I need my food stamps!

[osoab]

My six kids need to eat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyrDlObFYoY&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyrDlObFYoY&feature=player_embedded

[Spectrism]

The stupid honkies act like this entitlement mentality is correct.

Who the hell is entitled to pop out 6 babies (and by how many fathers?) and then demand that I feed them? Crash the damned system and let the animals roar.

[solid]

I feel bad for the lady with cancer, who can't get her medications. Some people do actually need help. Other's take advantage of the system because they feel entitled to it. I don't mind my taxes going to the people that actually need it though.

[osoab]

I feel bad for the lady with cancer, who can't get her medications. Some people do actually need help. Other's take advantage of the system because they feel entitled to it. I don't mind my taxes going to the people that actually need it though.


People of all sorts get cancer. I can't feel bad for her unless I know how her life is and has been lived. But hey, she gets free meds.

[Ares]

I feel bad for the lady with cancer, who can't get her medications. Some people do actually need help. Other's take advantage of the system because they feel entitled to it. I don't mind my taxes going to the people that actually need it though.

I do mind, if I want to help someone it should be voluntary. Being forced at the barrel of a gun to help this woman isn't good for any of us.

[Cebu_4_2]

Keep on paying and I'll take as much as I need till I get my ass back in the drivers seat. You have no idea how much it does bother some on stamps, I wish there was an option but where I am located and financially how the banksters are trying to steal my house leaves me with no dry powder to get back.

[Osiris]

That is sad! But what is even more sad is that these people have been taught that they should and can count on the government.

[Shami-Amourae]

I was thinking, we should examine what states have the most and least welfare recipients. In theory, the states with the most welfare recipients will get hit hardest by the collapse since they will be hit with the hordes of zombies.

[solid]

Folks..some people actually do need help.

[Shami-Amourae]

Charity would take the governments place if the government got the fuck out of people's way. You can't justify stealing someones money to give it to someone else by force. That's theft, and completely immoral no matter how much bubbles and sparkles you put around it. Besides, the government makes poverty tolerable for people, and makes it a culture.

[Twisted Titan]

There will no problem when the vermin are told to report to the nearest FEMA chapter for their "benefits"

[Cebu_4_2]

Unfortunately in the world of vermin some have to fend the best way they can. Hunting is out unless you procure licenses to hunt the rabbit that feeds your family but costs more than 10 chickens. Sitting back in the drivers seat requires hundreds in license fees... When you are out of dry powder without the govts gimp hand of unemployment checks which I can not receive I am at a dead lock. If I could sell this shit hole and relocate I could get some powder, but I am not able as they want it all for them selves. I am backed into a corner between a rock and a hardon and if it was a one time deal I would take the hard on... but it is not limited to that, it will go on forever and I am trying to eliminate that part... really man, this sucks ass but I have no corner to turn without a break. And NO food stamps is NOT a break, it is a buffer. I want to get the fvck out of this crap. Was retired 10 years but they took that out of my investments and 401... get another job... LOL mid 50s lookin for a job is like being mid 50s looking for a job. Aint gonna happen.

SOme of my friends out here know, others that joke have no clue.. either way I will get over this Rothchilds demise and house your bitch asses when you flow down the pipe. I wont ask a penny, just clean your room for the next batch.

[madfranks]

That one lady with the bitchy mouth is gonna be in for a rude awakening when those food stamps actually do stop feeding her ungrateful face. What's she gonna do when whitey stops giving her freebies?

[madfranks]

Folks..some people actually do need help.

Solid, you and I (and everyone here) are able to discern those who really need help from those who are scamming the system. Therefore, charity should be left to you and I individually, and we will be certain that our money goes to those who really need it. The gov't, in contrary fashion, wants as many people to be permanently dependent on them as they can, which is why the majority of people in that video could take care of themselves, but won't. They don't actually need any help, and I'm pissed that my kids will be taxed to pay back the money + interest that has been borrowed to feed their fat asses now. How dare they complain about it.

[osoab]

Folks..some people actually do need help.

I can't deny that solid, but do you watch folks that use their bennies? Specifically in ILL it is called the LINK card.

