=lab+goggles&qid=1581876013&sr=8-5#HLCXComparisonWidget_feature_div) with sealed padded edges are sold out along with the masks worldwide. Mine (most popular) arrived from Amazon on Monday and they are all now out-of-stock. BTW...my $1.80 3M Valved masks are being gouged for $9 each now on eBay...
:rolleyes: "presume"
woodman
16th February 2020, 07:12 PM
Looks like The Simpsons was onto it years ago. Check out the virus map similarities.
https://twitter.com/o_rips/status/1228892621843550208
https://twitter.com/JoeLetsPlay/status/1229027366774722560/photo/1
Neuro
16th February 2020, 07:22 PM
I don’t give a fuck about wearing a mask. I’m in Bangkok. We will all die anyway. The notion that you can protect yourself against a virus by staying away from it is silly. Go down and live the rest of your lives in your root cellar bolted from the inside and you may be successful... Otherwise the facts are that at this stage millions have been in contact with the infection, tens of thousands have experienced symptoms severe enough to be registered as infected and a couple of thousands have died. That’s it, why focus on the bad end of the spectrum of this. The worry this is creating worldwide so far has probably created more deaths in heart attacks than virus deaths. The economic meltdown the fear will create will cause even more deaths.
Jewboo
16th February 2020, 07:28 PM
I don’t give a fuck! I’m in Bangkok. We will all die anyway. (https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/coronavirus-thailand-reports-one-new-case-a-medical-personnel-brings-total-to-34)
How does it taste Neuro? (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/15O49ddxyBw/hqdefault.jpg)
:)
Neuro
16th February 2020, 07:45 PM
How does it taste Neuro? (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/15O49ddxyBw/hqdefault.jpg)
:)
Mmm delicious, but the live batbabies are even better!
Jewboo
16th February 2020, 07:56 PM
...The notion that you can protect yourself against a virus by staying away from it is silly....millions have been in contact with the infection, tens of thousands... registered as infected and a couple of thousands have died. That’s it, why focus on the bad end of the spectrum of this.
Bangkok? You seem to be intentionally engaging in Pandemic Tourism.
:D for the excitement?
Neuro
16th February 2020, 08:08 PM
Bangkok? You seem to be intentionally engaging in Pandemic Tourism.
:D for the excitement?
You are right! Pandemic tourism... Not the excitement though! I’m here to get infected... I figured that with this years infection I have a 90% chance of surviving, the mutated Corona virus 2021 which will spread to everyone not bolted into their root cellar will kill everyone that didn’t have this years infection. So I am here volunteering at the infectious clinic shaking hands rubbing eyes and lift the breathing mask whenever a patient coughs or sneezes.
Gesundheit!
Jewboo
16th February 2020, 08:13 PM
You are right! Pandemic tourism... Not the excitement though! I’m here to get infected... I figured that with this years infection I have a 90% chance of surviving, the mutated Corona virus 2021 which will spread to everyone not bolted into their root cellar will kill everyone that didn’t have this years infection. So I am here volunteering at the infectious clinic shaking hands rubbing eyes and lift the breathing mask whenever a patient coughs or sneezes.
Gesundheit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxqGQeTuQgA
I've read good things about Singapore. Visit there too. Don't forget your tour HAT. (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61-C2nfPXHL._UL1200_.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61-C2nfPXHL._UL1200_.jpg)
:)
Neuro
16th February 2020, 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxqGQeTuQgA
I've read good things about Singapore. Visit there too. Don't forget your tour HAT. (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61-C2nfPXHL._UL1200_.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61-C2nfPXHL._UL1200_.jpg)
:)
I am at the international airport right now soaking in the atmosphere. Going to Cambodia later no cases reported there but it doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Wish me luck! ;D
Jewboo
17th February 2020, 03:16 AM
Wish me luck!
GOOD LUCK! (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZLUrI2-zL._UL1000_.jpg)
monty
17th February 2020, 05:13 AM
Jon Rappoport’s Monday email
CDC begins testing Americans for the coronavirus---but how?
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As my readers know, I've been presenting evidence AGAINST the idea that the China "epidemic" is caused by a new coronavirus.
Of course, the World Health Organization and the US Centers for Disease Control are relentlessly pushing the idea that: this is a spreading epidemic, and it is caused by COV-19, a new human coronavirus.
Now, the US Centers for Disease Control is rolling out a program to test Americans (e.g., travelers who have been to China). As time passes, the program will likely pull larger numbers of Americans into that net.
The CDC program immediately raises two problems: why bother testing for a virus if it isn't really causing human disease; and what kind of test is being done?
In this article, I'm focusing on the type of test, and whether it's accurate, even if you assume the coronavirus is causing disease.
Reading through CDC literature, I believe the two most prevalent US testing methods are: antibody, and PCR.
Antibody tests are notorious for cross-reactions. This means factors in no way relevant to a given virus can make the test read positive. In that case, the patient would be falsely told he "has the coronavirus." But it gets worse. Traditionally, antibody tests reading positive were taken as a good sign for the patient: his immune system had contacted a germ and defeated it. Then, starting in 1984, the science was turned upside down: a positive test was, astoundingly, taken to mean the patient was ill or would soon become ill.
The PCR test (which requires excellent technicians who will not make any number of possible mistakes) takes a tissue sample from a patient which might contain a tiny virus particle(s) much too small to be observed---and blows it up many times, so it can be seen. However, the test says nothing reliable about HOW MUCH virus is in the patient's body. Why is that important? Because millions and millions of replicating virus in the body are necessary to even begin talking about actual illness. A positive PCR test, nevertheless, will be taken to mean the patient "has the epidemic disease." ---An even deeper issue: where is the PRIOR PROOF that the PCR is testing for a virus that actually causes disease?
The prospect of these two tests being done on Americans is not comforting, to say the least. People will be roped into believing they are "epidemic cases," and therefore need to be isolated, and treated with highly toxic antiviral drugs.
In the event they become ill, from the drugs, they'll be told "the coronavirus is doing the damage." In some cases, this will result in even further dosing with the same drugs, at higher levels---a disaster.
A very small percentage of doctors are aware of the profound shortcomings of these two diagnostic tests. Most of them will shrug off their doubts and perform the tests anyway, because refusal would endanger their careers and medical licenses.
This is the sordid drama now unfolding in the American landscape.
It's not just America. The same tests are being done all over the world.
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Amanda
17th February 2020, 05:20 AM
Okay, the most interesting thing on this thread is the talk about Neuro's travels...
Hey Neuro--In your travels over there, do you happen to know if those people are aware of the (((problem)))??
Coronavirus: run, here come the experimental drugs By Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/16/coronavirus-run-here-come-the-experimental-drugs/ (This is how they really get you IMO)
As I’ve shown in recent articles (archive here (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/category/sars/)), the virus hunters have fallen far short of proving a coronavirus is causing this “outbreak.” But here come the antiviral drugs.
They’re ordinarily used for other diseases (malaria, HIV) or, in one case, no disease yet (unapproved, unlicensed). But it’s time for “heroic measures.” A better term would be “reckless experimentation.”
Public health officials are expressing a mixture of hope and…vampire-ish worry that the epidemic may not last long enough to properly test the efficacy of the drugs.[...]
This is what I’m sitting here picturing: A person in Wuhan, who is having respiratory problems, owing to the unprecedented mixture of toxic pollutants in the air of the city, enters a clinic. He is given a chest CT Scan. He’s told he has a lung infection—pneumonia. Because a CT Scan is now absurdly sufficient for a diagnosis of “epidemic coronavirus,” he is given that label. NO test for the purported coronavirus is done. The person is shunted into a treatment room, and a doctor tells him his condition is quite serious, and he will be treated with a drug: chloroquine.
Go back and read the list of adverse effects again.
Suppose this patient tells his doctor he has a relative who lives out in the country, where the air is much better, and he wants to stay with her.
The doctor will, of course, tell the patient this is not possible. The city is locked down. If the patient left Wuhan, he could “spread the virus to others.”
He will be given the drug. What about informed consent? Will the doctor read the patient the complete list of adverse effects? Are you kidding? Wouldn’t that be “counter-productive?”
Mustn’t interrupt the “research” of pharmaceutical companies.
We can only hope and pray the “epidemic” is SAID TO LAST long enough so these benevolent corporations can complete their testing. What else is a pool of human guinea pigs for?
And worry not, the pill kings have their bases covered. When “test subjects” become sicker or die, the kings can simply say, “The coronavirus was responsible.”
It all works out for the best, doesn’t it?
CDC begins testing Americans for the coronavirus—but how? By Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/17/cdc-begins-testing-americans-for-the-coronavirus-but-how/
The prospect of these two tests being done on Americans is not comforting, to say the least. People will be roped into believing they are “epidemic cases,” and therefore need to be isolated, and treated with highly toxic antiviral drugs (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/16/coronavirus-run-here-come-the-experimental-drugs/).
In the event they become ill, from the drugs, they’ll be told “the coronavirus is doing the damage.” In some cases, this will result in even further dosing with the same drugs, at higher levels—a disaster.
A very small percentage of doctors are aware of the profound shortcomings of these two diagnostic tests. Most of them will shrug off their doubts and perform the tests anyway, because refusal would endanger their careers and medical licenses.
This is the sordid drama now unfolding in the American landscape.
It’s not just America. The same tests are being done all over the world.
woodman
17th February 2020, 05:41 AM
I am at the international airport right now soaking in the atmosphere. Going to Cambodia later no cases reported there but it doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Wish me luck! ;D
Enjoy yourself Neuro. It seems you have the traveling bone. Oh to bask in a warm ocean breeze and drink cold beer on a white beach and watch the pretty oriental lasses........
It dipped to zero here last night.
Neuro
17th February 2020, 07:33 AM
Okay, the most interesting thing on this thread is the talk about Neuro's travels...
Hey Neuro--In your travels over there, do you happen to know if those people are aware of the (((problem)))??
I suspect they have a greater idea about the (((problem))) than most westerners, because there is less public consequences speaking your mind re you know who, on the other hand they wouldn’t in general have much idea what goes on in Europe and Middle East... I have only been for 4 days in the region though and before this I was here in 1997 last time.
If the question was re the little virus not the big parasite. I would say that I have seen as many foreigners wearing face mask on the streets of Bangkok as Thai people, most are wearing the type that offers little to no protection. Definitely more people are facemaskers at airports rather than on the streets.
Amanda
17th February 2020, 07:44 AM
I suspect they have a greater idea about the (((problem))) than most westerners, because there is less public consequences speaking your mind re you know who, on the other hand they wouldn’t in general have much idea what goes on in Europe and Middle East... I have only been for 4 days in the region though and before this I was here in 1997 last time.
If the question was re the little virus not the big parasite. I would say that I have seen as many foreigners wearing face mask on the streets of Bangkok as Thai people, most are wearing the type that offers little to no protection. Definitely more people are facemaskers at airports rather than on the streets.
Thanks for this. Very interesting--also they probably aren't bombarded with the constant zio-propaganda (of jews as victims) like we are here.
I think talk of your travels is the most interesting thing on this thread--would love to hear more (I've never been to Asia). Did you have to get shots before you went? What about anti-malarials?? Years ago, a friend told me that she went to Bali when she was in college and had to take Lariam (anti-malarial), which made her feel like she was "going crazy"--sadly, the effects of the drug continued even when she stopped taking it, and she was later diagnosed as bi-polar and was given psychiatric drugs to take for forever (she never had any emotional problems prior to Lariam)
Neuro
17th February 2020, 08:22 AM
Thanks for this. Very interesting--also they probably aren't bombarded with the constant zio-propaganda (of jews as victims) like we are here.
I think talk of your travels is the most interesting thing on this thread--would love to hear more (I've never been to Asia). Did you have to get shots before you went? What about anti-malarials?? Years ago, a friend told me that she went to Bali when she was in college and had to take Lariam (anti-malarial), which made her feel like she was "going crazy"--sadly, the effects of the drug continued even when she stopped taking it, and she was later diagnosed as bi-polar and was given psychiatric drugs to take for forever (she never had any emotional problems prior to Lariam)
I don’t think anyone “needs” to take jabs or malaria prophylaxis before going here. Probably greatest risk is getting hepatitis A which I had in ‘95. Never any problem after that. Most people who had malaria will never have any recurrences either though it is a possibility. Many of the “cures and preventions” are on the whole much worse for the group that takes them than the effects of the actual diseases that they are supposed to prevent considering the low number Actually getting them in a comparable group... The pharmaceutical industry earns their money on keeping people in eternal fear though, and then they earn money on treating the “side effects” of those “treatments”.