I know a gas station owner who doesn't accept them. When they come in to ask to get a bag of chips and a coke on the card and he tells them that he doesn't accept link, at least half the time they pull out a wad of cash to finally make the purchase.

I saw a chick buy some beenie weenies in a can along with a candybar on her link card one day.

Another guy I know, know the manager a large retailer. As he was waiting in line, there were LINKers in front and behind at the register he was at. The manager just happened to be working that lane. Anyhow once it was his turn to check out, the manager basically took half of his stuff and put it into his cart without scanning and requiring a purchase.

It's the whole attitude. They deserve that. Don't break my eggs, be careful with my fruit. Probably one of the more demanding segments of the population imho.

Then you get puff pieces in the local rags like this one.


(http://www.news-gazette.com/news/politics-and-government/2011-08-13/dont-shred-safety-net-durbin-says.html) Don't shred safety net, Durbin says (http://www.news-gazette.com/news/politics-and-government/2011-08-13/dont-shred-safety-net-durbin-says.html)



URBANA — U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin wants his colleagues on a deficit-reduction "supercommittee" to think of people like Mike Short and Terri Daniels as they debate deep spending cuts in the federal budget.

Illinois' senior senator visited the Eastern Illinois Foodbank in Urbana on Friday to dramatize the need for a federal safety net for the poor, both working and jobless.

Short, 65, who lost his telephone-repair business in 2008, hasn't been able to find another job and is living on Social Security. Daniels, a divorced mom of two, works full-time as an Urbana teacher's aide but has to use government food assistance and health insurance to make ends meet.

"More than half the families in America are living paycheck to paycheck," Durbin said, citing a study that showed half of American families could not come up with $2,000 cash within 30 days.

But in Washington, every debate starts with the words "cut spending," said Durbin, who served on President Obama's fiscal reform commission and was among the "Gang of Six" who crafted an alternative proposal to cut the nation's debt in recent budget negotiations.

Durbin said he understands the need to straighten out the federal budget to sustain growth. But Congress has to protect the most vulnerable Americans, including people who have lost jobs, have mental illness or other health issues.

"I'm concerned that we don't go too far in cutting the safety net for families in America as we look for ways to cut spending," Durbin said, including food stamps and government commodity programs that supply food banks nationwide.

Durbin said the congressional supercommittee asked to identify more than $1 trillion in spending cuts over the next decade includes "good people," but their success will depend on their ability to work together, compromise and re-evaluate some "long-held beliefs."

Looming over the panel is a Nov. 23 deadline that will trigger automatic cuts in entitlement programs and military spending if they fail to reach an agreement.
If they walk in with positions that are non-negotiable, "it's gonna fail," he said.
"The only honest way to deal with this is to put everything on the table, including revenue," Durbin said. "The wealthiest, most affluent families in America should be asked to sacrifice, like everybody else."

Durbin argued against cuts in Medicaid, the government-funded insurance for the poor, because it covers "the most vulnerable people in America," including 52 percent of American children. He said there are ways to carefully cut Medicare costs, but emphasized that the coverage is vital for 40 million American seniors.

Asked what he would cut, Durbin said he supported reductions to several programs he has backed in the past, including subsidies for the ethanol industry and small airports. It's time to be "brutally honest" about what the country can afford, including on military spending, he said.

"We have a tax code that's indefensible," he added, with billions of dollars in tax breaks that help wealthy Americans avoid paying taxes. "That is as bad as any earmarked program that they criticize."

James Hires, executive director of the Eastern Illinois Foodbank, said his agency relies heavily on volunteers to distribute food to 47,000 people a month — double the number from 2004 — but federal support "makes the difference."

The food bank received 1.8 million pounds of food through the Department of Agriculture's commodities program last year, but that amount will drop back to 2007 levels, 600,000 pounds, this year with the end of the economic stimulus. Likewise, funding for the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (food stamps) has dropped and could be targeted again in budget cuts, Durbin said.
Hires said every $1 spent through SNAP generates $1.73 for the local economy.

As a veteran with a degree and full-time job, Daniels said she never thought she'd be eligible for SNAP benefits. She found out about it while volunteering at her church, and once she qualified, the first thing she did was buy a cart full of fresh fruits and vegetables.