For instance if you inject a vaccine containing mercury or aluminum (which almost all do) and you get a Central Nervous System inflammation, this is not a “side effect”, it is a direct well known effect of the poison. If you happen to be on the side of the bell curve where you get a stronger than most people immune reaction, to the point where you get clinical significant symptoms, a chronic damage to your nervous system or death, then they call it an “unintended side effect”. It is not true it is unintentional though, they know it will happen in a certain number of people in a group, they just don’t know who. And the scary thing is that Drs are taught that vaccines are SO safe and important, that they ignore warning signs that a patient may have a problem receiving a vaccine. Like an ongoing infection, previous reaction to vaccine, siblings and relatives that also had severe health issues following vaccination. All supported by fake science from big Pharma.
Amanda
17th February 2020, 08:36 AM
I don’t think anyone “needs” to take jabs or malaria prophylaxis before going here. Probably greatest risk is getting hepatitis A which I had in ‘95. Never any problem after that. Most people who had malaria will never have any recurrences either though it is a possibility. Many of the “cures and preventions” are on the whole much worse for the group that takes them than the effects of the actual diseases that they are supposed to prevent considering the low number Actually getting them in a comparable group... The pharmaceutical industry earns their money on keeping people in eternal fear though, and then they earn money on treating the “side effects” of those “treatments”.
For instance if you inject a vaccine containing mercury or aluminum (which almost all do) and you get a Central Nervous System inflammation, this is not a “side effect”, it is a direct well known effect of the poison. If you happen to be on the side of the bell curve where you get a stronger than most people immune reaction, to the point where you get clinical significant symptoms, a chronic damage to your nervous system or death, then they call it an “unintended side effect”. It is not true it is unintentional though, they know it will happen in a certain number of people in a group, they just don’t know who. And the scary thing is that Drs are taught that vaccines are SO safe and important, that they ignore warning signs that a patient may have a problem receiving a vaccine. Like an ongoing infection, previous reaction to vaccine, siblings and relatives that also had severe health issues following vaccination. All supported by fake science from big Pharma.
Okay, thanks for all of this--for some reason, I was under the mistaken impression that people had to get shots before going to South East Asia--my mistake. Good to know.
As for the vaccines--agree with everything you said. I never get them--I don't think I've had any since I was a kid, except for one time when I got bullied into a flu shot at my job (made me sick, so never again).
Yes, I've also heard that doctors are basically brainwashed about the vaccines too. Years ago, I listened to a lecture by Dr. Suzanne Humphries, and that's what she said. Her story is that she was a mainstream doctor, a hospital Nephrologist, but when a few too many of her patients suddenly came down with kidney failure (!!!!!) after getting the flu shot, she started doing research into vaccines--she said doctors were basically brainwashed that "vaccines are good, just give them," but they are never taught the science behind them or how they are made. Once she started looking into them, she left her job, and started speaking out and lecturing (she calls BS on everything medicine said about the polio virus and polio vaccine--she says, and has data to back herself up, that the real cause of the illness was DDT poisoning).
Dachsie
17th February 2020, 09:10 AM
Neuro said...
“I’m here to get infected... I figured that with this years infection I have a 90% chance of surviving, the mutated Corona virus 2021 which will spread to everyone not bolted into their root cellar will kill everyone that didn’t have this years infection.”
I appreciate Neuro’s dry and cynical sense of humor, or at least that is how, on one level, Dachsie perceives this posting of Neuro, but that perception of Dachsie does not raise this to the level of warranting one of Dachsie’s official Thanks.
Dachsie perceives that Neuro is choosing not to tell us the REAL REASON he has chosen to tell us about his travels to Bangkok and environs.
Dachsie can interpret Neuro’s reason for not telling us the real reason for his travels can be interpreted in many ways.
Maybe Neuro has strong sincerely held religious beliefs in the “this year’s virus infection Hypothesis”
Maybe Neuro is a self hater and nihilistic at heart.
Maybe Neuro has a death wish.
Maybe Neuro is suicidal and non compos mentis.
Maybe Neuro is not traveling at all.
P.S.
I officially thanked Monty for his sharing of re-posting some of Jon Rappoport’s “facts” related to various aspects of this Coronavirus story, and did so because of Dachsie’s perception of Monty’s history of sincerity in seeking TRUTH, not only “facts.”
Dachsie became familiar with Jon Rappaport’s work many years ago when he first came on the scene. Dachsie was at first impressed by his work but then became not impressed, and in fact now suspicious of his work. Jon Rappaport is a very intelligent person who communicates what appear to be many solid facts.
You can only come close to the TRUTH when you seek and obtain facts and do the seeking honestly without fear or ulterior agendas doing so in the highest professional way.
Actual TRUTH is the sincerely held religious belief in the One Who is Truth.
Jewboo
17th February 2020, 10:13 AM
Dachsie can interpret Neuro’s reason for not telling us the real reason for his travels can be interpreted in many ways.
Maybe Neuro has strong sincerely held religious beliefs in the “this year’s virus infection Hypothesis”
Maybe Neuro is a self hater and nihilistic at heart.
Maybe Neuro has a death wish.
Maybe Neuro is suicidal and non compos mentis.
Maybe Neuro is not traveling at all.
Actual TRUTH is the sincerely held religious belief in the One Who is Truth.
Dachsie (https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ov9jTEmdTUcXuPxYc/source.gif) refers to herself in the third person and is apparently implying that our Neuro is "maybe" engaging in Asian Sex Tourism?
:) fess up Neuro
midnight rambler
17th February 2020, 10:22 AM
Dachsie (https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ov9jTEmdTUcXuPxYc/source.gif) refers to herself in the third person and is apparently implying that our Neuro is "maybe" engaging in Asian Sex Tourism?
:) fess uo Neuro
I understand Neuro to be happily married with kiddos.
And if Neuro likes to indulge in Thailand's #1 tourist draw then that's on him and no one else...however it is just advised to stay away from the *really* beautiful Thai girls 'cause those weren't born girls. lol
Dachsie
17th February 2020, 10:38 AM
I understand Neuro to be happily married with kiddos.
And if Neuro likes to indulge in Thailand's #1 tourist draw then that's on him and no one else...however it is just advised to stay away from the *really* beautiful Thai girls 'cause those weren't born girls. lol
There are probably several logical reasons Dachsie refers to herself in the third person sometimes, but here I did so for the reason of making it clear that it is Dachsie who is responding to this entire thread because this thread is a thread that contains many different posters.
Keep in mind that Dachsie always has A reason for every post she makes, and every reason has as its main component, the truth, and clarity and keeping things straight as to whom is saying what, certainly is a strong support of truth.
osoab
17th February 2020, 02:32 PM
I am at the international airport right now soaking in the atmosphere. Going to Cambodia later no cases reported there but it doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Wish me luck! ;D
I would avoid cruise ships. Have fun in your travels.
midnight rambler
17th February 2020, 02:58 PM
Back on topic -
Research paper states R0: 4.7-6.6, holy shiite -
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/research-paperthe-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-is-highly-contagious-and-more-infectious-than-initially-estimated-r0-4-7-6-6/
midnight rambler
17th February 2020, 08:38 PM
Holy cow, check out how the ChiComs are sealing people off in their homes. How are they supposed to get food?? ??? Note the nice late model cars parked outside these homes, obviously this neighborhood is comprised of middle class people
https://twitter.com/EuropeanUnionC/status/1229374938013822976
Horn
17th February 2020, 09:37 PM
Holy cow, check out how the ChiComs are sealing people off in their homes. How are they supposed to get food?? ??? Note the nice late model cars parked outside these homes, obviously this neighborhood is comprised of middle class people
https://twitter.com/EuropeanUnionC/status/1229374938013822976
They're planning to pass over with a cargo helicopter and large microwave device later to see if they'll popout of there like Jiffy-Pop.
Amanda
18th February 2020, 07:19 AM
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/18/how-are-viruses-discovered-and-identified-in-the-first-place/
How are viruses discovered and identified in the first place? by Jon Rappoport (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/author/jonrappoport/)
The earthshaking Etienne De Harven interview by Celia Farber
February 18, 2020
The question I’ve been asking since 1987—
If the experts are going to claim a particular virus causes a particular disease—how do they know that virus exists in the first place?
For example, the supposedly new coronavirus in China. For example, Ebola. For example, HIV. For example, the coronavirus supposedly causing SARS (2003). How do researchers know these viruses exist?
“Well, of course they know. They must.”
That is not a satisfactory answer—even though most people would offer it.
The question can become very interesting, when you stop and consider researchers working away in biowar labs fiddling with viruses. How do they know they’re tweaking viruses that actually exist?
On a more mundane frontier, when scientists tell us they’re rushing to develop a vaccine against a virus that is harming the population, how do they know that virus exists to begin with?
I came to this question when I was researching HIV in 1987. I began to think about it seriously in 1990. During all these years, I’ve reached out to independent researchers, and I’ve tried to stitch together their answers. I can’t say it’s been a smooth trip.
But I have found some answers; and I have certainly found some fake mainstream assertions, which glitter like baubles on plastic branches of 99-cent store Xmas trees.
Here are a few clues. You need to take a tissue sample from a live human being. You need to filter that sample correctly so you arrive at a much smaller sample you believe might contain a virus. You need to put a drop of that sample under an electron microscope and observe what looks like a virus.
How much virus? How many identical particles of virus? Opinions differ on this. It could be one definite virus, one particle. It could be many, many identical particles.
Sidebar: If you’re trying to prove this virus is actually causing DISEASE in a person, you have to go further. You have to show the very same virus is active and replicating at a very high rate in the person’s body, and his immune system isn’t defeating it. Beyond noticing the patient is sick, how do you test for all THAT? I’m still looking for a definitive technical answer—if there is one.
All right, let’s’ get back to the electron microscope. Let’s say you’ve observed many identical particles of what looks like a virus in the electron microscope photograph, called an EM. You can then say, “Found it.” But you need to be sure. You need to figure out that this virus isn’t just something that ordinarily lives in the human body like a couch potato and does nothing—a passive endogenous virus. No. You want to show this virus comes from the outside as an invader—an exogenous virus. And how do you perfectly make that differentiation every time? Another question that might have no precise formula as an answer.
Big question: CAN WE BE SURE ALL VIRUSES THAT ARE SAID TO EXIST AND SAID TO CAUSE EPIDEMICS ARE ACTUALLY FOUND AND OBSERVED AND IDENTIFIED ON ELECTRON MICROSCOPE PHOTOGRAPHS? CAN WE AT LEAST SAY THAT?
No.
In which case, the researchers have been, at least some of the time, up the creek without a paddle. They’ve jumped the gun. They’ve bolted out of the starting gate too soon. They’ve laid their money down on a horse that may not even be in the race. They’ve written a check no one can cash. They’re talking about lockdowns and quarantines without having proved their favorite virus of the moment exists. Sure, people on the back end will make big money from these unwarranted presumptions, but money is not science. It might control science, but it ISN’T science.
All right. I’ve now set the stage for an excerpt from an interview, a profound interview with a late mainstream master who, in the face of fake science, suddenly was characterized as a rebel, Etienne De Harven. The interview was conducted several years ago by the brilliant reporter, Celia Farber. You can find the whole interview here (https://www.thetruthbarrier.com/2013/06/20/can-electron-microscopy-resolve-the-hiv-battle-an-exclusive-interview-with-em-pioneer-dr-etienne-de-harven/). I strongly suggest you read it sixteen times. Yes, it gets technical. You’ll also notice names of elite scientists you haven’t run across. Learn the meaning of the words you’ve never seen before. Dig in. This isn’t television-type brush-off conversation. This isn’t a YouTube throwaway.
I have another reason for exposing readers to this interview—it’s what a conversation about serious scientific issues looks like…this is what trying to bridge the gap between researchers, honest reporters, and the public looks like. There should be hundreds and thousands of such print-interviews taking place, laid before readers. They can handle it. Dumbing down people is partly an illusion: they can wake up. They WILL wake up if they’re sufficiently interested.
Etienne De Harven’s background: president of the Electron Microscopy Society of America; researcher, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center; Cornell professor of cell biology; professor of pathology, University of Toronto; recognized pioneer in the field of electron microscopy.
The interview focuses on HIV; whether it was ever found and isolated. The implications and questions spread out to any and all viruses.
DE HARVEN: Unacceptably frustrated by the total lack of success in all attempts to demonstrate virus particles in human cancer by EM, the “impresarios” of the cancer/virus “dream” (Gallo, Fauci, and others) totally engaged in the molecular approach.
Consequently, they invented molecular markers to compensate for the missing viral particles…This would have been acceptable if the specificity of these new molecular markers would have been clearly established. Unfortunately, this was not the case. The most misleading molecular marker was probably the first one, i.e. the enzyme [called] reverse transcriptase (RT). Following Temin and Baltimore 1970 papers in “Science”, the RT enzymatic activity has been, most abusively, used as a specific retroviral marker. Both Temin and Baltimore demonstrated RT activity in samples of supposedly “purified” retrovirus.
Embarrassingly, they both omitted to verify the “purity” of their samples by EM. Some of their samples were simply purchased from a commercial company… True, the label on the vials read “pure retrovirus”… However, it was known that these commercial “pure retrovirus” were heavily contaminated by cellular debris!