She loves her job because the hours allow her to be with her kids after school and avoid child-care costs, but it barely pays enough to cover food, utilities and taxes. She has no debt, and only plans to stay on government benefits until her kids are older and she can work more hours.

"It's just the season of life we're in," she said, adding "I can see the future for us."

Short and his wife, a former medical transcriptionist, both lost their jobs in 2008. They used up their savings, declared bankruptcy, and are now surviving on $1,500 a month in Social Security benefits.

He visits the St. Vincent DePaul food pantry every other week, and said the first time he went he "was so self-conscious. I felt like I don't deserve it. I wasn't raised this way, to depend on others. I was raised to take care of myself."
He estimates he and his wife applied for 200 to 300 jobs, with no luck.

"These are not people who want to be dependent," Durbin said.

Also Friday, Durbin called on Syrian leader Hafez Assad to step down, citing his "reign of terror" against his own people. "He needs to go."


Side note. Syria is the next place for war imo.

[osoab]

That one lady with the bitchy mouth is gonna be in for a rude awakening when those food stamps actually do stop feeding her ungrateful face. What's she gonna do when whitey stops giving her freebies?


"My six kids gotto eats. I got number seven in the oven, I gotts to eat. I just yank your shit to get my eats!"

[Spectrism]

Its these permanent useless eaters who are the real scream. They were on "entitlements" since they were born and now they do their mamas proud popping out many new feeders on the same entitlement programs. They would also do their paps proud, if they knew who they were. They are breeding like vermin given all they need to reproduce, and being required to produce nothing. They are even encouraged to reproduce under this system with more bennies. Pop out another feeder and get a raise. Their re-production of new feeders is viewed by them as their work and benefit provided to society. That crap has to stop. And it will be violent when it does.

[Twisted Titan]

When the hammer falls in this country and we go to full fledge 3rd world status

The one with the brood of six will be singing a different tune because 5 were taken out by disease,starvation or warfare she will b greatfulvfor it like it was manna falling from heaven

[solid]

Solid, you and I (and everyone here) are able to discern those who really need help from those who are scamming the system. Therefore, charity should be left to you and I individually, and we will be certain that our money goes to those who really need it. The gov't, in contrary fashion, wants as many people to be permanently dependent on them as they can, which is why the majority of people in that video could take care of themselves, but won't. They don't actually need any help, and I'm pissed that my kids will be taxed to pay back the money + interest that has been borrowed to feed their fat asses now. How dare they complain about it.

You are right, Madfranks. Instead of gov programs that easily allow folks to cheat and scam the system, there should be more private charities and non profit organizations. Around here, there's a St. Vincent DePaul society that serves hot meals to the homeless every day. Actually anyone who's hungry can get a hot meal. This is all from donations.

If they did away with all the entitlement programs from the government, it would give each of us more of our money, saved from taxes, to give to these organizations that we choose. It would be tough in the beginning, but more and more of these groups would start up. It would give us all a chance to willing help each other by choice. It would also encourage those in need to take steps to better their lives, instead of just leeching off the system. It would kill entitlement, and help encourage those being helped to be grateful for that help as well.

To bad the government doesn't have enough faith in the people, to let that happen though.

[solid]

really man, this sucks ass but I have no corner to turn without a break. And NO food stamps is NOT a break, it is a buffer. I want to get the fvck out of this crap. Was retired 10 years but they took that out of my investments and 401... get another job... LOL mid 50s lookin for a job is like being mid 50s looking for a job. Aint gonna happen.
.

Cebu, I was going back and forth on whether to post this story, but I read your post and thought I'd throw this out for folks to read about...

Next to my marina, is a boatyard that hauls out boats, for repairs, etc. I know the owner,real nice man who's always working his ass off to help other people. Well there's one boat in the yard that's been there for about a month. A very traditional looking 30 foot sailboat. Every day I walk by this boat and see a young guy working away on it. Slowly this boat is transforming into just a beautiful sailboat. The young guy bought this boat for $1. $1, and this kid has a home, and all the freedoms that the ocean's can offer, and a world out there at his fingertips to explore. The kid doesn't have employment, probably doesn't have much money...but he does have work. He works on his boat. He's got a goal.

I like this story because it's out of the box thinking.

In this economy,there's a lot of old boats that are basically being given away. All it takes is the drive and courage to joining the boating community, some knowledge as well, but that can be learned over time. A handy person can always find work as well. If I was unemployed, I'd be working tomorrow on people's boats, being paid under the table. There's a large barter economy going. Most sailors are an odd bunch and dislike/distrust the system, so we all fit in anyway.

[madfranks]

You are right, Madfranks. Instead of gov programs that easily allow folks to cheat and scam the system, there should be more private charities and non profit organizations. Around here, there's a St. Vincent DePaul society that serves hot meals to the homeless every day. Actually anyone who's hungry can get a hot meal. This is all from donations.

If they did away with all the entitlement programs from the government, it would give each of us more of our money, saved from taxes, to give to these organizations that we choose. It would be tough in the beginning, but more and more of these groups would start up. It would give us all a chance to willing help each other by choice. It would also encourage those in need to take steps to better their lives, instead of just leeching off the system. It would kill entitlement, and help encourage those being helped to be grateful for that help as well.

To bad the government doesn't have enough faith in the people, to let that happen though.

Good post, solid, although I disagree with your last sentence, because it's not that the gov't doesn't have faith in the people, it's that they don't want to lose control over those who they give our money to.

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

check out THIS pos...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8q38hxYI1E

[po boy]

check out THIS pos...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8q38hxYI1E

So the .gov collection agent takes half his 2mil and he gets back how much in fs, and we should feel bad why?

I could care less.

[Ash_Williams]

I like his style.

Everyone will say that food stamps are for those who need them to eat. Well, wakeup call, before he won the 2 million he clearly had enough extra cash to buy lottery tickets all the time, that tells me he wasn't struggling to eat in the first place.

So it's fine to game the system without paying anything into it, but after you've paid a million bucks, now it's immoral...

[midnight rambler]

Folks..some people actually do need help.

Kindly show me where it's the government's job to provide that 'help'. TIA

[Spectrism]

I think you folks are missing an important point. If there is a food stamps program (and there is), why are we letting the government determine who is eligible? Why are we not all eligible?

Think about this.

Why should the government take (at gun point) money from some and give it to a select group of others?

Cebu- take as much as the bastards will let you!

The program is corrupt, and it should be abolished. While it is stealing from the producers, any who can will grab the rewards. The government has no right to steal that money in the first place. So we attack big mama for demanding the government with our stolen earnings, feed her multiplying numbers? No. It is the damned government bureaucrats and spineless politicians who have no principles who are doing this.

[Cebu_4_2]

I get a little assistance each month, trying to qualify for something like this is not an easy task at all... unless you know the ropes. In the waiting room, (think snowflake in a charcoal pile) you can observe many people, one thing that stood out to me was brand new baggy pants, every cell phone that rang played rap and looked to me like brand new (my cell is almost 10). Poor folks even had to drive new Escalade's and Cadillac's while I pimped in with my 17 year old car. I had to produce no less than 100 pages of information while others showed just a couple pages.

Corrupt system is right, absolutely. The requirements to get stamps is adequate, the interviewers however seem to pick and choose who they think should get help and who to deny.

PS if there was a boat marina even somewhat close I would have been there a long time ago. I reside in the sticks with my business at home, I just found out I got a 6 month extension to eviction so my job this week will be advertising since I know I will be here next month.

[madfranks]

I get a little assistance each month, trying to qualify for something like this is not an easy task at all... unless you know the ropes.

Unless you know the ropes = unless you're black.

[Cebu_4_2]

Unless you know the ropes = unless you're black.

That about sums things up pretty well. Out of the hundred or so in the waiting area I saw 2 other white people, one was clearly disabled and the other was a female wigger... tattoos and piercings that probably cost as much as my lawyers.

[osoab]

You need the right credentials to get fast tracked into the welfare system.


#1 Tits
#2 Kids

You forgot skin color.

[solid]

You forgot skin color.

You also forgot the most important credential, an entitlement mentality. Need that entitlement, it's a right, it's deserved...not a helping hand!

[Cebu_4_2]

It's like a social event in there and I am not kidding. Everyone seems to know everyone else, I just feel like a complete asshole in there and want to hide my face while the celebrating goes on.