And since it is also known that all cells contain RT (see Varmus), cellular debris are most likely carrying similar RT enzymes.
Temin and Baltimore did not, therefore, prove that RT is a specific molecular marker for retroviruses. It would have been so simple to check, by EM, the degree of “purity” of the samples they used. This would have, most probably, shown important cell debris contamination, and would have obliged Temin and Baltimore to be much more cautious in the interpretation of their results. In 1975, the members of the Nobel Committee, most regrettably, failed to scrutinize this “purity” problem…
In 1983, at Pasteur Institute in Paris, reliance on the RT marker was a key element in the claimed “isolation” of a new retrovirus [HIV]. Still, Montagnier himself recognized “We did not purify”… He dangerously omitted to consider the misleading interference of cell debris, just as Temin and Baltimore did in 1970.
But a paper on the discovery of a new retrovirus looks much better if it contains at least… one EM picture! So, members of Montagnier’s team spent hours at the TEM [transmission electron microscope], looking at their mixed cell cultures, and they found the virus!
See Fig. 2 in their “historic” 1983 “Science” paper! It is, by the way, a good quality EM picture. It shows unquestionable retroviral particles, budding at the surface of a cell. But the legend of this Fig. 2 states that this cell is a cord blood lymphocyte. Indeed, cord blood lymphocytes were admixed to these complex cell cultures (why?)
Montagnier and his co-workers should have known that human embryonic tissues, and the placenta in particular, are very rich in endogenous retroviruses (HERVs), and that cord blood lymphocytes should therefore be expected to carry the same endogenous retroviruses (under the TEM, endogenous and exogenous viruses, looking identical, cannot be distinguished.)
The budding of these particles has perhaps been stimulated by some of the growth factors also present in these cell cultures. An essential control would have been to repeat the experiment using lymphocytes from the peripheral blood instead of from cord blood. This control is unfortunately missing.
In short, I would frankly state that the Pasteur 1983 paper (whose 30th anniversary has just been celebrated in a “grand messe” of official HIV retro-virology!) contributed very little in AIDS research because its conclusion (i.e. “the isolation of a new retrovirus”) is based on 1) the use of a non specific RT molecular marker, and 2) is falsely supported by EM pictures of, most probably, endogenous human retroviruses.
More details and appropriate references on this analysis can be found in my 2010 paper published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons [— “Human Endogenous Retroviruses and AIDS Research: Confusion, Consensus, or Science?”] (jpands.org/vol15no3/deharven.pdf (https://www.jpands.org/vol15no3/deharven.pdf)).
CELIA FARBER: When antibody and VL [viral load] tests became widespread as diagnostic tools for “HIV infection” over the ensuing decades, what happened with EM inside of HIV science and literature? It is my understanding that nobody has ever found HIV in human blood, on EM. Is this an accurate way to say it?
DE HARVEN: In my views, Western Blot [antibody] tests lost all credibility after the publication of Eleni Papadopulos’s et al. (1993) paper, and antibody tests (“Elisa”) [lost credibility] after Christine Johnson’s report (1996). The notion of a “Viral load” (VL), however, brought a new parameter in AIDS diagnosis (Ho,1996). It called attention to the actual number of HIV particles supposedly present in the blood plasma of AIDS patients, PCR technologies [tests] being presumed to offer a way to quantify that number.
If such a viremia (i.e. presence of virus particles in the blood) is indeed present in AIDS patients, it reminisces the retroviral viremia well known in leukemic mice. In such case, retroviral particles should be readily demonstrable, by TEM, of appropriately prepared patient plasma samples. Unfortunately, it has never been possible to demonstrate by TEM one single retroviral particle in the blood plasma of any AIDS patient, even if one selects patients presenting with a so-called “high viral load.”
I was apparently the first researcher to make that statement, during the opening session of President T. Mbeki’s major AIDS conference, in Pretoria, SA, in May 2000. My statement to that effect has never been refuted.
CELIA FARBER: How come?
DE HARVEN: That question must be answered because “something” is measured by PCR technologies in the blood of many AIDS patients. Actually, what is being measured is definitely not the number of retroviral particles (phantom-like, i.e. EM invisible!). In fact, what is being PCR identified, amplified, and supposedly quantified is the number of genomic nucleotide sequences that are extremely similar to sequences known to be part of the retroviral genome. Most regrettably, these sequences were misinterpreted as an indication as a certain number of … HIV particles! This did a lot to consolidate the quasi-religious dogma of HIV as the cause of AIDS, a dogma that has been sharply criticized, a few years ago, by David Rasnick who wrote, authoritatively, about “The AIDS Blunder”…
This interpretation would have been acceptable only if retroviral particles would have been readily demonstrated, by EM, in the blood plasma of these patients; but, since this is not the case, another explanation for the presence of these nucleotide sequences has to be founded.
I presented at the RA conference in Oakland, CA, in 2009, and further developed in my 2010 JAPS paper such a much needed explanation for the presence of these retroviral-like nucleotide sequences. My explanation is based on the well known, variable amounts of circulating DNA in the blood of severely ill patients, and on the fact that we all carry [irrelevant] retroviral-like sequences in our DNA, as endogenous, defective retroviruses, i.e. HERVs (HERVs, for “Human endogenous retroviruses”) (See “Virus in all of us”, R. Lower at al., 1996 PNAS paper).
No surprise, therefore, that these nucleotide sequences are recognized by PCR [tests] in the blood of many AIDS patients, who are indeed severely ill. As already demonstrated in 2008 in Robin Weiss laboratory, HERVs can interfere as confounding factors in the search for novel retrovirus in chronic human diseases…
CELIA FARBER: …Paint a picture for us. The story of the [HIV] virus, the “new deadly virus,” what happens first: What steps did they [—] Montagnier, on one hand, Gallo on the other [—] take to “find” the new entity? Then once they ‘found’ it, what shape was it in? It was not an entity, a thing, with a body, right? It was not coherent. Can we say that? So it lived where? It was seen only through the technologies developed to find it, Elisa, WB [both are antibody tests]? Later PCR/VL [tests]? But what happened back THEN when they tried to see it on EM? Why didn’t everybody look for it on EM? Too expensive?