[dys]

Dissenting opinion coming. A couple relevant points:

1. From the standpoint of cost, the foodstamps program is close to a non issue. Compare the cost of the foodstamp program with the cost of the bailout, for instance. The enmity directed at people that receive these entitlements is inordinate.
2. In the micro, most of these people can be appropriately criticized. But in the macro, the system is set up in such a way that a certain percentage of people will not be able to feed themselves, regardless of what they do or don't do. There are not enough jobs to go around...many reasons for this, I won't rehash the proximate causes that most of us are well aware of.

Bottom line: Because our system is largely based on constructive fraud and graft, I don't think it's right to hold the system's casualites fully accountable for their predicament.

dys

[osoab]

Dissenting opinion coming. A couple relevant points:

1. From the standpoint of cost, the foodstamps program is close to a non issue. Compare the cost of the foodstamp program with the cost of the bailout, for instance. The enmity directed at people that receive these entitlements is inordinate.
2. In the micro, most of these people can be appropriately criticized. But in the macro, the system is set up in such a way that a certain percentage of people will not be able to feed themselves, regardless of what they do or don't do. There are not enough jobs to go around...many reasons for this, I won't rehash the proximate causes that most of us are well aware of.

Bottom line: Because our system is largely based on constructive fraud and graft, I don't think it's right to hold the system's casualites fully accountable for their predicament.

dys

How can being forced with a gun (eventually) to pay up in taxes to support those that don't/won't fend for themselvese. Cebu42's case and others like him are exceptions.

I can't consider falling through the cracks as an excuse if it IS pervasive through generations.

[dys]

How can being forced with a gun (eventually) to pay up in taxes to support those that don't/won't fend for themselvese. Cebu42's case and others like him are exceptions.

I can't consider falling through the cracks as an excuse if it IS pervasive through generations.

Well I don't believe that you are forced as you say to to pay for other people, that's the first thing. All governments are filthy rich corporations with more than sufficient revenue outside of taxes that can be used to fund these types of programs.

dys

[Spectrism]

dys- you are not providing a dissenting opinion, but a disjointed one.

The principle stands whether small stealing or large stealing. Those with the entitlement mentality are growing in number. These are the enablers of government as they legitimize government and receive the benefits of their poor choices. In a land of a government by the people where the majority of those people are uninformed and corrupt, we are bound to have a government that is corrupt. So, where do you start? If government is enabled by an evil populace, an evil government is only fitting.

Our government has caused a crisis to occur. They sent manufacturing over seas. They increased frivolous spending and created a suffocating debt. They favored those who could provide financial payoffs. The disaster looming should be visited upon those elected officials who followed greed rather than righteous service. And those who think they deserve free handlouts by forcing others to pay for them, will need to face a new education. I suspect government will provide that education in FEMA camps.

Oh... and what source of income does our government have outside of its cruel power to tax with deadly force to back it up?

[dys]

dys- you are not providing a dissenting opinion, but a disjointed one.

The principle stands whether small stealing or large stealing. Those with the entitlement mentality are growing in number. These are the enablers of government as they legitimize government and receive the benefits of their poor choices. In a land of a government by the people where the majority of those people are uninformed and corrupt, we are bound to have a government that is corrupt. So, where do you start? If government is enabled by an evil populace, an evil government is only fitting.

Our government has caused a crisis to occur. They sent manufacturing over seas. They increased frivolous spending and created a suffocating debt. They favored those who could provide financial payoffs. The disaster looming should be visited upon those elected officials who followed greed rather than righteous service. And those who think they deserve free handlouts by forcing others to pay for them, will need to face a new education. I suspect government will provide that education in FEMA camps.

Oh... and what source of income does our government have outside of its cruel power to tax with deadly force to back it up?

The government has investments. See this thread: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?44790-Documentary-The-Corporation-Nation&highlight=corporation+nation

Also, 'entitlement mentality' is often the result when people have all of their options and prospects stolen away from them.

dys

[osoab]

Also, 'entitlement mentality' is often the result when people have all of their options and prospects stolen away from them.

dys

You really need to get out and mingle a little more dys. It is a gimme mentality.

[Ash_Williams]

I get a little assistance each month, trying to qualify for something like this is not an easy task at all... unless you know the ropes. In the waiting room, (think snowflake in a charcoal pile) you can observe many people, one thing that stood out to me was brand new baggy pants, every cell phone that rang played rap and looked to me like brand new (my cell is almost 10). Poor folks even had to drive new Escalade's and Cadillac's while I pimped in with my 17 year old car. I had to produce no less than 100 pages of information while others showed just a couple pages.

Well those people proved that they can't control their spending, so naturally they are broke and qualify.
You, on the other hand, displayed some level of responsibility, so they had a harder time thinking you'd be broke.
You need to show up in gold chains next time and scratch a bunch of lottery tickets while standing in line.


Also, 'entitlement mentality' is often the result when people have all of their options and prospects stolen away from them.

I don't believe that. These people are different from the get-go. If I lost everything, I still wouldn't sit my ass down on the front porch the entire day with a beer in one hand and a smoke in the other. I wouldn't leave 5 shopping carts on my front lawn instead of taking them back for the quarters. I wouldn't leave beer bottles and beer cans all of the f-ing neighborhood (especially when there's a 10 cent deposit on them). I wouldn't cover myself in tattoos and stick metal in my face and screw every fat chick I could find. I wouldn't smash the glass at my bus stop every week or spraypaint all the mailboxes.

I was broke once and I didn't do any of those things. The welfare neighborhood was a source of funds for me on more than one occasion, you could go in there and collect bottles and things to to get a few bucks for dinner. Those people are too good to work for a couple bucks, they leave that up to the taxpayers. A few bucks isn't enough to buy weed anyway. You can't talk to them about anything because they understand nothing and are proud of it. They are truly a different species. Not all but many... maybe most.. are born lazy and stupid. I won't feel bad when their species goes extinct. They don't want options or prospects, they just want to sit in front of their 55" tv and smoke and drink and wait for their food stamps. The more you interact with them the more you hate them.

[sirgonzo420]

Well those people proved that they can't control their spending, so naturally they are broke and qualify.
You, on the other hand, displayed some level of responsibility, so they had a harder time thinking you'd be broke.
You need to show up in gold chains next time and scratch a bunch of lottery tickets while standing in line.



I don't believe that. These people are different from the get-go. If I lost everything, I still wouldn't sit my ass down on the front porch the entire day with a beer in one hand and a smoke in the other. I wouldn't leave 5 shopping carts on my front lawn instead of taking them back for the quarters. I wouldn't leave beer bottles and beer cans all of the f-ing neighborhood (especially when there's a 10 cent deposit on them). I wouldn't cover myself in tattoos and stick metal in my face and screw every fat chick I could find. I wouldn't smash the glass at my bus stop every week or spraypaint all the mailboxes.

I was broke once and I didn't do any of those things. The welfare neighborhood was a source of funds for me on more than one occasion, you could go in there and collect bottles and things to to get a few bucks for dinner. Those people are too good to work for a couple bucks, they leave that up to the taxpayers. A few bucks isn't enough to buy weed anyway. You can't talk to them about anything because they understand nothing and are proud of it. They are truly a different species. Not all but many... maybe most.. are born lazy and stupid. I won't feel bad when their species goes extinct. They don't want options or prospects, they just want to sit in front of their 55" tv and smoke and drink and wait for their food stamps. The more you interact with them the more you hate them.


Don't hold back, Ash; tell us what you *really* think!


;D

[po boy]

I find it interesting that people on food stamps are often viewed as lazy and unemployed when little is mentioned about large corporations benefiting from these programs by paying workers low wages.

These companies would be forced to pay more for help if it were not for FS MC and MC.

[solidus]

Welfare has little to do with the recipients and much to do with those directing the funds. I think I can coin the term "vote farming". Plant the little seeds of dependence and reap the benefits at the ballot box. There is no easier way to get elected than to harvest votes from those who have become dependent on the largesse of government. There is nothing more cynical than to doom these people to the worst aspects of human nature for their own political benefit. This explains why many on the left hate America's traditions of rugged self reliance. A return to something as ridiculous as that would destroy the "crop".