DE HARVEN: No, EM is not cheap but not that expensive! And its cost has certainly nothing to do with the fact that it has barely been used for the past 30 years in AIDS research! It has not been used because “They” knew it was not going to show anything of retroviral significance in samples coming directly from AIDS patients. And since AIDS had become big business, the stocks of involved giant pharmaceutical companies could not be jeopardized! It had to be saved at all cost, even at the cost of trusting non specific molecular markers… Fear is good business, and viruses generate fear most efficiently… So, the HIV flag has to be maximally agitated. In worldwide medias, with thousands of computer-generated, colorful caricatures of an idealistic retrovirus… By contrast, the medias have been dominated by the most rigorous censorship when it comes to inform the public about views of rethinking dissidents. This total censorship put a safety lock on any information that could jeopardize the colossal, entirely HIV derived profits of the major pharmaceutical companies.
But I am glad we have Internet!
Daring to say that HIV does not exist amounts to some sort of a capitalistic crime…
Yes, the HIV dogma is probably the darkest page in the history of modern medicine.
CELIA FARBER: Etienne, if you could sum up: Does HIV exist? If so, where and how and as what?
If you could examine 1,000 HIV positive people’s blood under EM, what would you expect to find? If you don’t find HIV on EM in human blood, can any argument be made that the virus is “hiding” and so forth, or that the drugs suppressed the virus to undetectable levels? This is what the defenders of the orthodoxy seem to be saying about the results seen in the Nushawn Williams case.
DE HARVEN: This is the main question! Questioning the very existence of HIV is not something that should be debated only between specialized retro-virologists. It is an essential question that concerns all of us.
CELIA FARBER: Why?
DE HARVEN: Simply because 100% of AIDS research funding is based on the dogmatically postulated existence of HIV. If HIV does not exist, it would follow that AIDS research is the most appalling case of total misappropriation of public research funds! And it would also follow that the monumental amounts of money, so far exclusively devoted to HIV research, would be much better used in other directions. Could you imagine what world we would live in, today, if the total amount of money wasted over the past 30 years on HIV research had been, instead, used for feeding starving Africans, for clean water supply equipment, for public hygiene infrastructures, and for public health education? This would happen only if HIV research is totally stopped! And for this, the scientific and public health organizations have to face the fact that, indeed, HIV does not exist!
…we all have to, courageously, face the fact that the very existence of an exogenous HIV has never been scientifically verified.
—end of interview excerpt—
Again, you can read the whole interview here (https://www.thetruthbarrier.com/2013/06/20/can-electron-microscopy-resolve-the-hiv-battle-an-exclusive-interview-with-em-pioneer-dr-etienne-de-harven/).
De Harven unmasks HIV research. How many other unproven viruses have likewise been prematurely massaged into existence and prominence? How many times have researchers pulled “special markers” like rabbits out of hats—spuriously claiming these markers establish the existence of otherwise never-observed viruses?
And therefore, when these researchers state they have published the genetic sequences of these viruses—what are they really sequencing? Harmless and passive endogenous viruses that wouldn’t hurt a fly and prefer to lie around in the body for the whole course of a lifetime watching television?
And when someone steps forward, and claims a new and never-before-seen virus is actually a manmade weapon, and he knows this from studying its genetic sequence—is he right, or is he looking at the sequence of an irrelevant microbe that has been rudely coaxed from its long languishing snooze in the warmth of the human body?
monty
18th February 2020, 08:06 AM
Back on topic -
Research paper states R0: 4.7-6.6, holy shiite -
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/research-paperthe-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-is-highly-contagious-and-more-infectious-than-initially-estimated-r0-4-7-6-6/
follow the money. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.20021154v1
Funding Statement
SS and RK would like to acknowledge funding from DARPA (HR0011938513). CX acknowledges the support from the Laboratory Directed Research and Development (LDRD) Program at Los Alamos National Laboratory. The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript.
midnight rambler
18th February 2020, 08:29 AM
Incubation period had been determined to be up to 24 days however a couple of cases indicate incubation periods of 34 days and 94 days -
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3050893/coronavirus-death-toll-rises-1770-china-reports-100-new
woodman
18th February 2020, 09:05 AM
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One poster here: https://twitter.com/GGArt91/status/1229392862569213952 , notes that this is fake news, as the trees are in full leaf and of course it is winter in China too.
Neuro
18th February 2020, 10:27 AM
Dachsie (https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ov9jTEmdTUcXuPxYc/source.gif) refers to herself in the third person and is apparently implying that our Neuro is "maybe" engaging in Asian Sex Tourism?
:) fess uo Neuro
Yes well I traveled to Thailand with my wife and 16 year old son. We booked the trip almost a year ago, and yes when reports of this influenza started coming, we did have a discussion re if we were going to go. Thailand having had 20+ infections of something that doesn’t appear much more dangerous than the seasonal flu, seemed like a silly reason to cancel our long planned trip. My idea is that if this is contained as it appears to be in China, it’s not really any problem going anywhere. If it isn’t, it will sooner or later come to where you are. It is also a possibility that it might until next season mutate to something more dangerous and in those cases having had a previous similar infection would most certainly give your immune system a head start in dealing with what comes your way. Finally, yes I am becoming increasingly aware of my own mortality, and my decision is that I am going to live my life to the fullest without unreasonable fears, but I wouldn’t had ventured to Thailand and Cambodia if information suggested that thousands were seriously ill from this in these countries. Just like I wouldn’t go traveling in China at these times.
Yes some of my comments were very strongly tongue in cheek, because I think humor is an excellent way of challenging commonly held ideas and dogmas. For instance I tell my patients who are afraid of my neck adjustments, that I learned them by watching hundreds of hours of Kung Fu movies. Strangely the absurdity of it seems to help people relax.
Neuro
18th February 2020, 10:32 AM
I think this virus came at a very opportune time for the Chinese communist regime. China’s economy is collapsing and now they can blame it on this, not the excesses and corruption of their own governance. They have the perfect excuse to keep people holed up in their homes not doing anything. I think this is the real story here.
Perhaps Corona virus does create some issues, probably a lot of folks are sick and dying from normal seasonal flu that are diagnosed with Corona. And possibly I am wrong. But it looks to me like a fakepedemic.
Jewboo
18th February 2020, 10:34 AM
A GOP senator keeps pushing a thoroughly debunked (https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-bioweapon-tom-cotton-conspiracy-theory-china-warfare-leak-2020-2) theory that the Wuhan coronavirus is a leaked Chinese biological weapon gone wrong
:rolleyes: It's thoroughly debunked you crazy anti-semites!
Neuro
18th February 2020, 10:44 AM
A GOP senator keeps pushing a thoroughly debunked (https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-bioweapon-tom-cotton-conspiracy-theory-china-warfare-leak-2020-2) theory that the Wuhan coronavirus is a leaked Chinese biological weapon gone wrong
:rolleyes: It's thoroughly debunked you crazy anti-semites!
Yes or it was a leaked manufactured virus that wasn’t particularly dangerous that gave the Chinese government the excuse to close down factories that produced goods there is no market for anyway, and if people sit at home being afraid of dying they may love big brother more for doing his outmost in trying to protect them, they would not go out in the streets demonstrating because they were fired or didn’t get a salary.
Jewboo
18th February 2020, 10:52 AM
We booked the trip almost a year ago, and yes when reports of this influenza started coming, we did have a discussion re if we were going to go. Thailand having had 20+ infections of something that doesn’t appear much more dangerous than the seasonal flu, seemed like a silly reason to cancel our long planned trip.
This simple explanation would have been the best. :)
Your theory that China engineered this total economy shutdown only is plausible for Commie China......................what about when it also shuts down our USA economy via the now-broken Supply Chain? :(??
midnight rambler
18th February 2020, 01:29 PM
542 infected with COVID-19 on Corona Princess -
https://recombinomics.co/topic/4820-covid-confirmed-cases-on-diamond-princess-increases-to-542/?tab=comments#comment-16307
midnight rambler
18th February 2020, 01:32 PM
Word from Los Alamos, and they have a pretty good track record with their models, they nailed SARS -
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/los-alamos-experts-warn-covid-19-almost-certainly-cannot-be-contained-project-44-million
Steal
18th February 2020, 04:29 PM
Quarantined use to be allowed 1 family member out once every 7 days. CCP just outlawed even that. I could stay about 15-18 months in my house if had to, though would kind of suck. Would be kind of like being retired with no wheels and no friends.
https://twitter.com/anilvohra69/status/1229547169109049344?s=20
Steal
18th February 2020, 05:04 PM
The Truth About the Coronavirus - ORIGINS?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE-tLNyYVPM
woodman
18th February 2020, 05:35 PM
The Truth About the Coronavirus - ORIGINS?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE-tLNyYVPM
A very good vid.
Neuro
18th February 2020, 05:48 PM
This simple explanation would have been the best. :)
Your theory that China engineered this total economy shutdown only is plausible for Commie China......................what about when it also shuts down our USA economy via the now-broken Supply Chain? :(??
A lot of cash but nothing to buy with it= HYPERINFLATION! It’s important to realize that China supply much more than shitty toys and simple trinkets nowadays. Even if a machine is supplied from somewhere that is not China, most likely it will have parts that are manufactured in China. Of course these parts or even complex machines could also be manufactured elsewhere, but probably will not happen immediately as it takes time and large investments to build capacity. In the west the sentiment among the investors has turned directly against investing in manufacturing the last 30 years, and that sentiment will also take time to change.
So we can expect shortages!
Cebu_4_2
18th February 2020, 05:55 PM
Where is Epstein?
woodman
18th February 2020, 06:38 PM
A lot of cash but nothing to buy with it= HYPERINFLATION! It’s important to realize that China supply much more than shitty toys and simple trinkets nowadays. Even if a machine is supplied from somewhere that is not China, most likely it will have parts that are manufactured in China. Of course these parts or even complex machines could also be manufactured elsewhere, but probably will not happen immediately as it takes time and large investments to build capacity. In the west the sentiment among the investors has turned directly against investing in manufacturing the last 30 years, and that sentiment will also take time to change.
So we can expect shortages!
I can see this and this was my line of thinking. However we must factor in other variables to the equation. There will be shortages of work for those who seek it. Laborers will seek labor and without wages, will not be able to purchase unessentials. Essential items and unessential items will be separated like wheat from the chaff. Any one's guess how this will play out eventually. Inflation and deflation and stagflation. A veritable whirlwind of ations, all battling to find equilibrium.
midnight rambler
18th February 2020, 06:40 PM
So we can expect shortages!
That's an understatement. I see this getting to biblical proportions, I hope I'm wrong.
To quote Ponce:
...and many will die.
Very few outside China get what's going down. China is not turning the corner on this in the foreseeable future meanwhile nothing is getting produced, transported, etc. everything totally shut down except for .gov authorized vehicles (at least in Hubei province*, no telling where else). Even if they immediately went back to work the snafu in production is still going to take years to get back to what can be considered 'normal' by past JIT metrics. And the longer this goes the more magnified it gets. The next 60-90 is the time frame I'm giving before only those living in a cave don't know about "China caught a cold."
*Hubei province is home to 58.5 million people and there is a significant part of China's industry located in Hubei
woodman
18th February 2020, 06:45 PM
A lot of cash but nothing to buy with it= HYPERINFLATION! It’s important to realize that China supply much more than shitty toys and simple trinkets nowadays. Even if a machine is supplied from somewhere that is not China, most likely it will have parts that are manufactured in China. Of course these parts or even complex machines could also be manufactured elsewhere, but probably will not happen immediately as it takes time and large investments to build capacity. In the west the sentiment among the investors has turned directly against investing in manufacturing the last 30 years, and that sentiment will also take time to change.
So we can expect shortages!
Hold on to cash. Hold on to metals. Hold on to tangible items. Keep your credit in good shape. Keep good relations with your neighbors and always keep your long guns handy.
Even more important: Always have a smile for a pretty lady and keep joy in your heart, because life is good and will run out soon enough.
midnight rambler
18th February 2020, 07:25 PM
So we can expect shortages!
It is suggested one develop a checklist of what one may not be able to get in the future, that which is essential to everyday life.
I've over 30 pairs of new shoes in my closet. At the rate they last me I easily have over ten years worth, longer if I were to take better care of them and rotate them. Some I have are still useful at well over one year old. Guess where these shoes were made.
Jewboo
18th February 2020, 08:06 PM
II is suggested one develop a checklist of what one may not be able to get in the future, that which is essential to everyday life.
Best advice in this thread. Most of it did only come from China...
woodman
18th February 2020, 08:10 PM
It is suggested one develop a checklist of what one may not be able to get in the future, that which is essential to everyday life.
I've over 30 pairs of new shoes in my closet. At the rate they last me I easily have over ten years worth, longer if I were to take better care of them and rotate them. Some I have are still useful at well over one year old. Guess where these shoes were made.
Quality shoes are so important. Now days, all shoes seem to be made in China. I have developed plantar fasciitis, which necessitates high quality footwear. I recently gave away all my old boots and shoes, which were all very good quality. They just weren't up to snuff. It may be difficult to get footwear from here on out. I would say to order what you need now, if you anticipate any personal need within the next year. Supply lines will be cut because of this virus.
midnight rambler
18th February 2020, 09:39 PM
Imagine America's children wearing hand-me-down shoes*, so long as they can find them in usable condition.
*I'm sure the other Asian countries with shoe factories will be doing their best to pick up the slack
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/blain-evidence-cracking-global-supply-chains-fast-emerging
Neuro
19th February 2020, 01:05 AM
Quality shoes are so important. Now days, all shoes seem to be made in China. I have developed plantar fasciitis, which necessitates high quality footwear. I recently gave away all my old boots and shoes, which were all very good quality. They just weren't up to snuff. It may be difficult to get footwear from here on out. I would say to order what you need now, if you anticipate any personal need within the next year. Supply lines will be cut because of this virus.
Plantar fasciitis= inflammation of connective tissue under the feet. Very common if you have tensions in the feet from being out of musculoskeletal balance. Go to a good chiropractor who adjust and correct the function of any joint that don’t function properly. Make sure he checks your feet, knees, hips, pelvis and the rest of the spine. If he suggests doing ultrasound and electric therapy, chances are he doesn’t really get it, and prefers to treat your secondary symptoms temporarily, instead of correcting underlying problems. In that case go to a different chiropractor.
aeondaze
19th February 2020, 01:05 AM
Gold is over $1600 and silver is finally on the move, maybe this is what we've all been waiting for...?
Neuro
19th February 2020, 02:00 AM
Gold is over $1600 and silver is finally on the move, maybe this is what we've all been waiting for...?
Wuhuu!
C.Martel
19th February 2020, 07:34 AM
Chinese need some progenitorivox to help them, not to cure them, but to help with the symptoms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgoB2h_Wkco
osoab
19th February 2020, 03:42 PM
Gold is over $1600 and silver is finally on the move, maybe this is what we've all been waiting for...?
Wilver needs to move to 35+ frns to make me look.
midnight rambler
19th February 2020, 04:03 PM
CoVid-19 was remote viewed prior to patient zero, with one remote viewer picking up on it in 2017 -
https://rense.com/general96/three-great-remote-viewers-blind-targeted-with-the-wuhan-coronavirus.php
Horn
19th February 2020, 09:05 PM
For real?
I tried remote viewing once and hyper-extended my neck.
midnight rambler
19th February 2020, 10:18 PM
For real?
I tried remote viewing once and hyper-extended my neck.
Yes for real. You don't know what you don't know.
Actually this video fits perfectly with this thread. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Kupj-c7Tc
midnight rambler
19th February 2020, 10:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=FXelEi4tqAo
Neuro
19th February 2020, 11:42 PM
For real?
I tried remote viewing once and hyper-extended my neck.
I think you’re supposed to use a prism... Or look through a binocular backwards...
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 08:57 AM
We're not hearing much out of China lately, and I do not think this is a case of "no news is good news." No word on resumption of production and 2/20 was the date set for the end of the lockdown and for resumption of normal business in Hubei province by the CCP.
madfranks
20th February 2020, 09:15 AM
I think you’re supposed to use a prism... Or look through a binocular backwards...
If you have the wrong kind of crystal in your pocket it won't work. You need to be holding the crystal in your pants while you do it. :D
PatColo
20th February 2020, 11:28 AM
Max Igan has 4 vids up now analyzing corona. Find all @his YT ch: https://www.youtube.com/user/thecrowhouse/videos
Latest today 28m:
Coronavirus Part 4: Worldwide Pandemic? Or Worldwide Police State? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe271S_2YBE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe271S_2YBE
PatColo
20th February 2020, 11:42 AM
Mike Adams yest:
CONFIRMED: CoVid-19 coronavirus found to contain unique “gain-of-function” property “for efficient spreading in the human population” … exact quote from science paper just published in Antiviral Research (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-19-covid-19-coronavirus-found-to-contain-gain-of-function-for-efficient-spreading-human-population.html)Wednesday, February 19, 2020 by: Mike Adams (https://www.naturalnews.com/author/healthranger)
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 11:50 AM
We're not hearing much out of China lately, and I do not think this is a case of "no news is good news." No word on resumption of production and 2/20 was the date set for the end of the lockdown and for resumption of normal business in Hubei province by the CCP.
Apparently the ChiComs are doing extremely well at not allowing any information out, even by witnesses.
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 12:50 PM
One very pissed off Chinese woman living in Wuhan.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bDB07kSOdx82/
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 01:18 PM
Chinese Doctor on front lines in Wuhan explains what happens physically to patients, it's the full ticket. Yeehaw. His description matches what we're seeing with the infected just dropping dead walking down the street.
Have no idea why the link I post auto-redirects to the entirely wrong video, I've tried four times to post the correct url and the correct url shows up in this post yet that's not where you end up when you click on the link, sooo...got to this page and click on the video entitled 35 days then jump to 19:34 -
https://search.bitchute.com/renderer?query=Uwantsun&use=bitchute-json&name=Search&login=bcadmin&key=7ea2d72b62aa4f762cc5a348ef6642b8&page=2
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 01:38 PM
A whole lot more are infected in the USA than are being reported.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6p7kqLhpPAR4/
Cebu_4_2
20th February 2020, 01:53 PM
Chinese Doctor on front lines in Wuhan explains what happens physically to patients, it's the full ticket. Yeehaw. His description matches what we're seeing with the infected just dropping dead walking down the street.
Jump to 19:34 -
https://www.bitchute.com/video/np21JXmjXRi1/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/bDB07kSOdx82/)
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Cebu_4_2
20th February 2020, 02:04 PM
Sure looks like a lot of dengue fever happening:
http://outbreaks.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
PatColo
20th February 2020, 02:12 PM
CIA/Bezos organ WaPo:
Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-diamond-princess-cruise-americans/2020/02/20/b6f54cae-5279-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html)
February 20, 2020 at 2:17 PM EST
Horn
20th February 2020, 02:18 PM
If you have the wrong kind of crystal in your pocket it won't work. You need to be holding the crystal in your pants while you do it. :D
It takes 2 crystals to do the remote view tango?
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 03:20 PM
Dire straits and getting worse -
https://www.bitchute.com/video/TAI2HFZ0Pgdc/
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 04:22 PM
Forget central control by the CCP, local governments devolve to anarchy, steal medical supplies earmarked for the worst stricken areas, more incredible scenes -
Jump to 15:20 in case you've already seen the interview Steven Bannon did with the Chinese exile
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pWe4JWAkCwGQ/
midnight rambler
20th February 2020, 04:38 PM
Fixt link
Even the link you posted redirects to the wrong video.
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